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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:I think my favorite thing about the Mad Max game is how it leans into the mystical aspect of the series. There's an environment you end up traversing several times; an airport sunken into the sand. When you drive to it for the first time for story reasons, Max recognizes the place and says, "Ah, it's an airport." Chumbucket, the mechanic gremlin dude who rides on top of Max's car, goes, "What's an airport?" One of the collectible photos is of a Mad Max themed ride or park or something, which was delightfully meta.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:I think my favorite thing about the Mad Max game is how it leans into the mystical aspect of the series. There's an environment you end up traversing several times; an airport sunken into the sand. When you drive to it for the first time for story reasons, Max recognizes the place and says, "Ah, it's an airport." Chumbucket, the mechanic gremlin dude who rides on top of Max's car, goes, "What's an airport?" I like to think that after it all went to poo poo, pockets of knowledge became really specialized. Max is a touch different since he's a nomad. Chum never had to learn what an airport is because he never encountered one before.
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Jan 20, 2020 23:33
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:I think my favorite thing about the Mad Max game is how it leans into the mystical aspect of the series. There's an environment you end up traversing several times; an airport sunken into the sand. When you drive to it for the first time for story reasons, Max recognizes the place and says, "Ah, it's an airport." Chumbucket, the mechanic gremlin dude who rides on top of Max's car, goes, "What's an airport?" As each movie has progressed in the Mad Max universe, George Miller seems to have gone far out of his way for the continuity not to make sense, and says it's much more about the mythology of Max rather than the reality. The movies themselves are sort of like campfire retellings of the heroic folk figure of Max, the raggedy man from the before-time. For one small example, Charlize Theron and Tom Hardy are only 2 years apart in age, but in Fury Road Furiosa was born and raised after the apocolypse, while max was already in his early 30s when the apocolypse began. Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome are both bookended by characters who aren't Max narrating, and end saying that it was a story about Max from long ago in the narrators youth, so the details are probably highly unreliable.
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Olaf The Stout posted:Dang that sounds pretty fun honestly. I'm reading in the wiki that it's a non-linear open world RPG too, in 1991on the snes, that's pretty interesting. Apparently you can go in a bunch of different directions on the world map right from the start, and there's different quests in every direction that aren't dependent on each other. That's pretty neat to see in a SNES RPG, how does it handle XP and lvl scaling in an open world? While there isn’t a strong plot driving the exploration yet, NPC dialogue does a good job of pointing out where to explore next. Wanted enemies with big bounties are also sprinkled along the “critical path” but are sometimes in their own optional dungeon with optional rewards. There’s been one real “gate” to my exploration, which was a pair of bosses on the overworld. Each time the main character gains a level, the hunter guild picks a new random enemy to be the “weekly bounty”. Killing those enemies and reporting to the guild before you level up again will let you cash in for a cash bonus per kill. It’s a neat mechanic that helps with the grind for new equipment. Once everyone has a vehicle you’re well protected from most random battles, even if you skip a few towns and quests. Most of your power comes from your equipment in the end. I guess I’m halfway through it but I really recommend it so far.
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Dewgy posted:One of the collectible photos is of a Mad Max themed ride or park or something, which was delightfully meta. IIRC, Max's comment on it is a confused "What the?"
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jokes posted:I like it when series leaves long-unanswered questions intentionally and not just, like forget to care enough. Maybe Max, like the Dread Pirate Roberts, is more of an idea of a wandering cowboy or whatever that is a mystical un-ending being (or lineage of knowledgable hyper-capable dudes). I bet, though, that the writers just wanted Max to act like an insert of the player itself and be able to point out that it's an airport buried beneath the sand and the gremlin is saying 'whats an airport' to reiterate that society is destroyed or whatever. considering George Miller had input on game's script, it's far more likely they were going with the Dread Pirate Roberts interpretation, tbh
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Jan 21, 2020 05:37
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Dash Rendar posted:considering George Miller had input on game's script, it's far more likely they were going with the Dread Pirate Roberts interpretation, tbh Yeah GM has said that Max is a "campfire hero" and that you should view the movies as if someone is relaying the story to you after hearing it from someone who heard it from someone who... It's how we should treat Bond as well but the racists and sexists love to crawl out and exclaim that a fictitious character must be a certain way for eternity.
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Jan 21, 2020 17:00
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Bond was a real person tho
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Push El Burrito posted:No Just Cause game being released with coop is basically the biggest crime in video game history. The co-op mod was for JC2 was great. I remember trying that and finding a bunch of people having a race in high-end sports cars, so I went and got an attack helicopter and just started chasing them round the track shooting them. Good times.
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Olaf The Stout posted:As each movie has progressed in the Mad Max universe, George Miller seems to have gone far out of his way for the continuity not to make sense, and says it's much more about the mythology of Max rather than the reality. The movies themselves are sort of like campfire retellings of the heroic folk figure of Max, the raggedy man from the before-time. For one small example, Charlize Theron and Tom Hardy are only 2 years apart in age, but in Fury Road Furiosa was born and raised after the apocolypse, while max was already in his early 30s when the apocolypse began. Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome are both bookended by characters who aren't Max narrating, and end saying that it was a story about Max from long ago in the narrators youth, so the details are probably highly unreliable. Yeah I noticed this, too. Also, some of the kids in Beyond Thunderdome looked way too young to have been born before the Pox Eclipse. Frankly, I cannot enjoy media that isn't perfectly internally consistent from beginning to end. This isn't Greek theater, damnit!
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Jan 23, 2020 01:10
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I can only enjoy media that isn't internally consistent.
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Jan 23, 2020 03:36
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Have you heard of anime
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Kitfox88 posted:Have you heard of anime No, what is that?
