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Lemon posted:I'm looking for games to scratch a particular itch that I can't quite define. Sort of... Simulation/Management/RPGs? They present you with a world made up of sytems of varying degrees of complexity and you are given a lot of freedom in how you choose to interact with and affect this world. Regardless of how sophisticated the simulation actually is, it needs to present a persistent world that is ticking along by itself, with or without you interfering. I prefer ones where the gameplay is menu-based, rather than actually controlling individual characters. Another important part is being left to figure some things out by yourself; you're given the information on how things work and then it's up to you to decide what to do. Some examples of games that have hit this mark (or not) would probably make it clearer: The Guild, only the first one since the sequels veer a bit too heavily into character babysitting territory. There's also a game in early access called Saelig that seems to be trying to recreate what The Guild was doing. Uncharted Waters: New Horizons Kerbal Space Program Factorio Hacknet is currently the hack-like closest to Uplink I think
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Lemon posted:all have you playing as one person at a time[...] Dwarf Fortress, etc don't scratch this particular itch for me because of this.
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Jan 17, 2020 20:01
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1) Are the Legacy of Kain games worth a try if I never played them? 2) Which one would be a good start?
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Jan 18, 2020 06:48
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FeastForCows posted:1) Are the Legacy of Kain games worth a try if I never played them? Soul Reaver is pretty solid, has a surprisingly good PC port for its era if you don't have a PS1 handy, and the intro catches you up on the cliff notes of the series up till that point. e: they're not amazing but you could do a lot worse as sort of actiony, gothic Zelda clones go Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jan 18, 2020 |
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Jan 18, 2020 06:52
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The first Soul Reaver is still a classic. Heads up that you're going to need Controller Companion or some other gamepad remapper to use a controller on PC.
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Jan 18, 2020 07:36
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Thanks for the suggestions! Just downloaded Hacknet and I've got Objects in Space, Academagia and Saelig in my wishlist. Also got Starsector earmarked.
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Jan 18, 2020 19:52
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Lemon posted:Thanks for the suggestions! Just downloaded Hacknet and I've got Objects in Space, Academagia and Saelig in my wishlist. Also got Starsector earmarked. Leave the Tutorial areas for farther systems after you get your 'obvious tutorial mission NPC string' paydays. Because unless they changed things, the "Starter" zones have the highest docking fees in the entire game. It's also why even if you take out a loan, getting a jump drive ASAP is worth it to remove jump gate fees on top. So you'd end up in situations like "okay it's $40 to deliver these apples, and $180 for this other job. Now to pay $100 to leave this statiom, $60 for the jump gate, and then $70 to leave my destination station." While distant systems had fees more like $30. The Devs did try to smooth things out there, but it's also the sort of game where the devs didn't notice missions were not paying anything after one patch because of "You just need to play the game smarter! If anything I think fees should cost more!" types  and everyone was just used to taking a loss after stacking three missions just being A Thing That Happens in the early game due to the above.That said, it's also beautiful when everything comes together. Like when you silent running drift off to safety through a net of mission triggered cops that were already after you the moment you launched  The core sales pitch of "Sumbarine space ships" was nailed amazingly. Just be aware the economy side can be a little iffy unless you know the game's quirks. The game really opens up in obsessively managing your power vs emissions once you get over that early hump.Fake EDIT: ah, right. Submarine gameplay reminds me. The game beats you over the head with how important "Hide in the blue nebulas. Red and purple nebulas are bad." is. You start the game in a tiny pod with a full color display. On of the leading newbie questions was "Why are blue nebula killing me?" because the first real space ship you get, came with a monochrome "Everything is blue" UI component. So I started yanking the full color UI component out of the pod to buy back for my ship. I think the pod also came with an above average FCS? But swiping that that felt like cheating compared to "There, I fixed the UI". Section Z fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Jan 19, 2020 |
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Jan 19, 2020 04:22
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I'm looking for some 2D platformers that focus on combat and tight character control/movesets over pits-and-spikes platforming. I love learning boss patterns and getting used to the choreography of a tough encounter. Some 16-bit era examples of this are things like Shinobi III and Contra: Hard Corps as well as almost anything by Treasure. Some Metroidvanias do this well too, although I've played most of the big ones. Any recommendations for this sort of title? I'm game for pretty much anything post 8-bit era. Bonus for 'duel bosses' - think the Zangetsu fights from Bloodstained, for example.
