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PowerBuilder3 posted:I liked the Golden Gate Bridge turned into a solar farm. I mean, the Enterprise computer, for example, was obviously an AI (and even developed full sentience in an season 7 episode) so I think it's kind of the difference between strong and weak AI
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PowerBuilder3 posted:I liked the Golden Gate Bridge turned into a solar farm. It's a fuzzy distinction that they also hand waved around in Mass Effect with the concept of Virtual Intelligence vs AI.
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I'm gonna be honest: I found that a little cheesy, and there were a handful of moments that I just didn't buy (Picard being blown up in New York, or whereever, and then waking up in the south of France, the twin reveal, the unprofessional reporter sequence). I suspect it's because I didn't grow up with Trek, and I've seen maybe twelve episodes tops. There's no nostalgia for me, no inherent connection to the characters. But both Patrick Stewart and Allison Pill were there, and I'm always happy to see more of either of them. The girl playing Dahj was being acted off the screen half the time, but it's not really her story. So we'll see.
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zoux posted:So the "quantum archive" was that a hologram of the painting or what If I had to come up with an explanation, that would be it. All of your belongings are stored as transporter pattern in computer memory and can be reconstituted as a hologram for you to view if you are at the archives. And they can be withdrawn from memory (which would remove the transporter pattern from memory, because something something transporter buffers. And I'd make up some line like how it uses a modified version of Montgomery Scott's buffer switch feature as a little nod. And, let's say, it can't do living things because of what happened to Franklin (he deserved better) so you can't store people inside it, DS9's spy episode notwithstanding. Maybe it CAN store humans but it's ethically frowned upon because of the chance for degradation. That would leave it open as a "gently caress it, we have no other choice" option but still make it hard to do.
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PowerBuilder3 posted:I liked the Golden Gate Bridge turned into a solar farm. We have planes now, so why do people use cars? And that AI probably isn't sentient. It's just a fancy computer program.
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The way it listed the assortment of gasses on the little screen, I figured it was just some incredibly elaborate future science way of preserving artwork, similar to how the Mona Lisa has to be kept in a climate-controlled airtight case to keep from crumbling.
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Also stuff is always gaining sentience, Vger, the exocomps, the computer, Nomad, etc. If your replicator ever asks why it exists you have to immediately phaser it.ashpanash posted:If I had to come up with an explanation, that would be it. All of your belongings are stored as transporter pattern in computer memory and can be reconstituted as a hologram for you to view if you are at the archives. And they can be withdrawn from memory (which would remove the transporter pattern from memory, because something something transporter buffers. And I'd make up some line like how it uses a modified version of Montgomery Scott's buffer switch feature as a little nod. And, let's say, it can't do living things because of what happened to Franklin (he deserved better) so you can't store people inside it, DS9's spy episode notwithstanding. Maybe it CAN store humans but it's ethically frowned upon because of the chance for degradation. That would leave it open as a "gently caress it, we have no other choice" option but still make it hard to do. It's some huge deal, to me, I couldn't tell if it was like a holoarchive entirely, if it was set apart specifically because Picard is a famous officer or if everyone gets a cubicle for their junk or what.
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Storing it in a climate and atmosphere controlled case seemed kind of contradictory with storing it in whatever "quantum storage" is. If it's a transporter buffer or a replicator, then why keep it in that case? Nothing will happen to it while it is being stored.
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zoux posted:
Baller fashion?
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zoux posted:Also stuff is always gaining sentience, Vger, the exocomps, the computer, Nomad, etc. If your replicator ever asks why it exists you have to immediately phaser it. Ensign Dipshit: Yeah, lemme get uh....steak, well done, with ketchup and some jalepeeno poppers Replicator: Does this unit have a soul? Ensign Dipshit: Who gives a poo poo where's my poppers
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Lizard Combatant posted:Baller fashion? Why for that matter would Ferengi set up shop on a post-scarcity planet with no money. They're after the secret of Root Beer is why.
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CarpenterWalrus posted:Despite the Blue Skies tag at the end of Nemesis? That's a bold retcon. I do appreciate that it makes Data's sacrifice more meaningful, though. It wasn't that it failed completely, it was basically B4's circuit couldn't handle all of Data's memories so most of them were lost.
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Croatoan posted:I wonder how all the weird Maga chuds who claim that Star Trek discovery has too many social justice warriors and forced diversity and too much socialism (have they even seen a Star Trek before?) are going to say that Picard sucks because of the obvious allegory for the immigration issue. The show is awesome so far. I'm not really interested in going to reddit to find out though. They are absolutely bitching about it already op.
