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Jan 15, 2020 22:22
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Beefeater1980 posted:I just find it really lazy of him to handwave away all administrative, clerical or managerial jobs as basically a priestly class that doesn’t add any value. Maybe. I think ronya is right in that the article assumes you've read Bullshit Jobs. I don't know (again, haven't reread the article) if he's saying that's the divide, especially considering he's a professor of anthropology, but rather what the right wing weaponised, their populism, in order to win.
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Jan 15, 2020 22:29
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RottenK posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1217520335479824384 Yeah, polls moving in the right direction. Hopefully, she can broaden that gap.
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Jan 15, 2020 22:32
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RottenK posted:this seems like good news? Faaar too close for comfort, Bailey needs to stick a crowbar in that gap and heave.
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Jan 15, 2020 22:46
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These boats are cursed https://twitter.com/pn_tomcotterill/status/1217135937563582467
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:Faaar too close for comfort, Bailey needs to stick a crowbar in that gap and heave. the hustings haven't even started yet, lots can change (including for the worse, important to remember that) but this is a good position to start from
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Jan 15, 2020 22:52
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Jan 15, 2020 22:52
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escapegoat posted:That's Garbodor It is, but for Jessflaps to be Garbodor she must have once been Trubbish, who is the better of the two.
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Jan 15, 2020 22:59
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https://twitter.com/GerryHassan/status/1217562607311343618?s=20 Not sure Lisa Nandy is very smart. Mind you, just about every Labour politician is loving pisspoor when Scotland comes up.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:09
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Borrovan posted:Lol you've had PMs for like 6 months you numpty, I bought it for you when you posted your email so I could ask you about some utilitarianism poo poo 6 months and in all that time no one's wanted to PM Miftan. Sad.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:17
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Lisa Nandy demanding to bring back the "Rebellious Scots to crush" line to the national anthem and give Prince Andrew the right of extremely pre prima nocta.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:19
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Guavanaut posted:tired: Harry is James Hewitt's son sired: Harry is both Prince Charles' *and* Queen Elizabeth's son.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:19
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RottenK posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1217520335479824384 Jessflaps going out in the first round is too much to ask for, I know, but I'll settle for single-digits for her if only to see how she tries to justify it, because the obvious route (loony lefties not voting for her because she's too real, sensible centrists voting for Starmer because they're sexist) would seem to completely end any chance she ever has of ever holding any sort of position in the party ever again.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:23
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Beefeater1980 posted:I just find it really lazy of him to handwave away all administrative, clerical or managerial jobs as basically a priestly class that doesn’t add any value.  I'm personally of the opinion that some inspectors, say gas and electric and vehicle inspectors, are generally good things, and we should make specialist tools for them to do that, because checking which one's live with your finger hurts. But I don't think that's where he's going with that, and he's thinking more of the sort of aggressive auditing that plagued certain Soviet industries and Western conglomerates to the point of paperwork paralysis. I think that folds back to the criticism of New Labour though, where unless you're careful you can't tell the difference between the neoliberal/prohibitionist bollocks (quantifying yobs) and the things that sounded for all the world like that but actually had legitimate purposes (a lot of the maritime stuff). Also sprach Technokratie. forkboy84 posted:Not sure Lisa Nandy is very smart. Mind you, just about every Labour politician is loving pisspoor when Scotland comes up.  goddamnedtwisto posted:sired: Harry is both Prince Charles' *and* Queen Elizabeth's son.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:24
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Josef bugman posted:I think one of the big problems is that in trying to measure everything we end up creating a kind of ever spiralling hell dimension because even if the data is being collected, it isn't often being used or anything being done about it. And when it is, it's usually being done loving terribly.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:32
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thespaceinvader posted:And when it is, it's usually being done loving terribly. Also then the work is changed to fix those arbitrary metrics rather than to fix the actual problems.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:33
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Rarity posted:6 months and in all that time no one's wanted to PM Miftan. Sad. To be fair I wasn't aware I had them so they were turned off.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:35
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Ugh work today was the worst. I've been sick all week but still coming in cause I was ill just before Xmas and am hoping to have some interviews soon so I may have to bunk off or take them off so slogging through the week and my boss is just being an absolute piece of poo poo. Genuinely starting to wonder if the FTEs at the massive company I work at get told to be massive shits to contractors as part of their induction, certainly feels like it.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:42
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RottenK posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1217520335479824384 I voted for Corbyn, campaigned for Labour in the last election, and am very firmly on the left.... But I'm still not on board the RLB bandwagon. I know she did good work on the green new deal, but that aside a lot of the campaign so far seems to be relying heavily on "she's the left wing candidate therefore you need to vote for her." Can anyone point me in the direction of some impressive stuff she's done (especially press wise), because I'd like to like her more, but I've yet to see her do any particularly compelling speech or interview, I can't shake the feeling that Rayner would have been a more apt candidate
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Jan 16, 2020 00:19
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Josef bugman posted:I think one of the big problems is that in trying to measure everything we end up creating a kind of ever spiralling hell dimension because even if the data is being collected, it isn't often being used or anything being done about it. There's a huge management thing that spills over into other areas of life "that which can't be measured can't be managed". Rather than figure out ways to 'measure' more qualitative, subjective aspects of life, these are usually ignored in favour of the more directly measurable processes and outcomes. Or occasionally you get these spurious 'equations' in the papers to calculate happiness or whatever.