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It's kinda like Japanimation
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Kitfox88 posted:Have you heard of anime it used to be about robots killing monsters but now it's mostly underclothed children
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In every Mad Max, he starts with his beloved V8 Interceptor, and it ends up getting destroyed or stolen. Timelines are odd, but it seems to fit with the idea of storytelling mythology that revolves around the wandering unlikely hero. Like the fact of Max being a former police officer, even though it seems entire empires have rose and fell since war scorched the earth. It's almost like Max was plucked from the time stream right after the bombs dropped, and now he skips along the surface like a stone, landing in spots long after he should have been dead. ANYWAYS, back to game stuff. I'm playing through Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and one of the stores you find in Prague sells "antique" stuff. Down in the store's basement, you can find a beat-up Companion Cube, a copy of one of the Hitman games, and deep at the bottom of a crate, buried under other boxes, there's a copy of Deus Ex: Human Revolution.
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The Zombie Guy posted:In every Mad Max, he starts with his beloved V8 Interceptor, and it ends up getting destroyed or stolen. Timelines are odd, but it seems to fit with the idea of storytelling mythology that revolves around the wandering unlikely hero. Like the fact of Max being a former police officer, even though it seems entire empires have rose and fell since war scorched the earth. It's almost like Max was plucked from the time stream right after the bombs dropped, and now he skips along the surface like a stone, landing in spots long after he should have been dead. People generally fail to realize the substantial and far-reaching impact that the Western genre has on media. Many things we take for granted in media comes directly from American Western TV/movies (which themselves were concepts stolen from earlier works, like Arthurian tales). The silent protagonist, the self-insert, the mustache-twirling villain, a billion other aspects, all established by a massive genre our generations likely never really saw. Mad Max is another iteration in a long, long chain of media franchises built around a hyper-capable morally grey (white) man who has a mostly unexplored background, finds himself the unwilling hero in a conflict that he wins for the good guys before leaving until the next episode/movie/video game where it happens again. Mad Max is a western. Arguably one of the best and purest westerns, but the characters and stories would mostly also be comfortably at home in the American Frontier.
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Ariong posted:No, what is that? Garbage.
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Kitfox88 posted:Have you heard of anime It's blood, right?
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My mad max headcanon is that the rest of the world is absolutely fine and the setting is just a slightly exaggerated Australia. This was my theory before Australia went on fire and its definitely well support4d now
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Jan 23, 2020 13:50
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How does your headcanon explain the lack of oceans? Honest question.
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Randalor posted:How does your headcanon explain the lack of oceans? Honest question. It's still set in the future. 2030.
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If it's Australia and they're in the middle of the Outback, there's hundreds of miles of desert in every direction before there's even the possibility of ocean.
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jokes posted:Mad Max is a western. Immortan Joe as a former Confederate general and the equivalents of Furiosa, the wives and the Vuvalini would be former slaves and/or natives, or does that come across as too exploitative?
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Randalor posted:How does your headcanon explain the lack of oceans? Honest question. One half of the planet has dry Mad-Max apocalypse, the other half of the planet has wet apocalypse. Ever play The Flame and the Flood? That's what's going on.
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The Australian desert is big enough that there was an uncontacted tribe wandering around in it until the 1980's. When somebody told them about running water that came out of pipes they went "whaaaaaaaaat?!?"
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The Australian desert is big enough that there was an uncontacted tribe wandering around in it until the 1980's. 
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YggiDee posted:One half of the planet has dry Mad-Max apocalypse, the other half of the planet has wet apocalypse. Ever play The Flame and the Flood? That's what's going on. Flame and the Flood owns. It's my go-to game for when I need to chill out for a bit.
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Mad Max/Waterworld crossover.
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haveblue posted:If it's Australia and they're in the middle of the Outback, there's hundreds of miles of desert in every direction before there's even the possibility of ocean. The setting has giant salt flats with wrecked cargo ships though. Pretty sure you won't find that combination in the outback
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Yeah it seems pretty clear that the oceans are if not totally gone, much much smaller
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Len posted:The setting has giant salt flats with wrecked cargo ships though. Pretty sure you won't find that combination in the outback Prove it
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I would absolutely believe that some mad bastard would haul a derelict cargo ship into the middle of the outback just for the sake of doing it.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I would absolutely believe that some mad bastard would haul a derelict cargo ship into the middle of the outback just for the sake of doing it. Hey, treat Hugeus Dongus with more respect than that
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Len posted:The setting has giant salt flats with wrecked cargo ships though. Pretty sure you won't find that combination in the outback Maybe not salt flats but aren't there are places in the world with lots of shipwrecks in the middle of the desert because the rivers and lakes dried out.
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So how cannon are the games? This entire conversation started with me talking about how cool the mad max games are, and the entire first half of the game explicetly takes place on the dried out ocean floor. There are whalebones and coral and multiple settlements made of grounded boats, and halfway through the game you fight your way uphill to the dried out marina and former boatlaunch. There's no more ocean, so the marina is a naturally defensible portion of the world now, as it's a massive cement structure that stretches for miles. One settlement is a former lighthouse on a hill, another is a former navy warship that now houses a community of cultists who's entire religion is based on the oceans coming back someday. Heck even Chumbucket himself has lived for years in a massive broken ship, and inside there are multiple sealed compartments filled with saltwater and muscles that he tends to and eats.
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The ending of the Mad Max game was shattering. 
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Olaf The Stout posted:So how cannon are the games? I believe the game is supposed to have happened right before Fury Road picks up. I think there are some comics that fill in some of the blanks as well.
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So, does the games even give the slightest explanation for what happened to the oceans? That much water doesn't just vanish.
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Johnny Aztec posted:So, does the games even give the slightest explanation for what happened to the oceans? None of Mad Max really goes into the nature of the apocalypse that went down, because it doesn't really matter.
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