Armadillo Tank posted:

Phone posting: there are complaints about notch copying or plagiarizing another indie game that got its source pirated or something. There is no real proof of this and I mostly see it mentioned by people who are already mad at him for being a dickhead.

Zach Barth posted:

I stopped working on Infiniminer when the source code was leaked. It was totally my fault, as that’s what I get for releasing an un-obfuscated .NET assembly, but it nevertheless enabled hackers to create hacked clients and players upset with my balancing decisions to fork and write their own clients and servers.”

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Theres also something to say about skills. These textures of infiniminer are horrible, the ones of Notch are much better. And Minecraft support a map bigger than earth, how big can be a infiniminer map? Maybe Notch is a better game dev than Zatch and as done a better game. Infiniminer looks a lot like a prototype in a bad way.

ErrEff posted:

Fun comment from that article's comment thread, which is infinitely funny in hindsight:


Hahaha. Haha. Ha.

Tippis posted:

Read and despair. Maybe I should dig out my 1993 rant again…

ErrEff posted:

Whether Notch based his Minecraft work on that leaked code... well, we'll never truly know. The game was a direct inspiration for Notch, he's said as much. There is no direct proof AFAIK.

Hav posted:

I liked Strike Commander, but i got it given to me as a bonus CD that arrived with a receptionist’s computer along with Ultima something.

At that particular time, the best computer game I’d played was Enemy Unknown, and possibly tie-fighter.

Agony Aunt posted:

SC is for adults with expendable income who want to be fully immersed in the most realistic space sim ever.

Which i read, its for man children who have no life, no family, who want to escape reality into a space based mil sim that is most certainly not the most realistic space sim ever due to how unreleasitic the whole flight model is and how space itself is scaled down massively compared with the real thing.

Quavers posted:

Why not just make one little, fully-developed star system?
Why not just have a star system with 2 planets to explore, a gritty space station, debris field. That's all we need to have a good time. Just make it all in one place and develop all of those things simultaneously. Instead of the bullshit feature creep. It would be a microcosm to experiment with economy and server strain and procedural generation and the like/

because hindsight is 20/20 and early on they promised over 100 systems maybe?

The Titanic posted:

Sure at some point the Dream was "total immersion and full simulation", but at nearly a decade in and none of these things happening... what's the simulation supposed to be? What's the realism supposed to be?

The Titanic posted:

So this is something.

I feel like at this point you can evaluate SC on it's realism and simulation and where it's going.

I have not seen any videos where there is a simulation level event happening. There's nothing like Arma in the personal level combat, and even Frontier Pilot Simulator is leaps and bounds ahead of CIG in the flying and simulation department, not even going to games like Flight Simulator or Falcon.

The graphics are intended to "look real" and that seems to be as far as simulation and realistic as SC gets. Everything else is very much an arena game with some broken simulator mechanics thrown in, like black out events for characters because some arbitrary counter got to high/low.

It's a pretty safe bet that the big systems they flaunted along since they beginning are either not going to happen, will be massively stripped down, or are 40 years away.

Death of a spaceman mechanics, the complex repair system with different metal alloys and manually running welding systems, the complex telescope system, "science", farming in space, the game of Command and Conquer that was supposed to be on all the capital ships for the admirals to lord over during massive player battles of hundreds of ships, literally manually reloading guns and missiles inside capital ships... the list goes on.

Sure at some point the Dream was "total immersion and full simulation", but at nearly a decade in and none of these things happening... what's the simulation supposed to be? What's the realism supposed to be? Is it fully based around the ships "looking real" but having no realistic mechanics behind them that make this a "simulation"?

I'm just curious why people think this is going to be the next DCS when nothing happening in the gameplay world is going in that direction. The only advancements in the game seem to be purely tied to getting more ships and personal avatar accessories in there, rather than building a convincing simulation of any of these entities in tandem and how they correlate together.

I guess they also have no fast travel. So that must be where it is a simulation?

AbstractNapper posted:

I've a terrible feeling that SQ54 will be exactly that. Just the one poor star system they have right now. They just rename SC as SQ, dodge the law suit, and move on from there.

Sure the basement commandos will be upset, but their frustration is not going to last. We know it, they know it, and Crobbler knows it. It's not like they can ask for a refund

What is a single player campaign anyway, if not a multiplayer mode where players number is one.

Other philosophical questions to rehash in 2020 include:
What is in a name?
Isn't beta still an alpha though?
What is release really?

The Titanic posted:

So this is something.

I feel like at this point you can evaluate SC on it's realism and simulation and where it's going.

I have not seen any videos where there is a simulation level event happening. There's nothing like Arma in the personal level combat, and even Frontier Pilot Simulator is leaps and bounds ahead of CIG in the flying and simulation department, not even going to games like Flight Simulator or Falcon.

The graphics are intended to "look real" and that seems to be as far as simulation and realistic as SC gets. Everything else is very much an arena game with some broken simulator mechanics thrown in, like black out events for characters because some arbitrary counter got to high/low.

It's a pretty safe bet that the big systems they flaunted along since they beginning are either not going to happen, will be massively stripped down, or are 40 years away.

Death of a spaceman mechanics, the complex repair system with different metal alloys and manually running welding systems, the complex telescope system, "science", farming in space, the game of Command and Conquer that was supposed to be on all the capital ships for the admirals to lord over during massive player battles of hundreds of ships, literally manually reloading guns and missiles inside capital ships... the list goes on.

Sure at some point the Dream was "total immersion and full simulation", but at nearly a decade in and none of these things happening... what's the simulation supposed to be? What's the realism supposed to be? Is it fully based around the ships "looking real" but having no realistic mechanics behind them that make this a "simulation"?

