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I saw that bout and I kinda disgree (especially after looking at the replay). Shodai looked like he was on the ropes until Abi's lovely footwork struck again. E: ...and then there was one ozeki. anakha fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Jan 23, 2020 |
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Enho  I would expect his reach to be such a handicap -- like Takayasu showed, opponents can just go over his head to grab the mawashi. But I guess they're unable to leverage their weight to do anything with it in that position. Hopefully Kenning is not relying on NattoSumo's videos for fantasy, they had Yutakayama winning over Tochiozan by mistake which confused the heck out of me. Also, one of my favorite things in sumo is when a guy hulks up and blasts a dude into orbit, and Endo was the victim of that against Hokutofuji today.
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Jan 23, 2020 10:45
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We're approaching the point where one of the following is likely going to happen: Next basho having the title of Yokozuna on the line. (Takakeisho win) A competitor who has only won double digits bouts at the top division once in 25 tries winning. (Tokushoryu win) A competitor going from 3-12 his last time at his current ranking to winning the entire thing. (Shodai win) Any of these are exciting.
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Jan 23, 2020 10:52
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I just realized that Enho is listed as 5’6” 218. In virtually every other scenario, he’d be described as a tank rather than the tiny guy. Now I want to go to Japan just to see some of these guys in the wild to get their sizes in context. Like seeing NBA players when they aren’t standing in a forest of other giants and realizing that even the “tiny” PGs are still really tall compared to the general public.
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Jan 23, 2020 16:09
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Hyped that Enho is one win away from kachi-koshi. I won't be able to see it as it happens tomorrow but I can on Saturday and Sunday, looks like it will be an exciting last day.
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Jan 23, 2020 16:28
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Liquid Communism posted:Edit: Watched some of the 2018 US Sumo Open, and I can't see the appeal. It just looks like bad catch wrestling with weird pants. I feel this video explains both the pants and the appeal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXhVbxfmrYM
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Jan 23, 2020 17:47
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Another fantastic day of bouts! Shodai is honestly looking legit. I wouldn't be amazed at a Shodai yusho at this point. Great to see Enho hang in there. I also can't believe no one has mentioned it -- kotenage win from Takakeisho! That's cool as hell!fisting by many posted:Hopefully Kenning is not relying on NattoSumo's videos for fantasy, they had Yutakayama winning over Tochiozan by mistake which confused the heck out of me. I watch Natto, but I'd put down Tochiozan as the winner, since, well, he won. I also check against sumodb. Day 12 standings code:
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Jan 23, 2020 19:40
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My insistance on not trading cost me that half point. Curse my hubris!
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Jan 23, 2020 20:30
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Sumo is cool
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Sumo loving rocks.Robviously posted:My insistance on not trading cost me that half point. Curse my hubris! You get the .5 pt make-koshi penalty even if you trade a rikishi away. This is to discourage willy-nilly trading, and to encourage thoughtful initial drafting. You're still doing super well though!
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Jan 23, 2020 21:17
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enho started the basho 3-4 against guys who were M4-M7 he's 4-1 in his last 5 against Endo (M1), 2 Ozeki, and 2 Sekiwake admittedly, none of them are really tearing it up this month but man, what skill
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Jan 23, 2020 21:42
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I’m not gonna lie, Enho is making this a really enjoyable basho for me. I’m in the dumps about Takayasu sucking this much but at the same time I’m enjoying the little dude tearing everyone apart right now. Also enjoying a very-much-non-zero amount of schadenfreude from Goeido imploding as well. So far the good outweighs the bad, and this more wide-open competitive stuff is what I’m guessing we’ll be seeing a lot more of once Hakuho hangs it up. Kakuryu still going to hang around I bet but even he’s showing the rust now.
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Jan 23, 2020 21:50
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i actually feel sorry for goeido. everybody hates him and he just looks like the villain in an 80's movie about a plucky youngster trying to make it in sumo. now his ozeki is gone. poor weird looking giant.
