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My personal headcanon(a nerdier word there never was) is that the Romulans, who we already know experiment with artificial singularities, did something bad to their star inadvertently and it asploded.
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As someone who never liked TNG i must say that it was ok enough to make me watch the second episode and see how it uunfolds. I absolutely do not want sophisticated space-aristocrat Jean-Luc Picard but disgruntled, disillusioned old geezer Picard who brutally eviscerates a bloated Starfleet Moloch. A man can dream. Also, if they reveal, that (Speculation) Dahj 's Name is some sort of derivate from "Data"+"Jean-Luc" i'm gonna puke!
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Jan 24, 2020 18:08
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Pinterest Mom posted:The radius of the supernova (which, huh, it does look like severe radiation from supernovae actually does extend dozens of light-years?) perfectly matching the border of the empire is the dumbest part. It's a lot more interesting if a few Federation worlds are in the radius and the Federation decides to invest 100% of resources into those 2-4 planets and refuses to help out the dozens of Romulan planets! That would have made a really interesting story. Or like, maybe lots and lots of Romulan refugees made it to those worlds pre-supernova and were turned away. Admiral Bosch posted:My personal headcanon(a nerdier word there never was) is that the Romulans, who we already know experiment with artificial singularities, did something bad to their star inadvertently and it asploded. Basically a far larger Praxis.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:10
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Sumo posted:I'm 70 Virgins The collective noun for that is "a star trek thread"
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Jan 24, 2020 18:12
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I really hate the goddamn supernova and I wish they had just ignored it. It happened in another universe or some poo poo. That said at least they’re taking it seriously.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:14
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bou posted:As someone who never liked TNG i must say that it was ok enough to make me watch the second episode and see how it uunfolds. I absolutely do not want sophisticated space-aristocrat Jean-Luc Picard but disgruntled, disillusioned old geezer Picard who brutally eviscerates a bloated Starfleet Moloch. A man can dream. I thought it was simply a shortened 'Daughter' - Chabon did the same kind of distorted name thing with the Vedyrash short trek.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:17
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Seems like a loooot of galactopolitical rivals to the United Federation of Planets have their homeworlds rendered uninhabitable by nearby celestial explosions  Might want to keep an eye on the old home star, THE BREEN
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Jan 24, 2020 18:18
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I was really worried that we were going to see bitter, angry, hermit Picard, a la Luke Skywalker. It seemed like we were going down that path, but as soon as he started talking to Dahj I realized that TNG Picard was still here. They haven't seemed to change his character too bad.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:19
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zoux posted:Seems like a loooot of galactopolitical rivals to the United Federation of Planets have their homeworlds rendered uninhabitable by nearby celestial explosions It's a Dominion go-to. Remember how Changling-Bashir tried to blow up Bajor's sun to kill DS9 and Bajor?
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Jan 24, 2020 18:20
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I enjoyed the first episode a lot
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Jan 24, 2020 18:20
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MichiganCubbie posted:I was really worried that we were going to see bitter, angry, hermit Picard, a la Luke Skywalker. It seemed like we were going down that path, but as soon as he started talking to Dahj I realized that TNG Picard was still here. They haven't seemed to change his character too bad. I don't even mind that he has that in him, but I'm glad that the storyline is starting at the transition where he breaks out of his funk and gets back to work.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:21
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MichiganCubbie posted:It's a Dominion go-to. Remember how Changling-Bashir tried to blow up Bajor's sun to kill DS9 and Bajor? Malcolm McDowell blew up a whole sun when he coulda just spent the rest of his life in a holodeck
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Jan 24, 2020 18:23
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Less romulans more homomdans
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Jan 24, 2020 18:25
