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Unkempt posted:Why the heck did they make it 1/60, that's not going to fit in with any of my stuff Buy a PG.
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Azza Bamboo posted:Assuming you only just got it, you're within your statutory rights to just return it. Yeah I imagine I'm going to have to but I'm so tired of this poo poo. I just want it dealt with and now I've gotta deal with everything all over again. I got home from work and it's taken 45 mind to come out of sleep mode and it's still not usable. How is a new computer this poo poo?
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Did it have to do a load of updates or something? the only laptop I ever owned was one I found in bin that ran windows ME.
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OwlFancier posted:Did it have to do a load of updates or something? the only laptop I ever owned was one I found in bin that ran windows ME. You should have left it there
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Niric posted:Yeah, this is a much more reasonable critique and I more or less agree with it all. I definitely don't want to give the impression that I think Starmer is a perfect candidate (or Nandy or Thornberry for that matter), but I am sceptical of RLB's pitch so far and pretty disillusioned with the way a lot of people on the left (both here and in meetings) knee kerk hate everyone who isn't her making your mind up over people when you've had prolonged exposure to them during, amongst other things, a general election campaign is actually the opposite of "knee-jerk", hth
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Unkempt posted:I made this a while back: Rarity posted:Turns out my new laptop is a piece of poo poo that freezes up every time its asked to do more than scroll down. I spent almost 400 quid on this The Deleter posted:This is the exact level of silly recursion I love, it's like that mini of a space marine painting Warhammer. OwlFancier posted:the only laptop I ever owned was one I found in bin that ran windows ME.
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Rarity posted:How is a new computer this poo poo? TBH low-end CPUs are still not appreciably faster than 2010-era high-end ones, quite often the other way around, depending on what you are doing with them. With laptops that's only compounded by the power limitations. Hard drives are basically the same story, and the low-end solid state drives are utter poo poo too (especially the ones that don't even officially qualify as SSDs, EMMC and the like, yes they do get put into laptops somehow). GPUs are another story but that's only really relevant for video playback, CAD and gaming. e: Looking it up the difference is actually mindboggling, the top-end 2010 CPU (Nehalem Core i7-995X, for about a thousand dollars) scores 9753 in CPUMark, whereas the low-end mainstream laptop current-gen Intel Celeron 4205U scores only 1977 points on the same test, that is almost 5 times slower. Granted that's comparing against the absolute top-end, but even your reasonable gamer 2010 Nehalem i7-900 series scores around 9000 on the same test. In fact even current-gen laptop i7 average only about 10k or so. (as per cpubenchmark.net) Private Speech fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jan 17, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:Did it have to do a load of updates or something? the only laptop I ever owned was one I found in bin that ran windows ME. It's almost certainly this. Assuming a base install of Windows 10 you've got something like 6 gigs of updates to download and install. Connect it to the charger, click the battery icon in the taskbar and crank the slider to "Best Perfomance" (if it's really base Windows 10 that might not be an option), then go to "Power and Sleep Settings" (click Start and start typing power, it'll come up eventually) and turn off sleep mode, then go to Windows Update (again, click Start and type update, it'll pop up), click on "Advanced Options" and turn "Restart this device as soon as possible" to "on". Then leave it alone for a while, overnight ideally, and come back to check whether or not it's finished updating and if that improves matters at all.