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Jan 16, 2020 00:19
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 I hope Big Ben burns down on the 31st in front of a million gammons.
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Jan 16, 2020 00:24
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I hope someone blasts one of those projector things at the tower, ruining all live footage
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Jan 16, 2020 00:27
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Stopping Brexit by stealing Big Ben's clapper
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Spalec posted:
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Jan 16, 2020 00:37
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Ratjaculation posted:I hope someone blasts one of those projector things at the tower, ruining all live footage I don't much care for fubpee shenanigans but projecting the EU flag onto it would be pretty funny, because you know a bunch of gammons are going to be there waiting to celebrate it (before fleeing the Sharia no-go-zone that is London at exactly 2301) and it would completely loving ruin their big night. Also a bunch of fubpees might get torn apart by a crowd of gammons/shot by police for pointing a big thing at the Houses of Parliament, which will also be pretty funny.
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Blasmeister posted:Stopping Brexit by stealing Big Ben's clapper I honestly hope they raise the money but accidentally install a giant slide whistle.
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e: ^^ horns.aiff on loudspeakerNiric posted:I can't shake the feeling that Rayner would have been a more apt candidate I thought this but then Rayner has spent the last couple of weeks seemingly enjoying the taste of her own shoes with the various missteps and gaffes she's made, including but not limited to trying to "me too" in on a conversation about experiencing racism.  Of the candidates, she is the best option for Labour. I think Butler is my pick for deppity.
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Jan 16, 2020 00:59
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Well, this is some bullshit. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/14/taxi-union-boss-denies-assaulting-ears-of-police-with-megaphone quote:A union boss has gone on trial for the alleged assault of two police officers who complained his chanting through a megaphone in support of gig workers’ rights hurt their ears.
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ThomasPaine posted:Absolutely, but the OP suggested that there were more people who own things tham people who do things which is demonstrably false. Well do that demonstration. UK home ownership rate is still over 60% (it used to be over 70). 30% of the total population are over the state pension age. 9% of the resident population lacks citizenship, including the right to vote, 21% are under 18, and 32% of those eligible to vote don’t. Consequently, Tories comfortably win elections despite approximately no one who has an expectation of staying in work for another decade voting for them.
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Wolfsbane posted:Well, this is some bullshit. 
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Jan 16, 2020 01:46
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I think Butler is my pick for deputy but she has voted previously against investigations into Iraq and a couple of other slightly dodgy things. Like, 90% of her voting record is good but yeah. Rayner's record obviously only goes back to 2015 but she's also said some stuff on Twitter etc. that's made me think "Hmmmm", including that thing I posted before like Bundy said where she "me too"'d a black woman MP experiencing racism which was a Yikes moment. Again, Burgon's record only goes back to 2015, he's been decent enough when I've seen him on the telly doing debates and stuff. Def wouldn't want him as leader but maybe he'd be alright as deputy? To be honest, based on my current perception/knowledge about them, I'd be happy enough if any of these 3 became deputy. Rosena Allin-Khan seems proper melty, and I seem to think Ian Murray is a oval office but I can't remember specifically why?
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Is there any interest in setting up a new Irish politics thread for the election, or should we keep posts to here and the Europe thread?
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WhatEvil posted:and I seem to think Ian Murray is a oval office but I can't remember specifically why? I only heard of him recently when he responded "because I'm not a oval office" when a journo asked him why he wasn't mad Corbyn hadn't stepped down yet a day or two after the election.
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Guavanaut posted:He's far from the first. I agree that a large part of work done has no legitimate purpose, and that the percentage is probably lower for manual jobs. But the solution seems to me to be (1) creating a safe way of not having a job but having a decent living anyway, combined with (2) eliminating the bullshit bits of jobs, which may in some cases be 100% of them.
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Mark Fisher goes into the quite strange way neoliberalism maintained the need for piles of meaningless red tape and bureaucracy despite its rhetoric on 'efficiency' in capitalist realism. It's worth a read. Many bureaucratic jobs are very much necessary of course but I would imagine that in UK 2020 there are legions of people working in finance, marketing, PR positions etc that would simply not be necessary sans capitalism. First they came for the social media managers, and I did not speak out because I was not a social media manager. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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ThomasPaine posted:First they came for the social media managers, and I did not speak out because I was not a social media manager. Then they came for HR, and nobody spoke out because gently caress those assholes.
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SEO is still the epitome of a completely loving worthless job which benefits nobody, to me.
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Sometimes I am glad that my job is simply putting things from one place to another so that people can locate and purchase the things.
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