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zoux posted:Malcolm McDowell blew up a whole sun when he coulda just spent the rest of his life in a holodeck Honestly probably safer to just destroy whole star systems than risk a lifetime of holograms becoming sentient.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:26
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zoux posted:Malcolm McDowell blew up a whole sun when he coulda just spent the rest of his life in a holodeck And who had all the material that he was using to blow up stars? The Romulans. He stole it from them to build his torpedoes. They attacked the observatory where he was based because he and the Duras sisters attacked them first and stole their materials.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:26
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Horsebanger posted:Juicy hot take this is why it's insane that this is the first time someone has thought to use the 2380s/2390s as a Star Trek setting. There's so much there
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Jan 24, 2020 18:26
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stuart scott posted:this is why it's insane that this is the first time someone has thought to use the 2380s/2390s as a Star Trek setting. There's so much there But where’s SPOCK and horny Kirk? Beam me up, Scotty! That’s the Trek I remember
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Jan 24, 2020 18:30
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The 60+ demo is definitely what you need to pump up a streaming service.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:37
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Horsebanger posted:Juicy hot take Remember how Picard was even for it initially, but he knew better than to commit genocide? Then that bitch Admiral Necheyev scolded Picard for not being cool with revenge against people who violated him, which I think is more telling of human nature at its core. To me this resonates a lot better than late Roddenberry kumbaya hackery, because it isn't so preachy and rather shows me that it's okay to wrestle with morality and second guess doing the right thing. In the world we live in today we're in dire need of guidance from a man like Picard in a society that espouses tolerance but actually has some of the least tolerant people calling the shots. This is a great show and I'm happy we can actually talk about human poo poo again instead of the usual rabble I've come to expect.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:42
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Ill give the Romulans this: D'deridex class warbirds are bad rear end
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Jan 24, 2020 18:43
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Delthalaz posted:But where’s SPOCK and horny Kirk? Beam me up, Scotty! That’s the Trek I remember What if... and bear with me here, this is going to get a little wild, Mister Spock (Mr. Star Track himself) is an epic badass who’s PISSED! Also it turns out he has a cool nephew or something.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:44
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I also want to say I like the new Romulan people.Drunkboxer posted:What if... and bear with me here, this is going to get a little wild, Mister Spock (Mr. Star Track himself) is an epic badass who’s PISSED! Also it turns out he has a cool nephew or something. they already did "louder, angrier, and with access to a time machine" in 2009
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Jan 24, 2020 18:44
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Cojawfee posted:The 60+ demo is definitely what you need to pump up a streaming service. I mean if the showrunners are boomers...
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Jan 24, 2020 18:45
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The Golden Gael posted:I also want to say I like the new Romulan people. I'm glad they no longer have to wear clothes made out of polyester Motel 6 bed spreads from the 80s
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Jan 24, 2020 18:47
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zoux posted:Captain Reginald Broccoli Why are you like this
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Jan 24, 2020 18:48
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zoux posted:I'm glad they no longer have to wear clothes made out of polyester Motel 6 bed spreads from the 80s do you think those guys knew Nero
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Jan 24, 2020 18:48
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The Golden Gael posted:do you think those guys knew Nero I know in the Countdown comics he was in possession of a ship built with Romulan/Borg tech by the remnants of the Tal Shiar, but I really like the idea that it's just a normal mining vessel and he's not special, just a captain of a crew of miners.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:50
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"Hi Chris I'm Nero"
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Jan 24, 2020 18:51
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Rhyno posted:"Hi Chris I'm Nero" Legitimately a great line.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:54
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HD DAD posted:Legitimately a great line. ST09 has a lot of charm.
