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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Woah, what was probatable/bannable about this post? I miss something? Sam Harris is alt-right. Believes in racial science, thinks the Charlottesville nazis were just there to peacefully protest until violent antifa forced their hand, etc. Victor Vermis is a poster who tends to straddle the line of what's acceptable. "I like nazis" puts him over the top.
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I'm no SA-15 expert, but it was doctrine to fire two Standards at any target to ensure a kill. If the whole thing was automated anyway, the second launch probably was, too, for the same reason.
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Popehat is livetweeting an Avenatti phone hearing. It's a monumental clusterfuck, as Avenatti was arrested in California by California prosecutors/judge, but SDNY and the NY judge is pissed off about it. https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1217478249699131392?s=19 Basically, Central District of California is saying that Avenatti, while on bail, kept criming. https://twitter.com/Ugarles/status/1217479264414715904?s=19 Edit: JESUS CHRIST MIKE https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1217482917791711234?s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jan 15, 2020 |
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Madurai posted:I'm no SA-15 expert, but it was doctrine to fire two Standards at any target to ensure a kill. If the whole thing was automated anyway, the second launch probably was, too, for the same reason. Since no missile has a 100% hit probability, two greatly increases the chance of a hit. Fire two missiles each with a 75% hit probability and you have a 93.75% chance that one or the other or both will hit the target. The independent chance of both hitting the target is only 56.25%.
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Jan 15, 2020 17:16
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facialimpediment posted:Edit: JESUS CHRIST MIKE lol that's about as dumb as it gets
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Jan 15, 2020 17:39
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BadOptics posted:You can definitely tell how hosed up our national priorities are. Yeah we are fundamentally hosed as a people. I don't mean hosed up (well that too), I mean just hosed.
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It's like that george carlin bit when he says we're good at war and people start cheering and you just know it's because some of them think that's the thing to applaud
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https://twitter.com/SmithInAmerica/status/1217494669950582784?s=20 Politifacts gives this zero Pinocchios as those utilizing VHA care are all dead
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Specifically, it's because nobody is telling him any of the complaints that they hear, and he has himself surrounded by sycophants.
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zharmad posted:Since no missile has a 100% hit probability, two greatly increases the chance of a hit. Fire two missiles each with a 75% hit probability and you have a 93.75% chance that one or the other or both will hit the target. The independent chance of both hitting the target is only 56.25%. As a TOW gunner a million years ago, we were taught to always volley fire. "If it's worth shooting once, it's worth shooting twice." has applied to every weapon I've ever heard of.
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To no ones surprise ole Vlady dissolved the Russian Government and is going full authoritarian without the thin veil of democracy. I’m sure he’s putting together a pop up book for Donnie so he can follow along easy in 2024 for his part. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-government-resigns-putin-seeks-constitutional-shakeup-n1116176?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma
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How mad do you think Trump is that he can’t do the same?
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Retrowave Joe posted:How mad do you think Trump is that he can’t do the same? He can’t?
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Jan 15, 2020 18:57
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going? hes been that way since yeltsin
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Retrowave Joe posted:How mad do you think Trump is that he can’t do the same? It's absolutely his instinctual political desire as an authoritarian demagogue but it's my opinion that even his syphilis-sponged lizard brain grasps that the nation isn't on board with that yet. Absolutely working towards that end, don't get me wrong, just not there as a country so I'd say he redirects his anger at being opposed into all the "radical leftist antifa super soldier do-nothing perfidious Democratic party enemies of the state" rhetoric. That, of course, being a stepping stone towards declaring all political opposition enemies of the state through whatever means becomes available. That's a process of erosion though, not something that can just be done instantly. While he is being frustrated in that long term goal I doubt there's enough non-swiss cheese'd grey matter left for him to be angry at the larger picture. He sees the enemy in front of him and shits his pants in narcissistic rage about that. What should be terrifying is the next authoritarian demagogue out there in the country right now who is taking notes on his successes and who is capable of that longer term thinking.
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Bernie the person is fine. The segment of his supporters who vote Trump if they can’t get the primary candidate they want are abysmal jerks. Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) Tweeted: Thanks, Bernie. https://t.co/Lh01EaZp2Q https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1217143409070219267?s=20
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So when Biden says he can win over Trump voters it's cool and good, but when there is objective proof that people will vote for Bernie who would otherwise vote for Trump if given the choice it's bad?
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Arven posted:So when Biden says he can win over Trump voters it's cool and good, but when there is objective proof that people will vote for Bernie who would otherwise vote for Trump if given the choice it's bad? Both are bad people hth.
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Jan 15, 2020 20:21
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It's not fair that he's cheating by promising to materially improve the lives of Americans.
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Jan 15, 2020 20:21
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mlmp08 posted:The segment of his supporters who vote Trump if they can’t get the primary candidate they want are abysmal jerks. Really, this kind of thing is a wash. If Bernie wins, Biden people will run off too. Every single year, primary voters that didn't get their candidate end up defecting to the other party. Voters can be irrationally non-ideological. I've seen some stuff that basically double the amount of hillary-or-busters would've defected, compared to Bernie Bros, if she didn't win the primary. Remember the 2008 PUMA (Party Unity My rear end) Democrats? In a close election like 2016, literally everything mattered. Stay-home Bernie Bros could've cost the election, but so could've some clouds in the Midwest!
