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Seems like Jess Phillips is basically setting up for the fact that the media are lapping up Lisa Nandy instead of her I am really puzzled by Jess Phillips motivations here - she basically seems to be going out of her way to antagonise the Labour membership, which would make sense if he wants to continue her media grift. But it seems like she actually wants power at some point? In which case it really does seem like she bought into her own hype and is now facing the consequences
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MikeCrotch posted:Seems like Jess Phillips is basically setting up for the fact that the media are lapping up Lisa Nandy instead of her Of course she's bought her own hype, she's exposed to nothing else. She has zero clue that it's NOT just hype.
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Pesky Splinter posted:I meant in the sense of 40 secs to answer a question - but it's clear why that's there - too easy to waffle on otherwise. And yeah, the actual election is the important thing, it's just amusing to see her flub it - even though she's clearly doing this to boost her profile rather than having any actual expectations of winning. I don't know if that's true, honestly. Flips was doing pretty well boosting her profile without running for leader, and while it's plausible that the fawning profiles will evaporate now that there's no need to undermine Corbyn*, jumping into a leadership contest you don't think you can win is a gamble, profile-wise. Burnham and Cooper managed to come out of 2015 looking like contenders that got beat; Kendall was a joke. If Flips polls at current numbers all this contest is going to do is cement her as a fringe loon. I figure she genuinely thought she had a shot. Just wildly misread the tea leaves. *Though I'm not seeing the press forgoing the undermining of RLB or even Starmer. MikeCrotch posted:In which case it really does seem like she bought into her own hype and is now facing the consequences Yeah, that. e: I've just been informed of this option in the settings that colours posts you've already seen blue and it's wild.
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MikeCrotch posted:Seems like Jess Phillips is basically setting up for the fact that the media are lapping up Lisa Nandy instead of her It boosts her profile. And from her perspective, it's win-win to go for it. If she gets 0.00% of the votes, she goes back to the back benches and continues to be a wrecker/prop up the Tories/assist the labour melts. There's also always the slim prospect of a cabinet seat if one of the melts gets in. Or an authenticrat rent-a-gob when the press come calling (while also letting her know she's at their mercy for coverage). And if she (somehow) wins, then she'll openly attempt to reverse the last four years and bring the party back to Sensible Grownup CentrismTM...while also aiding and abetting the Tories. But just with a sad face drawn on in marker. KOGAHAZAN!! posted:I don't know if that's true, honestly. Flips was doing pretty well boosting her profile without running for leader, and while it's plausible that the fawning profiles will evaporate now that there's no need to undermine Corbyn*, jumping into a leadership contest you don't think you can win is a gamble, profile-wise. Burnham and Cooper managed to come out of 2015 looking like contenders that got beat; Kendall was a joke. If Flips polls at current numbers all this contest is going to do is cement her as a fringe loon. This is true. I'm just trying to think of it from the perspective of someone presenting themselves as an egotist, rather than an actual egotist themselves...although if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck - just me overthinking 
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Red Oktober posted:Just been sent a job spec for ‘Director of UK Exit’ for HMRC. Firstly - vaguely concerning they’ve only started recruiting this position today, and secondly: not a mention of the B-word anywhere in the job description. Clearly going hard on this BREXIT IS DONE ON 31 JAN message. If this was anyone but the Tories in general and Boris in specific, I'd be thinking that they were going with the "technically we left but" strategy. But because it is, I think they just don't want to do the work, consequences be damned.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:Hey Llamas, so did you end drinking alone with Tim on Saturday? lol if so. No, Val and a couple others too.
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Seriously, though, this isn't the first time we've seen a poorly-concealed narcissist in Labour. Jess is just another Chuka.
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IrvingWashington posted:UKMT Solidarity and Support Fund Committee Membership Voting Results Well this seems like a sane and sensible committee A question for the tech nerds of the thread, what's a secure communication medium we can use for sensitive discussion that may involve people's private data? WhatsApp was our first idea but lol Facebook. Signal and Telegram have also been suggested. I know the most secure services will delete your messages after a time but it would be useful to have logging feature for at least some conversations.
