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I'd set a d-pad button, or maybe clicking a thumbstick, to 'draw/holster blaster.' If you have your blaster holstered, your bumpers and triggers are your force powers. If you have your blaster drawn, at least one of them (probably force pull) becomes 'shoot.'
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I hadn't realized Outcast was on GC, somehow it slipped me by despite having that console. Still, that's about as clunky as I was picturing. ninjahedgehog posted:You could add a third Force power by pressing the triggers simultaneously, and even mix and match through some sort of wheel or pause menu like Mass Effect. You'd definitely have to trim down the active powers, but I like this idea - I used push/pull for most of the game, but slow for trickier enemies and bosses, so I'd want a way to switch gears on the fly. And yeah, you'd almost definitely have to have some contextual alternate controls for when your gun is drawn.
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Even on keyboard Outcast and Academy were kind of clunky when it came to Force powers. The core problem is that there were way too many of them, so there wasn't a way to have all of them near your WASD and still have space for use, crouch, etc. Basically you'd have to either cycle through them like the GameCube, hunt and peck for the right key, or reassign your keybindings every playthrough so you've have easy access to the ones you picked. TheCenturion posted:I'd set a d-pad button, or maybe clicking a thumbstick, to 'draw/holster blaster.' If you have your blaster holstered, your bumpers and triggers are your force powers. If you have your blaster drawn, at least one of them (probably force pull) becomes 'shoot.' This would be cool too, basically treating your blaster like another Force power. Every young Jedi hopeful must master the ancient techniques of Telekinesis, Telepathy, Psychometry, and Gun
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Eventually with Outcast and Academy, I set the Force powers to sorta mimic what they used for Unleashed Push on E Grip on R Pull on T Lightning on Q Heal on F Mind Trick on Z Speed on X Never bothered using the number keys for weapon switching, since why do that when the lightsaber exists Unless you really, really, really wanna snipe a guy on the other side of the map, in which case fine, fair enough Also disabled the HUD because it takes up too much space (cg_draw2d 0) and haven't looked back since - what other game lets you do stupid things like having Lando duel Darth Vader?
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ninjahedgehog posted:Every young Jedi hopeful must master the ancient techniques of Telekinesis, Telepathy, Psychometry, and Gun  The true reason the Order weakened and ultimately fell.
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gently caress, Outcast all you had to do was mouselook to dice people up with saberrealisticcombat. Thats something thats really changed in games, eh. I guess that was still a more technical kind of code compared to your A B Up Down whatever, but with everything being online and such now, you dont have much stuff like that you can gently caress with without mods or trainers. I found Force Unleashed to be so bland and forgettable. I hope thats not how this ends up for me, but I find I almost have to convince myself to play it over the other games I have on the go at the moment.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:20
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I will say that I really like the general level of lethality the lightsaber has here, compared to the loving whifflebat saber from TFU.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I will say that I really like the general level of lethality the lightsaber has here, compared to the loving whifflebat saber from TFU. The lightsaber was a secondary weapon in TFU and only really required for boss fights Otherwise you just Push, Grip, and Lightning everything standing in front of you
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The tone down they had to use on human enemy deaths is jarring for me. I get that they can’t have decapitation or stormtroopers falling in half with the rating they want but after some of the satisfying ways bugs and critters get lopped in half doing a massive lightsaber combo and the stormtrooper just falls over with a tiny line across his chest is anticlimactic. Heck they showed darth maul getting cut in half
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Well, that'd be kind of morbid and horrifying to implement as a regular mechanic for a good character. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some alive and aware stormtroopers to hurl off a thousand foot cliff.
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Captain Hygiene posted:Well, that'd be kind of morbid and horrifying to implement as a regular mechanic for a good character. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some alive and aware stormtroopers to hurl off a thousand foot cliff. They land in water. Everywhere. No matter what
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Captain Hygiene posted:Well, that'd be kind of morbid and horrifying to implement as a regular mechanic for a good character. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some alive and aware stormtroopers to hurl off a thousand foot cliff. Kyle Katarn  It is jarring since Obi Wan lopped a dude's arm off in New Hope and nobody batted an eye
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Jan 16, 2020 00:26
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it's one thing to have someone get cut in half in a film where they control the framing and edit and another to have some disney exec's kid go on Twitch and see the top streamer gathering as many stormtroopers as he can to one spot so he can build a throne out of severed heads
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TulliusCicero posted:Kyle Katarn Obi Wan left his student missing all his limbs to die a slow and painful death choking on fumes on a lava planet. I don't know if we can call him a good person.
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TulliusCicero posted:Kyle Katarn Good guys get up to one good chop per film, this is established canon.
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SirSamVimes posted:Obi Wan left his student missing all his limbs to die a slow and painful death choking on fumes on a lava planet. I don't know if we can call him a good person. You know, you raise a fair point 
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Captain Hygiene posted:Well, that'd be kind of morbid and horrifying to implement as a regular mechanic for a good character. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some alive and aware stormtroopers to hurl off a thousand foot cliff. I did enjoy the big Wild 9 energy that Cal had at points.
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Jan 16, 2020 01:58
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Now there’s a swim boost button.