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Jan 15, 2020 20:22
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You know what really cost Hillary the election? Hillary Clinton's stupid campaign staff.
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facialimpediment posted:
I don't know if that's valid. The PUMA Democrats were less die hard Hillary supporters and more just racist fucks.
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Arven posted:So when Biden says he can win over Trump voters it's cool and good, but when there is objective proof that people will vote for Bernie who would otherwise vote for Trump if given the choice it's bad? Ist that what you got from that Tweet?
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facialimpediment posted:Really, this kind of thing is a wash. If Bernie wins, Biden people will run off too. Every single year, primary voters that didn't get their candidate end up defecting to the other party. Voters can be irrationally non-ideological. This is true, I wouldn't be be surprised if Biden has more. Bernie-to-Trump idiots just tend to be extremely online whereas Biden-to-Trump idiots I feel are more old, upper-middle class "I would be a Republican if they could stop saying the quiet part out loud" idiots. I swear though, I like Bernie more after every debate in large part because when I get to see him actually talk I remember he's not his jackass supporters.
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Jarmak posted:I swear though, I like Bernie more after every debate in large part because when I get to see him actually talk I remember he's not his jackass supporters. If you're going to paint all Bernie supporters as being a certain type, then you have a lot of work to do, because there are a whole lot of them comparatively, and they are all dispersed throughout a whole lot of very underprivileged jobs compared to other candidates: https://www.waldrn.com/candidate-support-by-occupation-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/ Happy Thread fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jan 15, 2020 |
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Jan 15, 2020 20:55
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Dumb Lowtax posted:If you're going to paint all Bernie supporters as being a certain type, then you have a lot of work to do, because there are a whole lot of them comparatively, and they are all dispersed throughout a whole lot of very underprivileged jobs compared to other candidates: Not trying to, just the obnoxious and extremely online supporters.
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Jan 15, 2020 21:07
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Voters aren't responsible for the failings of disastrous candidates, hth
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Voters aren't responsible for the failings of disastrous candidates, hth 
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This guy is still Senate Minority Leader At least publicly, Schumer has no worries about his party’s dwindling fortunes among working-class white voters. “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.”
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Ist that what you got from that Tweet? Right? Lest people get defensive, I’m not making GBS threads on Bernie or boosting a competitor. But if someone earnestly said they were going to vote Bernie (or Warren or Biden or whoever) and then they vote Trump if another democrat wins the primary, yeah, they’re garbage.
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Glory to Arsztotzka
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Dumb Lowtax posted:If you're going to paint all Bernie supporters as being a certain type, then you have a lot of work to do, because there are a whole lot of them comparatively, and they are all dispersed throughout a whole lot of very underprivileged jobs compared to other candidates: Taking a moment to look at this it's kind dangerous to draw too many conclusions because of how heavy the uncertainty regarding what effect selection bias has on this is, but there are some definite trends you can't ignore. I dug into this as well for comparison: https://www.politico.com/2020-election/democratic-presidential-candidates/polls/ The clear trend that emerges is lack of college education is the biggest predictor of Bernie support, followed by being a man. Warren's biggest predictor is being a white women, followed by having a college degree. Biden's biggest predictor is being black, followed by being old. Butt's is being white, followed by being old. edit: After more digging being under 30 is arguably a better predictor for supporting Bernie than being a man, and making more than $50k is equally as predictive for mayor Pete as being old (though there's some serious confounding variables here if you're talking about old, white, and $50k+) Jarmak fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Jan 15, 2020 |
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mlmp08 posted:Bernie the person is fine. Consider what Rick Wilson, a Republican political operative, gains by framing Trump's win this way, at a time when Sanders is just pulling ahead in the Iowa polls. You're taking a Republican attack on Sanders at face value. There was a long time between the Democratic primaries and the federal election, during which time Clinton deliberately chose not to campaign in Wisconsin, and hardly at all in Michigan and Pennsylvania. It should be no shock that Trump picked up votes from democrats across the board, not just Bernie voters. That's the whole point of campaigning.
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Jarmak posted:The clear trend that emerges is lack of college education is the biggest predictor of Bernie support, followed by being a man. Warren's biggest predictor is being a white women, followed by having a college degree. Biden's biggest predictor is being black, followed by being old. Butt's is being white, followed by being old. these conclusions are pretty loving bizarre based on the charts you linked
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:these conclusions are pretty loving bizarre based on the charts you linked In what way?
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Jarmak posted:In what way? For example, I'm wondering how you look at this chart, which shows that 48% of Sanders supporters are men compared to 45% of the party overall, and conclude that 'being a man' is the second-biggest predictor of Bernie support: 
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mlmp08 posted:Bernie the person is fine. I’d read that more as Bernie mobilizing normally conservative voting people, not Bernie Bros or whatever people want to call them?
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