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Jan 23, 2020 22:00
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Maybe it’s time for a... TRAINING MONTAGE
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bartolimu posted:I feel this video explains both the pants and the appeal: That right there is the difference between fat and strong. ENHOOOOOOOOOO
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Jan 23, 2020 22:26
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bartolimu posted:I feel this video explains both the pants and the appeal: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=1205 Here's the record of "Byamba" who in an earlier post I vaguely referred to as "Makushita rejects" dominating heavyweight/openweight in amateur sumo, in an effort to make it seem like I wasn't actually just talking about 1 guy. Really, gently caress that guy, it's like if someone who almost made it on an NBA team but decided it was too much work went on to become "10 times Amateur Basketball champion" or something like that. As for Enho, I feel like he does better against first time opponents than otherwise, I'm not sure if his type of Sumo is actually sustainable, we'll find out next Basho I think since he'll be fighting basically all the same people.
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Jan 23, 2020 22:26
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Kenning posted:Sumo loving rocks. Absolutely! But I also am a Pats fan so that .5 point penalty is obviously a 12 layer dip conspiracy against me. 
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Jan 23, 2020 22:30
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You also have guys who wisely don't want to deal with all the bullshit that comes with being a professional sumo wrestler, so they stay amateur even though they have the talent to make it to the salaried ranks as pros.
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Jan 23, 2020 22:34
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Brut posted:it's like if someone who almost made it on an NBA team but decided it was too much work went on to become "10 times Amateur Basketball champion" or something like that. https://www.sumobyamba.com/
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Not gonna lie, I love Byamba. He's super talented, and also an excellent self-promoter. I can't hate on him for using his skillset in this way. Try reading this Vice article about partying with amateur sumo wrestlers and see if you don't sort of love him by the end.Marching Powder posted:i actually feel sorry for goeido. everybody hates him and he just looks like the villain in an 80's movie about a plucky youngster trying to make it in sumo. now his ozeki is gone. poor weird looking giant. I've always liked Goeido. I love his mean mug face whenever someone does a matta against him, and I love his chaotic swings between being hugely powerful and weirdly tentative. I like that he sat at sekiwake forever, and was then kadoban 9 times before it stuck. And I loving love that he got one (1) zensho-yusho. In a sense he's the perfect ozeki (well, maybe Kaio was a bit more perfect) just in terms of how precisely his skill capped right at the ozeki requirements. It's a wonderful career, and I hope he gets to do a solid couple years doing the Kotoshogiku thing where he bounces around the maegashira before retiring at the completely normal age of 35 or so. Martytoof posted:I’m not gonna lie, Enho is making this a really enjoyable basho for me. I’m in the dumps about Takayasu sucking this much but at the same time I’m enjoying the little dude tearing everyone apart right now. It's been really fun! Other times when the yokozuna and ozeki were out it felt like the overall level of sumo was sort of low and sloppy. This basho we don't get Hakuho's dominance or Kakuryu's precision, but the quality of bouts has been really high. It's quite exciting!
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This Enho bout was pretty sick, I thought he was done when he got his mawashi grabbed but then he rallied and actually scored a dope rear end throw. Does he have a background in judo or whatever? A three-way race for the yusho is really fun, especially with low Maegashira going for it. I hope Enho and Kaisei get their winning records.
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Jan 24, 2020 01:02
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Takayasu getting a solid grip on the mawashi and just doing nothing for like 30 seconds seems to kind of sum up his whole basho. It's really weird coming in with this as my first because most of the ozeki and sekiwake kind of just poo poo the bed and both yokozuna pulled out. Endo starting out flying out the gate and then just falling apart was a big letdown for me because I wanted to make him one of my guys.