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No game is violent enough for my liking. Still waiting on a Soldier of Fortune sequel I really want to like this game but the hand holding with the enemies changing colors and everything else, the needless amount of extra animations for every loving thing you do. Also I realized why I was sucking at combat,I wasn't using the delayed second attack enough
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Delayed second attack is amazing. Really any move outside an established rhythm is great, the AI is very pattern based and doing a no move dodge or fast attack in the middle of a slow enemy attack is great because you get some damage in without having to gently caress with the block strength bar.
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SirSamVimes posted:Obi Wan left his student missing all his limbs to die a slow and painful death choking on fumes on a lava planet. I don't know if we can call him a good person. I think he took it that Anakin was dead. e: actually I just youtubed it and he gives him a dressing down while anakin bursts into flames and keeps screaming lol. He probably should have given him a kick into the lava. JBP fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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The real Rule of Two: Always double-tap.
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ImpAtom posted:They land in water. Everywhere. No matter what Arkham Asylum-brand Saf-T-Water™ cushions impacts from any height and is hyper-oxygenated to prevent drowning! Guaranteed to preserve your hero's moral high ground
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Deep down I am 100% certain that a core part of Imperial training involves learning to do a ground-pound at the last second to negate fall damage.
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Jan 16, 2020 18:01
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The armour contains self-inflating emergency airbags, Snow Crash style.
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Captain Hygiene posted:Deep down I am 100% certain that a core part of Imperial training involves learning to do a ground-pound at the last second to negate fall damage. Stormtrooper Mario soundpack when
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Vinylshadow posted:Stormtrooper Mario soundpack when Now that's the kind of stuff I'd backtrack and 100% for.
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Captain Hygiene posted:Now that's the kind of stuff I'd backtrack and 100% for. Same energy Granted, you'd need a good six or seven different takes, but given how a lot of Star Wars games have [several minutes of voicelines solely dedicated to people screaming in terror, I guess that wouldn't be anything new
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Whoever said this feels like an Arkham Asylum that could lead to an Arkham City is dead on, it's fine and pretty strong in a lot of ways and has a lot of potential for a more expansive sequel. A lot of stuff feels disappointing though. The chest rewards for exploring the environments are just dogshit, endless new bits of lightsaber a player will probably never use or ponchos that broadly look a bit rubbish. The enemy variety is pretty lacking and it seems like less than maybe a third of them have some trick to beating them that feels satisfying, the rest are just doing the same actions and it feels almost random if I win without taking a hit or lose some healthbars. And playing the second hardest difficulty the boss lightsaber fights never felt skillful, it was always beating them by attrition or them having a weird specific weakness like Trilla has to Push. And no fast-travel is just bad in this, the environments are already a weird hodgepodge of different locales with arbitrary and unintuitive corridors between them, the no fast travel is 100% just whacking an extra hour-and-a-half on the average critical path playthrough.
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blackguy32 posted:I actually kind of like this. So much Star Wars ends with that kind of thing and its nice that they did something different. Oh, I absolutely like what they did with Cere/Trilla. That's why I said "strange/interesting." I'm just kind of surprised by it. In general the core plot/character beats of this game dramatically outperformed my expectations from a contemporary Star Wars video game.
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Been loving this game so far, just made the extremely dumb mistake of playing this on PC so after getting to the giant tree I'm now locked out because EA Origin was coded by a parrot and won't do a single thing.
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By far the best thing about the game is that there is relatively no penalty for falling to your death. I do it just for a laugh sometimes. The worst is the major lazy rear end cop out that pull and push are 2 different skills resulting in you having to back track for stupid poo poo
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McSpanky posted:Arkham Asylum-brand Saf-T-Water™ cushions impacts from any height and is hyper-oxygenated to prevent drowning! Guaranteed to preserve your hero's moral high ground Reminds me of that hilarious Minority Report video game that constantly has your character saying that you haven't killed anyone, yet you can beat the crap out of them and eventually chuck them off of buildings
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codo27 posted:By far the best thing about the game is that there is relatively no penalty for falling to your death. I do it just for a laugh sometimes. It's like 20% of your health on grandmaster, which made all the slide sequences and rope grabby bits frustrating as hell
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I'm gonna be v upset if I cant find a way to reach and fight that Binog
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I feel like Cal signed up for Jedi training primarily so he could more efficiently satisfy his lust to kill rare and endangered creatures.
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Captain Hygiene posted:I feel like Cal signed up for Jedi training primarily so he could more efficiently satisfy his lust to kill rare and endangered creatures. All the audience at the arena hears is Cal cackling madly as he effortlessly slaughters creature after creature, and then he gets mad when the Mantis shows up "Leave me here! I'm not done yet! I saw deathclaws in the pens below! BRING THEM TO ME, I NEED MORE BLOOD!"
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yes hmm the self appointed space cops going around horrifically murdering people in for "knowledge and defense" I see no problem with this
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Knowledge (of how to kill with a weaponized plasma torch) and defense (when people try to stop you) :smugyoda:
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hiddenriverninja posted:yes hmm the self appointed space cops going around horrifically murdering people in for "knowledge and defense" I see no problem with this nice parachute account Sheev
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