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A fun line from the Observer, "Octagon has claimed that he was won the exclusive rights to the name Octagon through the IMPI trademark service. Still, the IMPI web site lists AAA as owning the trademark to the Octagon name for pro wrestling. Octagon claimed that anyone not approved by him to use names like Octagon Jr., El Hijo del Octagon or Octagoncito will be jailed. Somehow I don’t think anyone is going to jail for that."
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# ? Jan 10, 2020 22:40 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2024 01:49 |
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Big fan of Jim's gift to Bryan.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 03:34 |
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MJeff posted:Big fan of Jim's gift to Bryan. Bryan declaring he's going to make the ears pop every time Ryan (from Cumberland, Maryland) calls
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 06:22 |
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Dave posted:Punk then, on Twitter, wrote, “Go suck a blood money covered dick in Saudi Arabia you f***ing dork.” Later Punk realized that wasn’t to be viewed well and deleted it. Luckily for him, he’s not a guy on the Jim Cornette list when it comes to enemies. Dave thinks that people only disliked Cornette's racism because they view him as an enemy. Dave is not an ally, yo.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 07:02 |
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Yeah, I kind of assume Dave means Punk has more good will then Cornette has but Dave is ignoring the vast difference between their statements. Dave is not an ally.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 07:07 |
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:Dave thinks that people only disliked Cornette's racism because they view him as an enemy. I'm not defending I'm just looking for clarification. I thought Dave meant Cornette had enemies backstage looking for an excuse, not just like, people in general. Did I interpret that wrong?
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 07:09 |
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TheKingslayer posted:I'm not defending I'm just looking for clarification. I took it to be a mix of both, because Cornette has alienated both a good portion of the general public and just about everybody who has ever employed him.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 07:12 |
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TheKingslayer posted:I'm not defending I'm just looking for clarification. No, I think your interpretation is right but it feels like a disingenuous way to frame it. Like, Punk will probably avoid any punishment or outcry because he doesn't have enemies backstage and generally has public good will. Cornette makes enemies and has very little public good will. But those enemies are not why Cornette saw backlash for his comments. I also don't really even see what these situations have in common besides person said a controversial thing but the things they said have a wide gulf between them.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 07:16 |
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I think it's also a wild stretch to think that Punk himself, personally, without influence, felt that the tweet "wasn't to be viewed well." That's someone talking to Dave covering a bunch of asses and him just typing it as is.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 07:20 |
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Randy Orton literally said the n word and not a peep was heard.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 07:28 |
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There's a part that was left off at the end of Dave's bit where he compares Punk's comments being homophobic to Cornette's racism, I guess he's saying that because Cornette has more enemies he got cancelled whereas Punk probably won't, but Punk has a history of saying poo poo that is offensive in ways he's probably too dumb to understand.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 07:38 |
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Did an interview with George W Bushi aout his live experience at WrestleKingdom and New Year's Dash. We also talked some Stardom! It was fun, check it out! https://rudospodcast.co/episode-26-wrestlekingdom-live-report/
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 08:07 |
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Seams posted:Randy Orton literally said the n word and not a peep was heard. And even if it were, what would your point be, exactly? Bad things are bad no matter how much press they get, and Dave's contention that things don't matter if nobody notices is demonstrative of his mindset in a big bad way.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 08:14 |
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Got to the best of 2019 and there is not nearly enough Don Valentine NWA chat including matches with Rick Steiner and Dr Death Steve Williams
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 08:53 |
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:Dave thinks that people only disliked Cornette's racism because they view him as an enemy. I found it doubly galling because Cornette seems to say something like "suck a dick", "suck my dick" or "buuuuuuuhhhhhlow me" every single episode. So, if Punk is "getting away" with this, he's literally getting away with doing the exact same thing that Cornette gets away with doing twice a week. I used to excuse Dave in my mind as a clueless old milquetoast liberal. Being the Cornette defense squad along with his comments on ACH have both greatly changed my take on him.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 09:01 |
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:That's not even kind of true. Just that there was a difference between the level of condemnation of Orton compared to Cornette. I don't think either comment was good or that Cornette should've gotten away with it or anything like that.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 09:15 |
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Pinche Rudo posted:Did an interview with George W Bushi aout his live experience at WrestleKingdom and New Year's Dash. We also talked some Stardom! It was fun, check it out! https://rudospodcast.co/episode-26-wrestlekingdom-live-report/ I listened to this earlier and was going "hm, this dude's voice reminds me of someone, no idea who, oh well" but of course it's the GWB himself! I'm dumb and wasn't able to connect the dots