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Jan 19, 2020 05:25
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Hollow Knight is the obvious recommendation. You might also check Bleed and Bleed 2, Broforce, and Momodora: Reverie under the Moonlight. There's also things like playing Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin with the level cap modifier (e.g. Hard Mode Level 1), which makes it so the vast majority of enemies one-shot you unless you use a particular piece of armor that makes all hits deal 10% of your max HP.
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Jan 19, 2020 05:46
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ReWinter posted:I'm looking for some 2D platformers that focus on combat and tight character control/movesets over pits-and-spikes platforming. I love learning boss patterns and getting used to the choreography of a tough encounter. The Messenger is pretty much a love letter to 8 bit and 16 bit platformers. I enjoyed my time with it.
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Jan 19, 2020 06:47
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What is the best open space game out these days? The privateer/freelancer type trade/fight/whatever style. The X games were good but not really for me; I was OK with the combat and all but when it came to making a fleet and deploying space stations and creating supply routes and poo poo it got out of hand and I fell behind, so something where I can just focus on being a single guy with a single ship that I can kit out/upgrade/replace as needed is what fits me best. I know that Elite : Dangerous is still going strong, but I heard that rebel galaxy (or something like that) was gonna be a good one too, wondering if there's others I don't know about or if any of them flopped or whatever. khy fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Jan 19, 2020 |
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Jan 19, 2020 08:01
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Rebel Galaxy Outlaw is like Privateer but with the cruft shaved off, everything is real fast and feels good.
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Jan 19, 2020 08:43
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kirbysuperstar posted:Rebel Galaxy Outlaw is like Privateer but with the cruft shaved off, everything is real fast and feels good. Gotcha. How about E:D? I know it's a bit old but is it still going strong? And is it more single ship focused or is it similar to the X series where you start out small but endgame is massive and fleets and all that?
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khy posted:Gotcha. How about E:D? I know it's a bit old but is it still going strong? And is it more single ship focused or is it similar to the X series where you start out small but endgame is massive and fleets and all that? Don't get into E:D. The company running it can't do anything correctly and are incompetent to the point of hilarity. Their most recent patch, earlier in the week, succeeded in fixing exactly nothing it was supposed to. Instead, it broke literally everything they said they were fixing, and then it broke some other, unrelated stuff as well.
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Jan 19, 2020 11:34
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ReWinter posted:I'm looking for some 2D platformers that focus on combat and tight character control/movesets over pits-and-spikes platforming. I love learning boss patterns and getting used to the choreography of a tough encounter. Dead Cells https://store.steampowered.com/app/588650/Dead_Cells/  Axiom Verge https://store.steampowered.com/app/332200/Axiom_Verge/  Gensokyo Night Festival https://store.steampowered.com/app/1122050/Gensokyo_Night_Festival/  Noitu Love 2 https://store.steampowered.com/app/207530/Noitu_Love_2_Devolution/ it's a criminally obscure solo platformer made by one person, inspired by the likes of gunstar heroes, and is five bucks on steam 
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ShootaBoy posted:Don't get into E:D. The company running it can't do anything correctly and are incompetent to the point of hilarity. Their most recent patch, earlier in the week, succeeded in fixing exactly nothing it was supposed to. Instead, it broke literally everything they said they were fixing, and then it broke some other, unrelated stuff as well. I'll agree with the "Don't get into E:D" but for a different reason. The ship simulator portion is, for the most part, excellent. The flight model, docking, ship interactions, mining, planets, all of it is outstanding. But there is just no game there. It's been the single largest complaint since release, and they just refuse to put anything in there to compel us to keep playing.