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Maugrim posted:Well this seems like a sane and sensible committee e: Darth Walrus posted:For anyone who wasn't sure, because we do live in hellworld, his timeline makes it pretty clear that this is sarcasm.
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Darth Walrus posted:For anyone who wasn't sure, because we do live in hellworld, his timeline makes it pretty clear that this is sarcasm. https://twitter.com/ShoaibMKhan/status/1218109137520857088
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Maugrim posted:A question for the tech nerds of the thread, what's a secure communication medium we can use for sensitive discussion that may involve people's private data? WhatsApp was our first idea but lol Facebook. Signal and Telegram have also been suggested. I know the most secure services will delete your messages after a time but it would be useful to have logging feature for at least some conversations. Signal good, Telegram less so Of course Telegram is a zillion times more widely used, because lol hell dimension, but yeah
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Jess Phillips angling for an LBC gig after this is all over. Maybe she can co-host with her bff MoggRarity posted:Nah she was always very pretty, I just did not have my poo poo together at all at that time at least now you know how to make her perfect sandwich!
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We're going to be punished... bad things are in the pipeline because the English couldn't resist their cultural urge to vote for an inbred, tory government Will any of us survive
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As humans the majority of us will survive but the question is whether socialist thinking will go back to the fringes after having spent five years at the core of a major party.
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Ash Crimson posted:We're going to be punished... bad things are in the pipeline because the English couldn't resist their cultural urge to vote for an inbred, tory government
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baka kaba posted:Jess Phillips angling for an LBC gig after this is all over. Maybe she can co-host with her bff Mogg See this is the thing - I get that she's getting all this publicity and could turn it into something, but her entire career she's been talking about what a great leader she'd be and how she dreamed of being prime minister since she was a kid. The more it carries on the more I think she is a true believer in her own cause.
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Anyone with FT access got that interview Javid did the other day where he says "forget EU alignment it's not happening" and lectures businesses that they've had three years to prepare so they should be ready by now, for y'know, whateverMikeCrotch posted:See this is the thing - I get that she's getting all this publicity and could turn it into something, but her entire career she's been talking about what a great leader she'd be and how she dreamed of being prime minister since she was a kid. The more it carries on the more I think she is a true believer in her own cause. yeah but she knows it's not happening (and I'll drop that truth bomb too bab, no matter what the suits upstairs want) so I could see her pivoting into a job where she just gets to have hot takes and be the straight talking truth teller with nothing to actually say. Like I mean "this hustings format is not great... oh was that too much truth for you??" this is just sad baka kaba fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/nehashah_/status/1219285616711602176?s=20 This sucks from Rayner. I can see what she's driving at but if anything, better education about how we were such total shits during the times of colonialism and empire should be part of political education, and help end all this loving racism and xenophobia. E: Unrelated: https://twitter.com/earthygirl011/status/1218981276964786181?s=20 WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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I dunno, if she'd said "the British empire" then I could see her having a complaint, but "colonialism" sounds like actual critical study and I don't know why you'd push that as a bad thing. If she'd said "we teach about colonialism but we also need to educate about our domestic political system" fine but that just sounded like a daily mail comment Why is everyone so hyped on Rayner anyway? I know she's been in the shadow cabinet a while and she's done some good speeches and the like, but people were talking about her like she's the natural choice and maybe even should be leader, and I don't know why especially? I know she was ready to deck Farage on national tv but other than that...?
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baka kaba posted:Anyone with FT access got that interview Javid did the other day where he says "forget EU alignment it's not happening" and lectures businesses that they've had three years to prepare so they should be ready by now, for y'know, whatever Here you go. First of a few complete rollbacks post election. FT posted:Sajid Javid, the UK chancellor, has delivered a tough message to business leaders to end their campaign for Britain to stay in lock-step with Brussels rules after Brexit, telling them they have already had three years to prepare for a new trading relationship.
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Ash Crimson posted:We're going to be punished... bad things are in the pipeline because the English couldn't resist their cultural urge to vote for an inbred, tory government I mean, in the end, none of us will survive. What matters is what we do in between.