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Okay I've had this brewing for a while, it's not directed at anyone in particular or responding to any particular post, but some of the general thoughts that have been coming out of the thread this month (from good socialist posters whom I respect) have bordered on liberalism so I've just got to set out my thesis on the way forward for the labour movement (  incoming):We lost the election, mainly because of a deliberate campaign of targeted lies and very obviously dodgy social media campaigns funded by unknown sources, combined with the absolute monstering of Jeremy Corbyn. We can't fix the lies without being in power, and any good socialist candidate would be monstered in the same way. So the obvious solution (which I see more outside the thread than in - again, including from good socialists whom I respect) is to elect someone different. But that won't loving work. Let's look through our choices:
Well, if by "play the game" you mean "make everyone think you're a centrist until the last minute reveal" (an actual idea I've heard actual clever* people say irl), that's completely loving unworkable since it'd rely on literally every socialist seeing through the gimmick and everyone else having the wool pulled over their eyes. That's dumb. So, we'd have to be talking about a socialist firebrand. Someone who'll just tell the press to go gently caress themselves. Well, there's not so much objective evidence to speculate on this one from. The exact same poo poo that lost us the last election would still keep happening, but we'd have some tricks of our own to fight back with. They go low, we loving kerb stomp the cunts whilst they're down there. So we've probably got some gains on 2019 that way - but, there is no way that candidate would enjoy the grassroots support that Jez did. He might be hated, but he's also loved, the reason he was treated like a loving rock star everywhere was because he is just a god damned decent human being. So, we've got a lot of losses there from no longer having a rock star at the helm, plus some more from the liberals who held their nose and voted Labour to keep the fash out (yes, they do exist, I know a bunch). Some gains, some losses. Considering the scale by which we lost, however you work the calculus it looks pretty loving bad. So basically, we can't loving win. But, here we get to the bit that's been driving me crazy ITT recently: we are not loving liberal democrats**, Parliamentary democracy is not the only answer. If we can't win in the current political climate, change the political climate. Literally every time in history that lasting positive change has happened, it's been because of an organised working class in combination with a receptive mainstream political movement. We thought for a bit that we could do it with just the political movement, we gave it our best shot, but we were loving wrong, we need both. So yeah if we give up the Labour Party to the libs, it doesn't loving matter what we do because we're hosed. We need to keep a socialist in charge, any loving socialist, regardless of the fact that they can't win for now - but, keeping a socialist at the helm is not enough. Get active in the community. Start turning up to your trade union meetings and get people loving agitated. Beat up nazis. Join IWW, organise your workplace and gently caress up the bosses.*** Beat up nazis. If you're the less contentious type, work with foodbanks, homeless outreach, anything that gets people in the community working together as an economic class and united against the cunts (also, be more contentious!). loving anything to build class solidarity, win small victories that help people and show them that socialism loving works, so they tell their mates, do the same thing and the whole thing loving snowballs. And yeah it's easy to say "well that wasn't working before so why would it work now" - but, for one, it is literally the only thing that has ever worked, and it does work, it's just hard loving graft; and, things are very likely to go to poo poo very quickly with a literal fascist oligarch in number 10, not to mention the Brexit hand grenade, which is likely to make getting people angry a lot loving easier. Oh, and climate fascism is coming, that'll be fun! We just need to build the structures now, to make sure that the anger is directed where it belongs: the Tories. Then we can win an election, because the only response the Tories can give to that is brutal repression of the working class communities they've been winning off us with their lies, and the mask falls off. Boom, Tories unelectable, Labour government, social and economic reforms demonstrably making people's lives better, 1000 years of Jam communism. Don't mourn; organise. *in a sense **lower case ***PM me if you do this, I might know people in your area, and definitely PM me if you're doing this & have any legal expertise because I can use you
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Borrovan posted:Don't mourn; organise. This is a good post. I just want you to know that
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Rarity posted:Yeah I imagine I'm going to have to but I'm so tired of this poo poo. I just want it dealt with and now I've gotta deal with everything all over again. I got home from work and it's taken 45 mind to come out of sleep mode and it's still not usable. How is a new computer this poo poo? New laptops are also typically filled with lovely bloatware that you don't want or need. Go through the list of installed software and uninstall all the garbage that you don't need and set the rest to run when you open it, rather than on startup. Whenever I buy a new piece of hardware these days, the first hour is spent in a ruthless weeding session where I get rid of all the crap that comes pre-installed.
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Borrovan posted:Don't mourn; organise. Borrovan posted:[list][*]Someone who's a bit socialist on economic issues, but more of a """traditionalist""". gently caress that: if the British public are reactionary cunts, change the British public, don't loving become a reactionary oval office. Plus, it wouldn't work anyway, because if the people want to elect someone who's a bit of a fascist they'll just elect a loving fascist (again). Remember that chart of where people fall in the UK along a vaguely political spectrumish thing? I can't find it anywhere, but it shows a glut of people in the upper left, a fair few in authoritarian right and libertarian left, and like two confused sovereign citizens in the lib right. That came out before Brexit but it shows that there's a whole bunch of people (Brexit was their bread and butter) that loathe anything slightly Tory or Lib Dem, and support good common sense policies like nationalization of public services but probably believe that Corbyn was an enemy of the people because of reasons. They're the small end of the egg here, the ones inside of Leave but outside of party politics, and the immediate surrounds. They won't vote Tory but they might stay at home.  That's probably the types that Blair attempted to reach with tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime, but also the ones who got pissed off when the newspapers pointed out that Blair's new laws would also apply to them (and more importantly when everything kept getting worse economically). Is there anyway of reaching them without going fascist? What are their anchors other than "everything's too soft now" and "things are different which is bad"?