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First episode of Picard was pretty neat. - My stupid brain has a terrible gift for holding onto awful details because in the scene where the assassins showed up, I recognized the guns they were using as a Romulan design, and I was right! - Dahj's "death" seemed a little odd to me. It's as if the stuff the Romulan spat on her (blood?) started eating her away like acid, paralyzing her so she couldn't move away from the overloading disruptor. I think she did have time to move otherwise. I'm also not sure she's really gone. "Didn't appear on the security footage" and "didn't find any remains" seems highly suspicious, especially given that the assassins are explicitly using highly accurate and fast transporter tech. - So there's a tremendous explosion on the roof of the Starfleet Archive involving a celebrity and former admiral, and, apparently, no one from Starfleet Security felt inclined to ask Picard any questions? - The necklace's design conveying such a specific meaning seemed a little strange - to me it just looked like two rings overlapping. - The idea of being able to reconstitute an entire neural network from one positronic neuron was... questionable. - The location at the ending was a little odd because it looked like a Borg Cube, but I didn't see any Borg. Was that explained in some other media I haven't seen? Pinterest Mom posted:The radius of the supernova (which, huh, it does look like severe radiation from supernovae actually does extend dozens of light-years?) perfectly matching the border of the empire is the dumbest part. It's a lot more interesting if a few Federation worlds are in the radius and the Federation decides to invest 100% of resources into those 2-4 planets and refuses to help out the dozens of Romulan planets! Gamma ray radiation being deadly in a radius of many light-years is accurate, but the problem is that it moves at the speed of light, and they have ships which can travel much, much faster than light . So for the star at the center of that map to cause problems for Romulus and Remus, you'd have to believe that no one ever flew into a system past the visible light radius of the supernova, and just look how much of the map that thing takes up. Someone would have noticed it, if only because "why do all ships entering this expanding sphere vanish"? So yes, just the home star going supernova unexpectedly would be sufficient, although it would probably have to be a suspicious nova for it to catch people off guard, since the approximate end-of-life date for stars is something we can ballpark now (and in the future, forecasting would no doubt be easier).
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Jan 24, 2020 19:00
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First episode was alright.
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Jan 24, 2020 19:04
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Sure, but evacuating one world with billions of beings on it is virtually impossible. Now you have a list of worlds, and a ticking countdown, and they bloody well know it. They're screaming for aid, there's riots in the streets, and meanwhile, at Starfleet, there's a boardroom full of admirals all looking at each other uneasily, nobody wanting to be the very first to say 'ya know, is this really such a bad thing?'
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TheCenturion posted:Sure, but evacuating one world with billions of beings on it is virtually impossible. Now you have a list of worlds, and a ticking countdown, and they bloody well know it. They're screaming for aid, there's riots in the streets, and meanwhile, at Starfleet, there's a boardroom full of admirals all looking at each other uneasily, nobody wanting to be the very first to say 'ya know, is this really such a bad thing?' You know someone in that room probably raised the point that the last time an enemy’s homeworld was threatened by calamity they ended up with 80 years of peace as a result.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:- The location at the ending was a little odd because it looked like a Borg Cube, but I didn't see any Borg. Was that explained in some other media I haven't seen? Nope, it is a mystery so far
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e: yeah what TheCenturion saidStabbey_the_Clown posted:Gamma ray radiation being deadly in a radius of many light-years is accurate, but the problem is that it moves at the speed of light, and they have ships which can travel much, much faster than light . So for the star at the center of that map to cause problems for Romulus and Remus, you'd have to believe that no one ever flew into a system past the visible light radius of the supernova, and just look how much of the map that thing takes up. Someone would have noticed it, if only because "why do all ships entering this expanding sphere vanish"? The fact that the supernova propagates at the speed of light is actually a really interesting thing to explore! If a planet of, say, seven billion people is told "radiation from the supernova is going to make your planet inhabitable in ten years", they have to evacuate two million people a day, every day, for ten years. For one planet! As the circle expands, there are more and more planets a year affected, and it's just an impossible scale to work at. That's a problem demanding a civilization pour all its resources into it, and one that lasts for 20, 40, 50 years. Pinterest Mom fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jan 24, 2020 |
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Pinterest Mom posted:As the circle expands, there are more and more planets a year affected, and it's just an impossible scale to work at. That's a problem demanding a civilization pour all its resources into it, and one that lasts for 20, 40, 50 years. Yep. That mention of ten thousand evacuation ships sounds like a lot but it's not even close to sufficient for the scale of disaster they're dealing with.
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Grand Fromage posted:Yep. That mention of ten thousand evacuation ships sounds like a lot but it's not even close to sufficient for the scale of disaster they're dealing with. They used the ships they had and they were trying to save as many people as they could.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:You know someone in that room probably raised the point that the last time an enemy’s homeworld was threatened by calamity they ended up with 80 years of peace as a result. Letting your enemy be destroyed by a nearby ecological disaster? Baby that's Praxis.
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Imagine all the ready room Starfleet command conversations we could have about the morality of violating the prime directive to evacuate a small primitive race from the supernova vs just leaving them to die because helping them would expose that there are advanced races in space.
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