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Anyone considering further participation in this derail are going to want to do so with extreme caution, all right? I'm all for people getting eddicated and Doing Better, but this has the potential to go badly.
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While we're at it, "guys" and "dudes" are not gender neutral ways to address a group. Especially when knowingly addressing a group of trans people.
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Six-Of-Hearts posted:While we're at it, "guys" and "dudes" are not gender neutral ways to address a group. Especially when knowingly addressing a group of trans people. While we are at it, being a jerk to someone asking questions in order to learn and be better towards people is a real dick move.
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Six-Of-Hearts posted:While we're at it, "guys" and "dudes" are not gender neutral ways to address a group. Especially when knowingly addressing a group of trans people. If someone ever asked me not to use it in reference to them, I would avoid it, but my point is I don't think it's a hard and fast rule for everyone, because I've never met someone of any walk of life who preferred not to be included in a group that way, even when the group was entirely women.
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500excf type r posted:While we are at it, being a jerk to someone asking questions in order to learn and be better towards people is a real dick move. That's nice, dear. I'm glad you were able to get whatever tone you wanted out of my post. Vib Rib posted:I don't think this is a very universal rule. "Dudes", maybe, sure, but in my group of friends including women who are both cis and trans and we all frequently refer to each other with "hey guys" pretty casually. Maybe it's regional, or just dependent on use? I wouldn't call them "a bunch of guys" for instance, but saying "thanks guys" or "guys, listen" is very common. It may not be as big a thing as "dudes" but it's still largely A Thing with a lot of trans women. Queen-Of-Hearts has a new favorite as of 18:45 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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500excf type r posted:While we are at it, being a jerk to someone asking questions in order to learn and be better towards people is a real dick move.  Didn't think anybody was bein' a jerk to ya but okay, you do you. E: Vib Rib posted:I don't think this is a very universal rule. Nah, maybe not universal to you, but FC got this earlier in something short and poetic: Fatty Crabcakes posted:The grammatical arguments have been made, so I'll cover the other reason: someone asked you not to and that's really all you need to know. and SoH got another followup for your clarification Six-Of-Hearts posted:It may not be as big a thing as "dudes" but it's still largely A Thing with a lot of trans women. So I think that's covered? Queen Combat has a new favorite as of 18:50 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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500excf type r posted:While we are at it, being a jerk to someone asking questions in order to learn and be better towards people is a real dick move. Also, try to consider how many times people use jUsT aSkInG qUeStiOnS as a segue to being a total hamsterfucker to us and maybe you'll be a lil less goddamn delicate. Now go put some lotion on your wiw tushie rash and let the subject die.
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https://twitter.com/scienceshitpost/status/1217988794953003008
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Six-Of-Hearts posted:While we're at it, "guys" and "dudes" are not gender neutral ways to address a group. Especially when knowingly addressing a group of trans people. What about "youse guys" in a thick jersey accent?
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Me, addressing a crowd: My fellow motherfuckers,
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christmas boots posted:What about "youse guys" in a thick jersey accent? just gotta leave it at youse "y'all" solved this problem hundreds of years ago but this is all great water cooler talk y'all, unfortunately I think I'm going to have to go back over what an adjective is first
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christmas boots posted:What about "youse guys" in a thick jersey accent? Does it pre-empt directions to a restaurant?
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I thought that was implied
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Screaming Idiot posted:Me, addressing a crowd: My fellow motherfuckers,
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Fatty Crabcakes posted:I prefer the more formal "What up, sluts?" Gender-neutral and sex positive. I like it.
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How am I supposed to let people know that it's Wednesday without calling them dudes?
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Getting "folks" into my core vocab has been a bit of a chore but it's been worth it
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christmas boots posted:I thought that was implied So the two of you's are gonna hang a left at the light and shoot on down Pulaski about tree blocks. You'll see the big sign with the kid in the straw hat wit' the fishing' pole, can't miss it. Hey and uh, send my love to ya ma, yeah?
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Six-Of-Hearts posted:It may not be as big a thing as "dudes" but it's still largely A Thing with a lot of trans women. Queen Combat posted:Nah, maybe not universal to you, but FC got this earlier in something short and poetic
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I added "people" because I'm somewhat familiar with the way that whole derail went but clearly didn't need to add the "-ed" my bad, move on
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Fatty Crabcakes posted:I prefer the more formal "What up, sluts?" Push El Burrito posted:How am I supposed to let people know that it's Wednesday without calling them dudes? It is Wednesday my sluts.
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Bobby Digital posted:It is Wednesday my sluts. I got excited and looked at the calendar and it's not even Wednesday  FFT posted:I added "people" because I'm somewhat familiar with the way that whole derail went but clearly didn't need to add the "-ed" Queen Combat has a new favorite as of 22:53 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Push El Burrito posted:How am I supposed to let people know that it's Wednesday without calling them dudes? Wardrobe 
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‘Dude is gender-neutral’ is the hill I’ll die on
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hawowanlawow posted:just gotta leave it at youse Getting rid of "thou" is the reason for all this modern grammatical difficulty.
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Elviscat posted:Getting rid of "thou" is the reason for all this modern grammatical difficulty. Yeah all the other words we use instead seem to be full of holes in comparison.
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I default to “homies”
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It's like you fuckers don't remember Good Burger smh I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude....Cause we're all dudes! Hey!
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Scratch Monkey posted:I default to “homies” Exclusionary toward my homeless dudes
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So, how's the fun, jolly IOSM thread doing these da-
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tgacon posted:‘Dude is gender-neutral’ is the hill I’ll die on
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Katt posted:Someone made a Karen bot. Just steering one-handed on this entrance ramp as I whip out my phone and take a photo of a car that merged safely.
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I think only Chef Excellence is allowed to use that.
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