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Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
that was the secret to bad company 2's sfx, much louder sound effects compared to its contemporary shooters, but the mix also made sure the voice overs were always clear

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The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

site posted:

that was the secret to bad company 2's sfx, much louder sound effects compared to its contemporary shooters, but the mix also made sure the voice overs were always clear
Bad Company 2's "War Tapes" mode was a hell of a thing.

  • Dime, who you saw speedrun SIGIL at AGDQ recently, is helping kick off a Doom 2 multiplayer Duel tournament with a $1500 prize pool. Not exactly Dota money, but it might be fun to swing by one of the qualifier events and see how many picoseconds you last.
  • DoomEd, the NEXTSTEP editor used to create Doom and Doom 2, has been ported to MacOS, Linux and BSD. Probably not hugely useful by modern standards, but a piece of history regardless.
  • Slayer's Testaments demakes Doom 2016 (with some sprinkles of Doom Eternal) in Quake 1.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Casimir Radon posted:

Well I'm off to make a Doom mod where you develop Tinnitus after firing too many shots.

As a sound designer who thinks about the inaccuracies of video game gunfire, PLEASE make this.

Edit: my mental excuse for not minding this in Doom/Doom 2/Quake is because of the helmet. Maybe it's got ear protection?

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

site posted:

that was the secret to bad company 2's sfx, much louder sound effects compared to its contemporary shooters, but the mix also made sure the voice overs were always clear

The new Modern Warfare does this as well. I couldn’t give less of a poo poo about accurately modeled gun sounds that I only ever hear through ear plugs. Give me fun and boomy.

Pathos
Sep 8, 2000

Angry_Ed posted:

Sounds a lot like the principle behind Black for the oXbox and PS2

Was this game any good? I’m assuming not given that I never heard about it post-release but, man, the level of coverage pre-release was super intense.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Pathos posted:

Was this game any good? I’m assuming not given that I never heard about it post-release but, man, the level of coverage pre-release was super intense.

Not really. It’s pretty for a late gen Xbox original and has great sound design but it’s shallow even by console exclusive standards.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Pathos posted:

Was this game any good? I’m assuming not given that I never heard about it post-release but, man, the level of coverage pre-release was super intense.

Its really mediocre and you can play it today on your Bone in 1080p. Its like the grey browniest shooter ever made, has horrible checkpointing, and some dreadful level design. Its greatest sin is having an unskippable absolutely incoherent narrative.

The first level is quite cool for the era

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
Black's claim to fame at the time was some environmental destruction stuff and a whole lotta gun-porn in the weapon animations and loading screens. It hasn't aged so well compared to its peers.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

al-azad posted:

Good audio engineering is convincing the audience how something should sound rather than how it actually sounds. BLOPS 3 probably has the most realistic sound for a 1911 and it’s pretty wimpy because of low muzzle pressure.

It doesn't apply just to guns, either. Ever pulled a bow in a video game? Always make a creaky sound. Ever pulled an actual physical bow in real life? Perfectly silent. But movies and games decided an audio cue would be useful, so you get creaky bows.

ETPC
Jul 10, 2008

Wheel with it.
for those of you brave enough to look and willing to become Very Sad, a bunch of old 3d realms devs have been sharing stories about developing dnf 01 on duke4 in the forums

starts around page 26. just be wary of The BUILD Audience being The BUILD Audience (slurs a plenty)

Szymanski
Jul 31, 2005

You down with OCP?
Sugartime Jones

ETPC posted:

for those of you brave enough to look and willing to become Very Sad, a bunch of old 3d realms devs have been sharing stories about developing dnf 01 on duke4 in the forums

starts around page 26. just be wary of The BUILD Audience being The BUILD Audience (slurs a plenty)

got a link

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh
speaking of, the duke nukem thread from when the game was released just got found again and unhidden.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3416433&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

it's, uh. interesting
there are people defending the game all the way to the end.

GUI
Nov 5, 2005

The thread devolving into arguments is why it was locked and hidden in the first place.

I kind of want to scour through it to see if it was the one that had ms paint comics of an imaginary sequel where Duke is an old steroid addicted wreck who has to get his poo poo together to kill those alien bastards One Last Time but I don't think I can tolerate 150 pages of 2011-era SA for that.

Overbite
Jan 24, 2004


I'm a vtuber expert
Duke Forever isn’t terrible. It’s bad, but not terrible. It had moments where I thought “that was neat”

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Is that the thread with the one image axemaniac made that got him permad

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


DNF is bad in a vacuum but the length of development and what could have been put it in the terrible category.

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

It could have been bad in an entertaining fashion, but no — it's just this completely joyless experience (like my posting).

ETPC
Jul 10, 2008

Wheel with it.