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 09:40 |
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Gumball Gumption posted:Cornette makes enemies and has very little public good will. But those enemies are not why Cornette saw backlash for his comments. The people who helped cancel him would know, wouldn't they? MassRafTer posted:I'm sure some people don't like the idea of Dave saying part of this is Cornette being divisive and having enemies but within 5 minutes of the tweet going up with the video people were @ing and DMing me about it to cancel Cornette. Cancel culture is real, and it's real good. (Wolf Howl)
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 10:02 |
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Dave physically can't stop himself from defending Cornette and it's fuckin' bizarre
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 17:41 |
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Dave physically can't stop himself from defending Cornette and it's fuckin' bizarre Boomers love to circle the wagons and defend their white fragility
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 17:45 |
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:Dave thinks that people only disliked Cornette's racism because they view him as an enemy. Punk has a long history of making homophobic jokes and comments and will never face consequences for them. If people like someone and they are popular they will get more chances than if someone is despised. For example, in PA Joe Paterno's favorability rating in 2016 was 49% positive to 29% negative. Penn State honored him in 2016, a student who spoke out against his legacy was slammed with hate mail. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jan 11, 2020 |
# ? Jan 11, 2020 18:00 |
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Dave Meltzer is not your friend
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 18:30 |
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shave seltzer on the other hand...
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 18:32 |
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Half an hour of Pampero Firpo talk starting at 1:06 on the latest WOR including Dave telling a story about embarrassing himself in front of Pampero and 5 minutes of Jack Dempsey vs Luis Firpo chat.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 19:31 |
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Hulk Hogan got a heroes welcome when he returned and Hollywood couldn't wait to let Mel Gibson back in.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 20:09 |
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Lmao at Valley trying to get Dave to take a pause to cough The steamroller stops for nothing
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 22:09 |
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Low Desert Punk posted:Lmao at Valley trying to get Dave to take a pause to cough You would think Jim would have realized this by now but nope he falls into the trap everytime.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 22:21 |
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Countdown until Dave does it again and completely apologists for Tessa Blanchard as hes been singing her praises forever, Tully is an old friend, and "its not a big deal" jealousy.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 22:27 |
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hunnert car pileup fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Jan 14, 2020 |
# ? Jan 11, 2020 22:27 |
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Darby is on the latest Talk is Jericho, you should listen.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 22:28 |
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Low Desert Punk posted:Lmao at Valley trying to get Dave to take a pause to cough I loved this so much. Jim's gentle,"Take a pause..." and Dave just hacking his way through anyway
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 01:07 |
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MassRafTer posted:Darby is on the latest Talk is Jericho, you should listen. Heard he went in on Gabe, excited to check it out
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 02:34 |
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I know I say it a lot, but god drat is Jim Valley a good host. His long digression on WOL today "Because of the fans" ending with the Law & Order theme music playing him into the break was just a joy to listen to.MassRafTer posted:Darby is on the latest Talk is Jericho, you should listen. Jericho: You were signed to a contract with Evolve, what does that entail? Darby: Being a moron. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Jan 12, 2020 |
# ? Jan 12, 2020 02:47 |
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When I was at the Chicago meet & greet, I was disappointed it was Jim Valley because I hadn't listened to any of his stuff yet so I didn't say anything to him. Not even six months later, and I'm regretful.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 03:09 |
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I've said this before but it's so funny that Jim Valley's first run in the business was as the business partner and co-commentator with pre fame Jonny Fairplay for a post modern indie they ran.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 03:14 |
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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1215924654675656705
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 03:46 |
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Oliver Garden will be the next big NXT signing.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 04:01 |
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Get your Dave praise in now before the next WOR comes out and he covers the cancellation of Tessa Blanchard.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 06:09 |
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Kenny Oliver-Garden
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 06:13 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2024 01:49 |
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Hopefully eventually Dave realizes that defending old racist pieces of poo poo isn't the business model he should follow I mean I know it's making WWE record amounts of profit but
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 06:36 |