I'm just curious why people think this is going to be the next DCS when nothing happening in the gameplay world is going in that direction. The only advancements in the game seem to be purely tied to getting more ships and personal avatar accessories in there, rather than building a convincing simulation of any of these entities in tandem and how they correlate together.

I guess they also have no fast travel. So that must be where it is a simulation?

Mr. Peepers posted:

THANK YOU FOR PLAYING STAR CITIZEN.

Mr. Peepers posted:

error 404: game not found

Beet Wagon posted:

CIG just hit 2.5 million web accounts

It took them ~2.5 years to get from 1 million to 2 million (~400,000 new accounts/year)

It has taken them ~1.75 to add another half a million (~286,000 new accounts/year)

Got some ground to make up in 2020 but remember the sales can only go up up up!

ErrEff posted:

The game was Infiniminer, the very first game by Zachtronics.

Infiniminer's source code was leaked shortly after its 1.0 release, prompting him to stop working on it. The rationale was that the code was now in the hands of the community and they'd continue the work if they wanted to; Zach had lost interest in the game.

Tulenian posted:

Whoa this takes me back. The game was also horribly written for a multiplayer game - almost every single thing was client side and so it was very easy to hack. For example you could avoid death just by commenting out a line on the client that called the kill player function. Goon server forks tried to fix that but just made Zach mad.

Beet Wagon posted:

CIG just hit 2.5 million web accounts

It took them ~2.5 years to get from 1 million to 2 million (~400,000 new accounts/year)

It has taken them ~1.75 to add another half a million (~286,000 new accounts/year)

Got some ground to make up in 2020 but remember the sales can only go up up up!

Beet Wagon posted:

Hey can you do me a favor and pop a quick edit on this? I know it's a reddit quote but SA is cracking down on slurs bigtime and I'd hate to see someone have to donate to the spine fund over a quote of a quote of a racist star citizen player.

The Titanic posted:

So this is something.

I feel like at this point you can evaluate SC on it's realism and simulation and where it's going.

I have not seen any videos where there is a simulation level event happening. There's nothing like Arma in the personal level combat, and even Frontier Pilot Simulator is leaps and bounds ahead of CIG in the flying and simulation department, not even going to games like Flight Simulator or Falcon.

The graphics are intended to "look real" and that seems to be as far as simulation and realistic as SC gets. Everything else is very much an arena game with some broken simulator mechanics thrown in, like black out events for characters because some arbitrary counter got to high/low.

It's a pretty safe bet that the big systems they flaunted along since they beginning are either not going to happen, will be massively stripped down, or are 40 years away.

Death of a spaceman mechanics, the complex repair system with different metal alloys and manually running welding systems, the complex telescope system, "science", farming in space, the game of Command and Conquer that was supposed to be on all the capital ships for the admirals to lord over during massive player battles of hundreds of ships, literally manually reloading guns and missiles inside capital ships... the list goes on.

Sure at some point the Dream was "total immersion and full simulation", but at nearly a decade in and none of these things happening... what's the simulation supposed to be? What's the realism supposed to be? Is it fully based around the ships "looking real" but having no realistic mechanics behind them that make this a "simulation"?

I'm just curious why people think this is going to be the next DCS when nothing happening in the gameplay world is going in that direction. The only advancements in the game seem to be purely tied to getting more ships and personal avatar accessories in there, rather than building a convincing simulation of any of these entities in tandem and how they correlate together.

I guess they also have no fast travel. So that must be where it is a simulation?

Elderbean posted:

There are tabletop RPGs that let you live out the fantasy of being a spaceman with a huge galaxy to explore, if you're just going to roleplay with your friends, do that. They don't cost thousands of dollars.

Elderbean posted:

There are tabletop RPGs that let you live out the fantasy of being a spaceman with a huge galaxy to explore, if you're just going to roleplay with your friends, do that. They don't cost thousands of dollars.

Thoatse posted:

Lord Stimperor posted:

Just saw a kickscammers video on bad board game kcikstarters. The first entry was Star Traders, which was considered a failure because it had to have all it's artwork redone because it was plagiarized by Ryan Archer. Nice

The Titanic posted:

So this is something.

no_recall posted:

The Citizens are dreaming about big set pieces from games like Call of Duty,. Freespace 2, Star Wars and etc. We already see that a simulation like Elite, those "set pieces" don't stick. The battleships warping in for the 42nd time, and the procedural generated battles aren't the same as a level built around proper direction.

Chris thinks that with enough tech and AI, he can make all this happen naturally. Shitizens are buying ships everyday to the effect that ONE DAY, they will experience all this in proc-gen bird glory in their fleets.

So, buy an Idris.

Inacio posted:

https://twitter.com/TheCrazyTonkGuy/status/1216404713534451712

reddit posted:

Possibility once VR support is added

I plan on making a to scale replica of whatever ship im flying in and integrating my IRL bathroom into it. I'll walk to the bathroom while still in VR and pee IRL into the ship's toilet. Immersion level 100.

Anyone else have similar epic plans?

iron buns posted:

iron buns posted:

Remember when Jared and Tyler talked about playing Squadron 42?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-CZrmCtqdk
(at 17:41 if the link doesn't work)

Good times.

Agony Aunt posted:

> In a letter included in the game’s manual, Chris Roberts famously called Strike Commander the “Apocalypse Now” of computer games. At the time, Strike Commander was far over budget and a year overdue. Getting the game out had been a Herculean task, taking far more blood, sweat and treasure than anyone had ever imagined.

Sounds so familiar...