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Any suggestions for JRPGs on Steam that have interesting settings? I started playing Trails after tons of people saying it's great and while the game itself is pretty okay so far the story and setting and characters are so generic and bland. I also tried one of the highly acclaimed Tales Of games a while ago and bouncing hard off of that as well, anything with knights and castles makes my eyes glaze over (except DQ for some reason).
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Jan 19, 2020 18:24
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garfield hentai posted:Any suggestions for JRPGs on Steam that have interesting settings? I started playing Trails after tons of people saying it's great and while the game itself is pretty okay so far the story and setting and characters are so generic and bland. I also tried one of the highly acclaimed Tales Of games a while ago and bouncing hard off of that as well, anything with knights and castles makes my eyes glaze over (except DQ for some reason). Ara Fell. It's elves vs. vampires on a floating island in the sky with very good writing.
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ReWinter posted:I'm looking for some 2D platformers that focus on combat and tight character control/movesets over pits-and-spikes platforming. I love learning boss patterns and getting used to the choreography of a tough encounter. Copy Kitty is a criminally overlooked game that is basically Kirby 64 meets a treasure game. garfield hentai posted:Any suggestions for JRPGs on Steam that have interesting settings? I started playing Trails after tons of people saying it's great and while the game itself is pretty okay so far the story and setting and characters are so generic and bland. I also tried one of the highly acclaimed Tales Of games a while ago and bouncing hard off of that as well, anything with knights and castles makes my eyes glaze over (except DQ for some reason). You've played Lisa, right? I've also heard that Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass is very good, though I haven't played it myself. If you haven't played them, Off and Space Funeral are both fantastic if short freeware RPGs.
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garfield hentai posted:Any suggestions for JRPGs on Steam that have interesting settings? I started playing Trails after tons of people saying it's great and while the game itself is pretty okay so far the story and setting and characters are so generic and bland. I also tried one of the highly acclaimed Tales Of games a while ago and bouncing hard off of that as well, anything with knights and castles makes my eyes glaze over (except DQ for some reason). A whole bunch of the Atelier series was just released on Steam.
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Jan 19, 2020 18:40
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If you're OK with Dragon Quest, then Brave Hero Yuusha might also be good. It starts off looking just like DQ2 but it goes places.
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Trick Question posted:You've played Lisa, right? I've also heard that Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass is very good, though I haven't played it myself. If you haven't played them, Off and Space Funeral are both fantastic if short freeware RPGs. I've played most of these but Off is new to me and looks good as hell Hwurmp posted:A whole bunch of the Atelier series was just released on Steam. I've heard good things about these games but there's so many of them I have no god drat clue where to start
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garfield hentai posted:I've heard good things about these games but there's so many of them I have no god drat clue where to start Probably either Ayesha, Lydie & Suelle, or Ryza.
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Jan 19, 2020 18:47
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I just got a big computer upgrade, but I'm still mainly playing Fallout 4 and Civilization 5. What are some beautiful games with cool physics to check out with my new hardware? I love large-scale battles and interesting destruction physics. (32 gigs of RAM, i7-8700, RTX-2070)
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Chamale posted:I just got a big computer upgrade, but I'm still mainly playing Fallout 4 and Civilization 5. What are some beautiful games with cool physics to check out with my new hardware? I love large-scale battles and interesting destruction physics. The Total War series comes immediately to mind when you speak of large scale battles. Total War Three Kingdoms is the latest, but Total War Warhammer II is good as well.
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Trick Question posted:You've played Lisa, right? I've also heard that Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass is very good, though I haven't played it myself. If you haven't played them, Off and Space Funeral are both fantastic if short freeware RPGs. hey i think im about halfway through off right now and just wanted to say thanks for the Off recc because this kind of thing is basically exactly what i was looking for and insanely my poo poo
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Chamale posted:I just got a big computer upgrade, but I'm still mainly playing Fallout 4 and Civilization 5. What are some beautiful games with cool physics to check out with my new hardware? I love large-scale battles and interesting destruction physics. Control!