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Juryo things Terunofuji clinches the Juryo Yusho, and puts up another fairly dominant win for good measure. Chiyoshoma with a fairly "justified" henka -- against 4-9 Yago, sitting at 5-7 at J1 and needing 3 straight wins to make Makuuchi. Here are the names I expect still have a shot at making the top division (basically anyone above J4 with under 8 losses, or anyone above J6 with under 6. J1 Chiyoshoma 6-7 J2 Kotonowaka 7-6, Hidenoumi 7-6 J4 Nishikigi 9-4, Mitoryu 6-7 (probably not him) J5 Daishoho 9-4. Wakatakakage 8-5 J6 Daiamami 9-4 J13 Terunofuji 13-0 All depends how many people drop out of Makuuchi -- M13 Kotoeko at 2-10 is surely out. M3 Kotoyuki (0-0-12) and M5 Meisei (1-7-4) could be dropped (I found that Tomokaze was demoted from M3 to J1 after missing a tournament.) M13 Kotoshogiku and M12 Tsurugisho at 4-8 need some wins to save themselves, and everyone below that hasn't reached 8 losses yet and still has a shot at hanging on. I'm glad Natto started posting Juryo highlights because I'm starting to find it really interesting, especially on the last days when every match matters so much for promotion
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fisting by many posted:
A mighty kimidashi! I thought I'd never see that again.
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so an epic match up tomorrow between tokoshoryu and shodai, the winner probably taking the entire thing. shodai fought absolutely flawlessly today and i still pick him to win, but i can't help but think that tokoshoryu looks like an egg with mechanical legs and when he squats and puts himself into launch position he cannot be beat.
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Jan 24, 2020 09:07
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As cool as “Yushodai” sounds, I so want to see the dude in last place ranking take the whole thing.
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Jan 24, 2020 09:11
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Is there a  that is just growing and possibly explodes into more s?
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Jan 24, 2020 09:36
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Please, if you're skimming this in the morning, do not spoil Abi vs Enho for yourself. Or do, but go watch it anyway.
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Jan 24, 2020 09:39
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enho. oh my god. what a basho. 10/10
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Is there a Yeah, but that is then leg picked by Enho and launched into orbit.
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Enho WHAT  I just started screaming after that fisting by many fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Jan 24, 2020 |
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Jan 24, 2020 10:51
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Ok so I think this is the best Basho I've seen since I've started paying attention to Sumo a couple years ago or however long it's been. That being said, anyone who's been paying attention to Abi since his Makuuchi debut should know that jumping off the Dohyo in a panic is just a thing he does sometimes even if nobody's in a position where it would look like they're lifting him
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Jan 24, 2020 11:47
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I love how Abi-Enho was straight out of MMA 101. Duck the strike, shoot for the single-leg. Hope Takakeisho's nose isn't broken. That forearm by Takayasu at the tachi-ai reeked of pure desperation.
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Brut posted:Ok so I think this is the best Basho I've seen since I've started paying attention to Sumo a couple years ago or however long it's been. Oh good so it's not just me this is pretty exceptional in terms of fantastic match making / fighting / results. anakha posted:
Yeah that forearm was brutal. I'm surprised takakeisho's whole face didn't explode. Also, is takakeisho really only 23?!
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Jan 24, 2020 12:03
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Enho ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO ENHO. ENHO. holy poo poo
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Jan 24, 2020 12:20
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Enho is such a boss holy gently caress 
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Marching Powder posted:Also, is takakeisho really only 23?! Yup! He's the youngest guy in Makuuchi right now, Onosho and Kiribayama are only a little bit older, here's an ordered list: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.as...rt_by=birthdate I wouldn't be surprised if Kotoshogiku retires after this Basho, given he's at the top of this list and has extensive injuries.
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Jan 24, 2020 13:17
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lmao my jaw hit the ground when the thing happened you know the thing
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Jan 24, 2020 14:03
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Barring disaster I feel like Takakeisho is going to make a run at Yokozuna, especially if Hakuho (and/or Kakuryu) retires soon. He's already pretty consistent at age 23 and he's gotta have an easier time being promoted as a Japanese rikishi.
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Dias posted:Barring disaster I feel like Takakeisho is going to make a run at Yokozuna, especially if Hakuho (and/or Kakuryu) retires soon. He's already pretty consistent at age 23 and he's gotta have an easier time being promoted as a Japanese rikishi. I agree. Especially as there's no competition right now -- the road to Yokozuna is a lot harder with a healthy Hakuho and Kakuryu all but guaranteeing two losses each basho. He's looked a step above everyone else in Makuuchi. Two wins would guarantee him at least Jun-Yusho which could be the first step in a run.
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