Szymanski posted:

got a link

https://forums.duke4.net/topic/9930-dnf-2001-build-was-allegedly-almost-complete-but-it-probably-wasnt/page__st__750

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

ETPC posted:

for those of you brave enough to look and willing to become Very Sad, a bunch of old 3d realms devs have been sharing stories about developing dnf 01 on duke4 in the forums

starts around page 26. just be wary of The BUILD Audience being The BUILD Audience (slurs a plenty)


Second post from that link:

quote:

From a video I've seen, it appears that Randy is an SJW, so he won't do anything with Duke because it would go against his misandric, heterophobic, anti-Caucasian agenda.
is this guy for real

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
anti caucasian is a very funny term

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

The idea that Randy loving Pitchford gives even half a poo poo about other human beings is funnier than any joke in DNF.

ETPC
Jul 10, 2008

Wheel with it.
the BUILD community continues to be the worst

i'd sacrifice goats for a lefty/queer invasion of the BUILD community that builds weird poo poo and is chill

maybe they would actually build tools that feel usable by human beings who don't think that interface design peaked in 1996

Szymanski
Jul 31, 2005

You down with OCP?
Sugartime Jones

thanks

*edit* hate leads to suffering, suffering leads to shitposting about a dead game

Szymanski fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Jan 11, 2020

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011

Groovelord Neato posted:

DNF is bad in a vacuum but the length of development and what could have been put it in the terrible category.

I think even without the context of the infamous dev time DNF is pretty firmly in terrible territory. If it was just plain unfun, then sure whatever it's just bad. But poo poo like the alien rape fetish level definitely pushes it into the level of being terrible.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Gobblecoque posted:

I think even without the context of the infamous dev time DNF is pretty firmly in terrible territory. If it was just plain unfun, then sure whatever it's just bad. But poo poo like the alien rape fetish level definitely pushes it into the level of being terrible.

I never got that far lol

Barudak
May 7, 2007

DNF is really really bland and slow for 95% of its runtime. If the Hive level was cut out the game would have literally no fulcrum upon which any discussion could rest. Im not going to rehash what everyone knows but my god its impressive how basically every single mechanic in the game is done wrong or badly

ETPC
Jul 10, 2008

Wheel with it.
weiderhold implying in that thread that the '03 reboot could have been prevented if he had been there to say no to george but he was in the hospital recovering from a serious car crash

goddamn

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Matt Hazard is the comedy shooter we didn’t deserve.

GUI
Nov 5, 2005

I thought the only good things in DNF were the very few arena combat sequences it had, especially the one on top of the Duke Burger which provided some fun shootbang even with all the flaws the game had. The pipe bombs, ripper and shotgun were fun to use.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

site posted:

Is that the thread with the one image axemaniac made that got him permad

He's not perma'd, he posted four days ago lmao

A Worrying Warlock
Sep 21, 2009

Tim Thomas posted:

so procedural red faction implemented in Minecraft, then

I've been catching up on this thread since I was away from awhile, but wanted to dig this post up because it gives me a chance to mention Eldritch.

Seriously, that game remains the pinnacle of roguelike fps games, if only for its movement system. That, and frantically emptying a revolver at a grotesque pinguin. Or the first time you discover what are basically Weeping Angels.

Play Eldritch, is what I'm saying.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

kirbysuperstar posted:

He's not perma'd, he posted four days ago lmao

huh for some reason i thought he got permad after he posted That One Picture

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

site posted:

huh for some reason i thought he got permad after he posted That One Picture

To be fair he probably should have been, because what the gently caress

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


If it's the urinal picture you're talking about he either did that while he was a mod, maybe even before.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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the duke nukem stuff and axemaniac stuff is like radioactive waste and should be buried in a mountain because i don't think anyone is proud of it and nothing good comes out of touching it

ETPC
Jul 10, 2008

Wheel with it.
[jon st. jon voice] THIS PLACE IS NOT A PLACE OF HONOR........NO HIGHLY ESTEEMED DEED IS COMMEMORATED HERE.......NOTHING VALUED IS HERE

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Matt Hazard is like, half as funny as it thinks it is which is half as funny as it needs to be given how bad the gameplay is.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Blood Bath and Beyond played better but was also kinda less uhh... inspired, I guess and less funny.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
  • Doom 4 Vanilla v2.5.7 is out, bringing the usual bugfixes with it.
  • Unity Doom Ripper pulls the IWADs out of Bethesda's modern Unity-based Doom ports so that you can use source ports. The latest GZDoom dev builds properly detect and handle these IWADs.

https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1211331998968619008
https://twitter.com/A2R0b/status/1213220726662139904

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Barudak posted:

DNF is really really bland and slow for 95% of its runtime. If the Hive level was cut out the game would have literally no fulcrum upon which any discussion could rest. Im not going to rehash what everyone knows but my god its impressive how basically every single mechanic in the game is done wrong or badly

I stopped playing when the third person driving section appeared.

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