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baka kaba posted:I dunno, if she'd said "the British empire" then I could see her having a complaint, but "colonialism" sounds like actual critical study and I don't know why you'd push that as a bad thing. Yeah combined with her "me too"ing a black MPs post about racism in the HoC the other day, plus her thing ages ago about "white working class boys" or whatever it was... it's not looking good. I think people are hype about her because she's a young, Northern woman who isn't from the usual MP pipeline of private school->connections->MP, and she can get fired up about stuff. Honestly I think it's a bit of the same thing that Starmer's got going on - she's a "personality", and she does have working class credentials, but I'm not convinced by what's seemingly under the surface.
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Has anyone here read Political Parties by Michels or Union Democracy by Lipset et al? After reading 3 Clancy books consecutively I'm looking for something a little less light & exceedingly stupid and I came across these and they seem interesting but wondering how readable they are to someone who doesn't have a degree in sociology.
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WhatEvil posted:https://twitter.com/nehashah_/status/1219285616711602176?s=20 Like wonder in an honest question way. Because if you'd believe some of these people then history class in 2020 is nothing but this on repeat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx7m96RdeXU And while I can think of worse things it really doesn't chime at all with my experience of history in school. The Empire was "oh it spanned all these countries in pink which is why there are Asian kids here isn't multiculturalism great?" in primary and "check out all these countries that willingly helped us in WW2" in secondary plus getting into an argument over Britain's concentration camps in Africa. There was nothing on how hosed up colonialism/imperialism in general was, or how it continues today. On the counter, there was also very little about working class history, the Midlands food riots, Peterloo, Chartism, Merthyr Rising, etc. weren't mentioned, only that things generally sucked rear end to be working class in the Victorian Era and everyone got cholera. On balance I probably learned more of the "the British came here and they cut off our heads" side of history during school from my Irish English teacher's selection of texts. It wasn't a waste overall though, because I did learn about source analysis, dissecting bias, forming an argument, and all that good stuff that should be applied in general life. (Which might be why I find it highly unlikely that white boys are doing worse at school because they're constantly told they're the source of the world's ills, rather than that they've never had to build up the kind of ad hoc support networks around the African-Caribbean Centre or the Gurdwara that other people have.)
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Venomous posted:UK crisp thread, I require your assistance: 1. No 2. It’s correct and is fully endorsed by the podcast Rarity posted:I had the chance to date this girl and now she's really hot fml And after finding out she likes the podcasts unanimously approved monster munch too  Ash Crimson posted:We're going to be punished... bad things are in the pipeline because the English couldn't resist their cultural urge to vote for an inbred, tory government Examine your own backyard before greeting about the neighbour’s, gently caress sake. Pilchenstein posted:If death means not having to read your loving posts I'm ready tbh  Also, thank you for the extremely good post that I haven’t quoted Borrovan, I really enjoyed it and it’s going to chime well with some points on the podcast. Speaking of the pod, the promised Star Wars episode has been recorded and quite obviously is later than expected in coming out. I’m hoping to have it edited and released on Wednesday night. Sorry for the delay folks!
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Guavanaut posted:School history lessons replacing all white boys with "little white cuck balls", reporter alleges. "Different ethnic races as stormtroopers!? More like SJWtroopers!"  "It's not believable that a woman can use space magic without training" "Real diversity in Stars wars is more aliens. not black people!" And so on, and much more worse. Truly a wretched hive of scum and villainy. --- Unrelated: https://twitter.com/GdnPolitics/status/1218971900732309504 
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Red Oktober posted:Here you go. First of a few complete rollbacks post election. ta bab quote:Asked how regulatory divergence might impact industries such as automotive and pharmaceuticals with intricate supply chains spanning Europe, Mr Javid said: “Japan sells cars to the EU but they don’t follow EU rules.” this fuckin guy WhatEvil posted:Yeah combined with her "me too"ing a black MPs post about racism in the HoC the other day, plus her thing ages ago about "white working class boys" or whatever it was... it's not looking good. yeah I think the me too thing was meant to be a joke, but it was tone deaf to just say that on twitter. RLB has the same credentials though so I was wondering why people were pushing for Rayner over her, maybe it's just the personality difference like you say and people wanted more of a firebrand
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