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Chuka Umana posted:I've been posting on and off since the election and I haven't been following the latest happenings in UKMT. Anyone notice a slowdown in the posts in this thread? Is it just the post-election blues or did some drama happen? Corbyn is going and suddenly UK politics are not that interesting anymore, with Corbyn I was hoping the UK could have been the start of something new that could spread. But now it's all kinda meh again.
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Rarity posted:Turns out my new laptop is a piece of poo poo that freezes up every time its asked to do more than scroll down. I spent almost 400 quid on this Probably full of bundled crap if new.
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OwlFancier posted:I don't think there's a social policy that can appeal to people who want the government to work for them alone, because that's logically impossible. The closest thing is white supremacism. Or "send all your kids into the army and up your pension because that's definitely how you, personally, won world war 2" Like the national renewal mythos of fascism (and brexits) has obvious appeal to someone whose main lived experience has been seeing every worthwhile industry in their town go to poo poo and be replaced by deliveroos, but socialism has good answers to that which don't involve camps, but need to be communicated in a way that hits home without pandering to regressiveness. Pilchenstein posted:Love that they describe the far right of the tory party as "pro-business" and not "pro-herding all the non-whites into a ditch and lighting them on fire", seems like an accurate portrayal.
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Guavanaut posted:Is there anyway of reaching them without going fascist? But, also they like the policies, but hate Corbyn - because of the monstering, so no there's not really any way to reach them via mainstream channels. We can reach them in the communities though. A more active, militant labour movement could point their hatred towards the real class enemies, and maybe if someone gets them the extra holiday pay they're after or whatever they'd start to see that actually maybe solidarity is a good thing. Don't move towards racists, show them why they should move to us. Sticker on the whiteboard in my office springs to mind: "it's not migrants driving down wages; it's your boss". Always gets a laugh out of my actual bosses when they notice it (offer not applicable to higher management, who I really hope never come into my office)
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Guavanaut posted:It's worth figuring out what can work before someone else does though, because there's plenty of easy things that would work but are terrible, and I'd much prefer not to be in the position of Horkheimer in the 40s trying to figure out exactly why everyone went fascist 10 years ago. That presumes they don't really care about loving up their preferred targets. Which, I mean, I care about that, so it seems reasonable that they would too? I sincerely want heads on pikes even if I worry about the collateral effects of the head-piking department. I'm not sure how, if at all, you can pitch to people who genuinely just want to spite everyone who isn't them and aren't worred about collateral damage.
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Those Watch pictures look confusing but intriguing. But maybe this loosely inspired by thing will work well, since it will definitely not look like what anyone had in their heads while reading books (because It’s not even trying to). Going Postal was good, but I still picture it the way I used to when I read it. Ms adequate, fair enough on Schiphol, I don’t have much experience changing there. The security situation has improved over the last few years, you don’t randomly encounter it a hallway anymore, with nothing behind it but a vending machine, as you say. It’s all out front now, but you do get fed through it if you’re changing planes and have come from a “bad scary country where we don’t trust them to do security properly” Speaking of which, my hotel room in Dubai has a toilet hose
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Borrovan posted:Imo theres 2 answers, both kind of implicit from your post: first, that was before Brexit, they're probably voting for Bozza worra lad nowadays. Borrovan posted:But, also they like the policies, but hate Corbyn - because of the monstering, so no there's not really any way to reach them via mainstream channels. We can reach them in the communities though. A more active, militant labour movement could point their hatred towards the real class enemies, and maybe if someone gets them the extra holiday pay they're after or whatever they'd start to see that actually maybe solidarity is a good thing. Don't move towards racists, show them why they should move to us.  just reads like word salad to me but evidently means something.Which was a big part of the attacks on Corbyn for being scruffy. You're right that the press will never give the left a fair hearing on this (they could have easily called Johnson scruffy and showed his wreath laying mishaps otherwise), but can the left work in an aesthetic battleground (which is different to "send up a socialist dressed as a liberal" or "go racist but not really")? Community is important too, but that's an uphill fight too in an increasingly atomized, curated, and individualized world in which all the community facilities are being aggressively targeted. If all your libraries and social clubs are closed, the only way you're going to find out why all your libraries and social clubs are closed is from the papers (in which case it's immigrants). OwlFancier posted:That presumes they don't really care about loving up their preferred targets. Which, I mean, I care about that, so it seems reasonable that they would too? I sincerely want heads on pikes even if I worry about the collateral effects of the head-piking department. I'm not sure how, if at all, you can pitch to people who genuinely just want to spite everyone who isn't them and aren't worred about collateral damage. Ms Adequate posted:Start guillotining people. 