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zoux posted:
Maybe Rom’s reforms worked and now it’s Hip To Be Ferengi
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Handsome Wife posted:It wasn't that it failed completely, it was basically B4's circuit couldn't handle all of Data's memories so most of them were lost. That makes more sense. It felt like a cop-out, anyway.
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I just watched it, I enjoyed the show quite a bit. I'm hoping that with all the daughter talk they don't forget about Lal being a thing.
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zoux posted:
Why wouldn't they, after Grand Nagus Rom's many reforms? e:fb
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Maybe Rom’s reforms worked and now it’s Hip To Be Ferengi There is a spectre haunting the Alpha Quadrant, the spectre of Rommunism
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Cojawfee posted:Storing it in a climate and atmosphere controlled case seemed kind of contradictory with storing it in whatever "quantum storage" is. If it's a transporter buffer or a replicator, then why keep it in that case? Nothing will happen to it while it is being stored. I just chalk that up to visual storytelling. That or maybe when you access the records it's not a hologram, it's the real thing, but they're stored as data.
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Why does she look familiar...why does she look familiar...why does she look OH poo poo IT'S KIM PINE! WE ARE SEX BOB-OMB! ONE TWO THREE FOUR! I enjoyed the show, and I look forward to more.
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TheCenturion posted:Why does she look familiar...why does she look familiar...why does she look OH poo poo IT'S KIM PINE! WE ARE SEX BOB-OMB! ONE TWO THREE FOUR! I can’t believe it’s been a decade since Scott Pilgrim. And Pill is still a total cutie.
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Oh man, Stewart looks so old.  It's sad. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jan 24, 2020 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Oh man, Stewart looks so old. When 97 years you reach, look as good, you will not
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Welp, body count of four by the opening credits. New Trek... Wait, so Stewart was 67 in 1990? That can't be right. edit: he's 80 you big liars
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Arglebargle III posted:Welp, body count of four by the opening credits. New Trek... The character is 92. Stewart is 79.
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CarpenterWalrus posted:Despite the Blue Skies tag at the end of Nemesis? That's a bold retcon. I do appreciate that it makes Data's sacrifice more meaningful, though. They also do a call back to that in the first few seconds of the episode.
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Oh cool another huge terrorist attack. Yaaaay it's modern Trek. Anyone else get the sense that Stewart's just playing himself here? I don't really see Picard. Well I finished the episode. It's not awful like Discovery's first episode, but I'm not impressed. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jan 24, 2020 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Anyone else get the sense that Stewart's just playing himself here? I don't really see Picard. He's definitely lost that reserved front he had, but whether that's an intentional progression of the character or not I'm not sure yet.
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Kirk stopped being Kirk around Star Trek IV, and just became William Shatner, Spaaaaaaaaaace Captain.
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Lizard Combatant posted:He's definitely lost that reserved front he had, but whether that's an intentional progression of the character or not I'm not sure yet. In All Good Things, PIcard had lost that reserve too. He was quick to anger and a bit out of it, I think because he had some kind of disease which there's been no mention of in this, but yeah I think it's fine that he's a bit different. It's been over 20 years since Nemesis in this, and people change when they get old. His accent is a bit different, I think that's the main thing showing up on people's radar. He's using more of his natural accent than the adopted upper class English he did in TNG. Not all of it, but it's there.
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large_gourd posted:In All Good Things, PIcard had lost that reserve too. He was quick to anger and a bit out of it, I think because he had some kind of disease which there's been no mention of in this, but yeah I think it's fine that he's a bit different. It's been over 20 years since Nemesis in this, and people change when they get old. I think you're right on the accent, good spot there. I thought it wasn't far off his all good things future persona, but there was something a little off.
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What is the ship in the foreground? It looks familiar but I can't place it.
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Technowolf posted:What is the ship in the foreground? It looks familiar but I can't place it. https://www.startrek.com/database_article/captains-yacht
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Having seen the episode, I'm cautiously optimistic for future episodes. Certainly a better first episode than Discovery.
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The -D had one of these too but they never used it. It was on the very bottom of the saucer
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PowerBuilder3 posted:I liked the Golden Gate Bridge turned into a solar farm. But overall dig the show.
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Gonz posted:Is this the first time we’ve actually seen the Daystrom Institute? I think so. I liked that episode way more than anything from Disco, I'm happy. It immediately did not go any of the directions I thought it might. Drone posted:
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