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Darth Walrus posted:Yeah, Whedon's work isn't something you can really go back to once you get where he's coming from with his female characters. Way too much weird and uncomfortable there. I don't like the way he writes dialogue because its infected everything. Bioware went from BG2 to making glorified pansexual dating simulators. Whedonism was part of this rot. Still don't care if some of his weird peccadilloes made it into his work. Who cares. Do we want the edges sanded down on every bit of media we consume.
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Alertrelic posted:Bioware went from BG2 to making glorified pansexual dating simulators. Whedonism was part of this rot. What the gently caress is this post.
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Well.... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/11/iran-admits-shooting-down-ukrainian-airliner-unintentionally
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Jippa posted:Well.... The most probable cause. I guess Iran can never evoke that plane the US shot down ever again. On the other hand this has been thrown some cold water on the whole US-Iran war thing.
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sebzilla posted:It belongs in a museum! 
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Fumble posted:Dont forget the fuckdoll assasin show. I always associate the "free from all artificial additives" poo poo with the early 90s when everyone was going on about that Europe and their E-numbers and it should be banned, but things like this remind me of the 80s when parents would blame the tarter zines for making their kids hyperactive rather than the kids being under-stimulated or possibly having ADHD. Anyway that lot should be happy that we're going to get some nice natural ingredients like e. coli in our food soon.  
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Jan 11, 2020 12:27
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Amazing. This find has also unlocked a universal truth... https://twitter.com/Moledozer/status/1215914712862543872?s=19
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jacksbrat posted:Amazing. Green: Cheese and Onion Light blue: Salt and Vinegar Dark blue: 
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Jan 11, 2020 12:41
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Spring onions are green, salt is from the sea which is blue. QED
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actually yellow is cheese and onion because cheese is yellow
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Jan 11, 2020 13:00
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https://twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1215637479614795777 Rayner is really cleaning up on nominations for Deputy. And anyone asking in the replies "Hey, can you maybe ask anyone else looking to nominate you to nominate Dawn or Burgon now you have three times the number needed?" is being blocked, which is a poor look.
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Yes. I've gone from worrying about people not endorsing her to worrying about the PLP endorsing her. But RLB still wants her as deputy so I suppose she must be reasonably sound.
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Ratjaculation posted:its not as good as the mandalorian but the mandalorian is also bad
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seizure later posted:but the mandalorian is also bad This is a bad post. Try again.
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Guavanaut posted:Kathleen Richardson's blog? This was also due to the US vs EU, the EU trying to ban cancer causing ingredients that the US happily doesn't care about (and still uses). I can see this coming back into the media in the near future, when someone points out the new trade deal foods are full of early death.
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Julio Cruz posted:the only good thing Joss Whedon's ever done is The Cabin in the Woods don't @ me Cabin in the Woods is very good I agree. Joss Whedon gets a tonne of good press and he's made quite a lot of bad things better, but I don't know that he's made any original stuff that's good in the last twenty-odd years, except CitW.
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Haven't seen The Mandalorian, but I'm willing to give anything touched by Taika Waititi a chance; Jojo Rabbit is extremely good and touching and y'all should go see it.
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happyhippy posted:This was also due to the US vs EU, the EU trying to ban cancer causing ingredients that the US happily doesn't care about (and still uses). Still, we won't be getting any of the bad E-numbers any more, because they'll just put the ingredient name.
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I'm finding it difficult to muster much enthusiasm about any of the leadership candidates. I don't want to see the party lurch back to the centre but I feel we have to acknowledge that there are people who need to be won back over and the "continuity Corbyn" tag is already hurting RLB with those people. Maybe in 5 years she can move out of Corbyn's shadow, but if it's going to be 5 more years of sniping and rebellions, it's exhausting. If Starmer can stick to the leftist principles he's been touting then maybe he could do a "reverse Blair" and get the centrists on side with a progressive agenda, but it's difficult to tell where he's really going to land and I don't think he has the right image. So right now I'm just ABP
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Guavanaut posted:With the bizarre exception of cyclamate, which is banned for causing cancer in the US (despite no evidence) but is popular in Spain and Germany (and the superior sweetener). Unless, of course, they want to sell stuff in the EU but I can't imagine why anyone would want to sell anything to those people.