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Guavanaut posted:Who are the preferred targets of the people in that upper left glut? Scroungers, media luvvies, and nonces all seem up there. A good program of proper jobs building new power stations and houses and creating a smaller nonce island on which to place Prince Andrew might be a start. Immigrants, lgbt people, women, men who they suspect of being one of the former three. Basically everyone who isn't exactly like them. Which the tories are 100% prepared to gently caress up to please those people, and the left should never be. Which puts us on the back foot when it comes to trying to appeal to people like that. The left has, correctly, become more inclusive over time as the working class does not abide by those boundaries and neither should we, but I think the thrust of the auth/trad left people is that they don't like that. And when push comes to shove, they will vote for the people who will fight the culture war because that matters more to them than anything else.
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Anyone any info on this Paul Mason, Keir Starmer smearing of RLB because she's a catholic? I can't seem to find any 'originating' stories just references in tweets. Also: Someone trying to make a business out of recording PIP claims. This MP is offering a kit for free from his office (ed deleted a bit I got wrong). (Recordings have to be on audio cassette or CD and a copy supplied to the assessor at the end). https://twitter.com/DanCardenMP/status/1218150750452420610?s=20 Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jan 17, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:Immigrants, lgbt people, women, men who they suspect of being one of the former three. Basically everyone who isn't exactly like them. Which the tories are 100% prepared to gently caress up to please those people, and the left should never be. Which puts us on the back foot when it comes to trying to appeal to people like that. The left has, correctly, become more inclusive over time as the working class does not abide by those boundaries and neither should we, but I think the thrust of the auth/trad left people is that they don't like that. And when push comes to shove, they will vote for the people who will fight the culture war because that matters more to them than anything else. There's some old Orthodox Marxists like that too, and a few terves, but I'm not sure how big the culture war effect is outside of that (unless there's a religious revival due anytime soon). There's also a bunch who end up repeating talking points from that lot over things that nobody else is talking about in a leftist framework. Like grooming gangs, the right and authoritarian middle were screaming about Muslims, the liberals were trying their best to ignore it, and nobody seemed to be picking up the thread of "men in the night-time economy". The biggest under-represented issues from the upper left all seem to be along the lines of caring about justice and "people getting away with things" so there's a big drum there to bang about economic justice without talking about bringing back the noose.
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So a load of my housemates might be moving out quite soon, if anyone needs a flat in London to rent in a few months just let me know!
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Anyone any info on this Paul Mason, Keir Starmer smearing of RLB because she's a catholic? It's specifically the "dictated by the vatican" bit here that has people (quite rightly) calling Paul Mason a oval office. Not heard anything about Starmer being involved though.
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Guavanaut posted:I'm convinced that once you move up to the lofty heights of The Authoritarians it's all mostly aesthetics anyway. Also, not sure you could cultivate a daddy dom image without losing support from actual leftists.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:There's something horrible on the BBC right now The Surrendered Wife stuff. I see it mainly in various groups I'm in where there are American women who either do bible study or are recent muslim converts, also some orthodox Jewish women I know. Don't often see it in British women of any religion so I hope it's not going to take hold here.
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My grandmother tried to kill my grandfather because he was immune to prosecution for marital rape so I'm not necessarily sure the 1950's were a great time to be married tbh.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:There's something horrible on the BBC right now *blows nose on tshirt while dual wielding cheesesteaks* Borrovan posted:Can you really appeal to these people's aesthetic sensibilities without careful cultivation by the media though? It's all bullshit anyway, not so much about how a person actually carries themselves so much as how the papers say they do. Johnson's a total loving doofus & yet people somehow think he's a strong leader type.
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Guavanaut posted:punchy three word slogans work, and simple messages work. What things can the left simplify that can survive a hostile press without mangling? 👏 Heads 👏 On 👏 Pikes 👏
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Oh I see. I thought there must be something more somewhere. It's more just people asking Starmer's campaign to distance themselves from Mason who has gone right off the deep end.
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RLB did say something a while back that she didn't think that disability should be an exception to the 24 week abortion limit, which is pretty medically bad (unless she meant scrap the 24 week limit in general), which has set a bunch of people off. She also said it was a strictly personal view though. I'm slightly suspect how well you can separate those from politics, given how Corbyn voted against a bunch of death with dignity bills because of similarly personal views, but phrasing it as if she's got a hotline to Pope Paul is suspect.
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