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I'm looking for a game that fits the description of "chill building and exploration" I've been playing a ton of No Man's Sky and have been really enjoying the base building aspect, but have found it to be too rudimentary. I've created some megastructure monstrosities but it all feels kind of pointless since they don't really do anything to further me in the game. I've previously had this itch scratched by Stardew Valley, but I've done everything on that, and by "Kittens Game" on Android. I tried getting into Minecraft, but the voxel style is incredibly unappealing. I also tried Terraria, but it was too platformer and I dropped out when it got to be stressful to proceed. I've poked around and heard good things about Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Factorio, and Astroneer, but it's kinda hard to tell how much each game qualifies for the "chill" part and how much actual exploration each offers. Also, not sure if there's ones I'm missing. Thoughts?
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Azathoth posted:I've poked around and heard good things about Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Factorio, and Astroneer, but it's kinda hard to tell how much each game qualifies for the "chill" part and how much actual exploration each offers. Also, not sure if there's ones I'm missing. Rimworld would need extensive modding to make it chill, as it is not chill at all. Survival and enemies are rough. Oxygen Not Included is the least chill game (but very good). Factorio can get CRAZY indepth with your building, and you can turn off enemies so I would recommend it. Never played Astroneer. Rimworld, ONI and Factorio do not feature exploration. Minecraft sounds exactly like what you want. Can you find a shader pack or graphic mod to make it look better for you?
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How about Dragon Quest Builders 2? The terrain is kinda blocky for the most part but that's about it. e: I suppose it's not the chillest until you beat story mode, haven't gone that far in but heard there's a couple very unchill sections later on
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Subnautica is like 90% chill, 10% pants-making GBS threads terror. It's great. I think there's even a creative mode that's just the chill part, but it might feel a little aimless.
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If I take out the exploration part and just ask for "chill building game", is there anything better than Factorio with enemies off?
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Astroneer is the most chill of all of those, but there's not really as much building.
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ONI has exploration unless you cheat and reveal everything. Astroneer has as much building as you want, I've seen some spectacular bases, really incredible. https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....letterbox=false There's plenty of chill building games including Factory Town, Autonauts, and Craft the World. Come join us over at the Management Megathread thread
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Mayveena posted:ONI has exploration unless you cheat and reveal everything. Astroneer has as much building as you want, I've seen some spectacular bases, really incredible. Thanks for this, and thanks to the other folks who chimed in!
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Azathoth posted:I'm looking for a game that fits the description of "chill building and exploration"
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Pierzak posted:Unreal World, but I'm pretty sure it's not the kind of chill you're looking for. It'll definitely make any building and exploring feel like an actual accomplishment, though!
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Azathoth posted:I'm looking for a game that fits the description of "chill building and exploration" You want a mod for Minecraft called Life In the Woods: Renaissance. It runs on an older vesion of Java minecraft but will be more than enough for any exploration related needs. It adds 80+ biomes, nearly a thousand new items and blocks, reimagines The Nether, etc. It also adds some extremely nice shader options to give dynamic lighting, shadows, sunbeams, water effects, the whole nine yards. I have put thousands of hours into it at this point, if you want chill exploration, it is 100% what you're after. I recommend grabbing a compatible copy of Xaero's minimap and worldmap, currently at work so I can't link the pages but I'm sure the pages that show up on Google have compatible archived versions as well. Here is an imgur gallery I made a while ago with a bunch of screenshots: Life in the Woods https://imgur.com/gallery/yD2DVnp Here's a couple examples, the island below was surrounded by MASSIVE oceans, ringed around its outer edge by volcanoes and in the center of it were mangroves and a small rainforest. But the sight of it appearing on the horizon in the middle of the night, illuminated by lava, was a real sight.  
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I will second Dragon Quest Builders 2. It is a very chill experience, and has a massive 8 hour + demo so you can try before you buy.
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