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Barry Shitpeas posted:I'm finding it difficult to muster much enthusiasm about any of the leadership candidates. I don't want to see the party lurch back to the centre but I feel we have to acknowledge that there are people who need to be won back over and the "continuity Corbyn" tag is already hurting RLB with those people. Maybe in 5 years she can move out of Corbyn's shadow, but if it's going to be 5 more years of sniping and rebellions, it's exhausting. If Starmer can stick to the leftist principles he's been touting then maybe he could do a "reverse Blair" and get the centrists on side with a progressive agenda, but it's difficult to tell where he's really going to land and I don't think he has the right image. So right now I'm just ABP If socialism was the right path 5 years ago, 4 years ago, 6 months ago, it's still the right thing today and will still be the right thing in 5 years time.
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electing starmer will mean the end of the party, electing rlb will probably not, whether you believe the institution to be worth saving is mostly the question because in the next ten years we're not going to see a return to neoliberal 'centrism', we're going to see the emergence of some sort of 'left' eco fascism vs actual fascism as a combination of climate change, a fascist international and the EU imploding entirely because of export surplus rules and i doubt any of the options will be good or even approaching not terrible
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Barry Shitpeas posted:I'm finding it difficult to muster much enthusiasm about any of the leadership candidates. I don't want to see the party lurch back to the centre but I feel we have to acknowledge that there are people who need to be won back over and the "continuity Corbyn" tag is already hurting RLB with those people. Maybe in 5 years she can move out of Corbyn's shadow, but if it's going to be 5 more years of sniping and rebellions, it's exhausting. If Starmer can stick to the leftist principles he's been touting then maybe he could do a "reverse Blair" and get the centrists on side with a progressive agenda, but it's difficult to tell where he's really going to land and I don't think he has the right image. So right now I'm just ABP Whoever wins will end up tagged with some spurious bullshit that sounds bad to the average Sun and Mail reader, even if they're the most bootlicking centrist imaginable.
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why on earth would mr remain help regain the heartlands. he’ll be tarred with that brush forever
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thespaceinvader posted:Whoever wins will end up tagged with some spurious bullshit that sounds bad to the average Sun and Mail reader, even if they're the most bootlicking centrist imaginable. *Ed Miliband voice* I have no idea what you could mean. *eats sandwich* *be's Jewish*
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If someone was to actually be a "serious" centrist they would understand that constantly moving right isn't actually centrist at all, and would also try to move left. I've never seen a "serious centrist" like that but I'm open to being surprised.
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CoolCab posted:why on earth would mr remain help regain the heartlands. he’ll be tarred with that brush forever I mean this is partly what I mean when I say he has the wrong image (plus he's another white man, big shot lawyer, a literal Sir) I guess what I'm getting at is that "Corbynism" has been largely (wrongly) portrayed as a personality cult. It's not particularly associated with any specific policies beyond memes like "free broadband lol". RLB is going to be labelled as a Corbynist largely irrespective of her policies, whereas a hypothetical candidate that was not so closely associated with Corbyn could espouse many of the same policies (which are generally popular) without the baggage of "Corbynism". thespaceinvader posted:Whoever wins will end up tagged with some spurious bullshit that sounds bad to the average Sun and Mail reader, even if they're the most bootlicking centrist imaginable. I mean, this is true to an extent, and one major thing that Blair apologists seem to miss is that no way would he have the support of the Murdoch press in the current climate. But I think we have to admit that it stuck to Corbyn more than most, and we can't just treat it as background noise when by all accounts it was a large part of the defeat. But I think RLB should be less vulnerable than him in this regard, even if ultimately that just means she doesn't have the years of left-wing activist cred that he does.
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Yeah, to be honest I think Keir Starmer wouldn’t necessarily be a bad leader, easily the best of the centrists, we could do much worse. But I think the main disqualifying factors are that he’s a remainey Londoner rather than any other actual political positions he holds.
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happyhippy posted:I detest Buffy. I also thought it was silly but I wonder if it's a cultural thing given that in this country for the same age range you have like... Grange Hill :/ I felt the same way about the likes of Six Feet Under and Desperate Housewives at a later age. Just too silly
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Alertrelic posted:I don't like the way he writes dialogue because its infected everything. Bioware went from BG2 to making glorified pansexual dating simulators. Whedonism was part of this rot.
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Alertrelic posted:Bioware went from BG2 to making glorified pansexual dating simulators Yikes, might want to cut down on the implied homophobia there bud
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crispix posted:I also thought it was silly but I wonder if it's a cultural thing given that in this country for the same age range you have like... Grange Hill :/ You could be onto something here. Grange Hill, Byker Grove, out the same time as such poo poo as Saved By The Bell. Gritty real life events like poverty and disabilities (oh noes PJ is now blind!), versus getting addicted to loving caffeine pills.
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https://twitter.com/sundersays/status/1215996243509465090 Starmer is running under average for BAME support here, but not by much, whereas Philips has 22 nominations, without a single one being from a BAME colleague. Similarly - https://twitter.com/sundersays/status/1215997799533285381?s=20 Murray without a single BAME nom from his 30. Allin-Khan running low on BAMe noms is odd, but maybe they're focused on the left, given Burgon and Butler have a lot of support here.
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Coohoolin posted:If someone was to actually be a "serious" centrist they would understand that constantly moving right isn't actually centrist at all, and would also try to move left. I've never seen a "serious centrist" like that but I'm open to being surprised.
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Barry Shitpeas posted:I mean, this is true to an extent, and one major thing that Blair apologists seem to miss is that no way would he have the support of the Murdoch press in the current climate. But I think we have to admit that it stuck to Corbyn more than most, and we can't just treat it as background noise when by all accounts it was a large part of the defeat. But I think RLB should be less vulnerable than him in this regard, even if ultimately that just means she doesn't have the years of left-wing activist cred that he does. Honestly, he probably would have. It's why he did in 97. He woudl have been touted as a sensible centrist answer to Johnson's extremism, because woudl buy the establishment another ten years of neoliberalism . Evidence: that's exactly what he loving did. I'm not treating it as background noise, I'm well aware it was almost the entire reason for the defeat (establishment antipathy towards leftism reflected in press anipathy towards Corbyn and Labour and remain positions, and friendliness towards right-wing extremism), I'm just pretty convinced at this point that there's nothing to do about it except bear witness and ensure that history records the villains in 50 years time, if we're even alive to see it.
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Coohoolin posted:If someone was to actually be a "serious" centrist they would understand that constantly moving right isn't actually centrist at all, and would also try to move left. I've never seen a "serious centrist" like that but I'm open to being surprised. There's two reasons for that. First, centrism moves away from the opposition and towards the establishment, with the idea that the opposition is a bit too anti-establishment to win. Centrists aren't going to move left until a left wing regime takes power for a long time. Second, there are no right wing centrists because right wingers can only keep moving right. All centrists became centrists by moving right.
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Barry Shitpeas posted:I mean this is partly what I mean when I say he has the wrong image (plus he's another white man, big shot lawyer, a literal Sir) your hypothetical candidate would be in exactly the same situation as RLB considering they'd have spent the last couple of election campaigns talking up Corbyn's policies e: and if they hadn't done that I think a lot of people would be fairly sceptical of their sudden conversion to socialist policies just in time for a leadership election Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jan 11, 2020 |
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happyhippy posted:You could be onto something here. Children's Ward had some drat dark story lines too  I noticed a similar and possibly related phenomenon when I went to stand up comedy over there. The audiences were sort of committed to having a good time and would laugh at lame jokes or when the comedians paused for laughter whereas here audiences seem to start from a position of hostility or sometimes even belligerence towards the comedian and they have to work hard to get over that.
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thespaceinvader posted:Honestly, he probably would have. It's why he did in 97. He woudl have been touted as a sensible centrist answer to Johnson's extremism, because woudl buy the establishment another ten years of neoliberalism . I think '97 Murdoch was still trying to cozy up to the people in power, whereas now he has the power and just supports whoever is best for him. And that's always going to be the Tories, no matter how centrist Labour gets. I would like to believe that better things are still possible, but maybe you're right. It's becoming increasingly difficult to see a path to them; in retrospect it seems like the election result was basically predetermined by the 2017 result
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