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Although it doesn’t help clarity when third parties step in to carry support forward. See the Python 2 situation, where companies like Red Hat and Amazon (for Lambda) are going to keep supporting the dumb thing for the foreseeable future. Even though it’s been deprecated for ages and is officially “EOL” this year according to the core developers and community. The term has a defined meaning but there are enough exceptions you can’t entirely take it on its face every time.
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End of Life (unless you pay us a ridiculous amount for renewals) My company did this for a bank. There was an old feature that we were dropping but they complained. We threw a high 6 figure, maybe 7, at them thinking that would be that but no. They sent payment within 30 days.
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Welp work from home got axed by senior management. Cool
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Woof Blitzer posted:Welp work from home got axed by senior management. Cool something something coronavirus it's actually shocking how much less effective i am in the office
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Woof Blitzer posted:Welp work from home got axed by senior management. Cool They say why?
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skipdogg posted:They say why? 8. Effective Monday January 27 , we will cease doing Work From Home days. We need all of our staff and managers to be in the office so we can drive Service. I know this change will be unpopular, but it is being enacted across the board to include Incident Managers, Application Service Managers, etc. Any exception to this rule (i.e. emergencies & coverage) needs to be approved first.
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Drive Service? Get hosed. Drive people to look for other employment more like.
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Woof Blitzer posted:8. Effective Monday January 27 , we will cease doing Work From Home days. We need all of our staff and managers to be in the office so we can drive Service. I know this change will be unpopular, but it is being enacted across the board to include Incident Managers, Application Service Managers, etc. Any exception to this rule (i.e. emergencies & coverage) needs to be approved first. quote this, reply all with just a single ?
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Woof Blitzer posted:8. Effective Monday January 27 , we will cease doing Work From Home days. We need all of our staff and managers to be in the office so we can drive Service. I know this change will be unpopular, but it is being enacted across the board to include Incident Managers, Application Service Managers, etc. Any exception to this rule (i.e. emergencies & coverage) needs to be approved first. "Middle managers are not spending their time managing their employees. Sr Managers want to step in and micromanage for a while."
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This is because of the change freeze for Christmas which led to groups blowing their wads on a stream of changes in January which destroyed SLAs. Extreme self-ownage. Too bad because our director and my manager had no say in the decision.
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Woof Blitzer posted:8. Effective Monday January 27 , we will cease doing Work From Home days. We need all of our staff and managers to be in the office so we can drive Service. I know this change will be unpopular, but it is being enacted across the board to include Incident Managers, Application Service Managers, etc. Any exception to this rule (i.e. emergencies & coverage) needs to be approved first. lol Someone wrote that and thought it was good messaging. Goon luck in your job search.
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Yep. If you've never had WFH at a position, it sucks not getting it. Having WFH and then having it ripped away is much, much worse. That would be the tipping point for me to start looking for new employment, on principle.
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Yeah, it's one thing to never have had work from home to start. But to have it then management takes it away? Fuuuuuuck that. Happy Friday thread. Developers are idiots. God bless.
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My ex has been wfh for 20 years. She said they'd need to give her a cash bonus just to buy all the clothes she'd need to have to go back to an office.
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GreenNight posted:My ex has been wfh for 20 years. She said they'd need to give her a cash bonus just to buy all the clothes she'd need to have to go back to an office. I'd need an intensive course on how to behave in public. e.g. "The importance of wearing a belt with a kimono when the Amazon man delivers" would be the first lesson.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Yeah, it's one thing to never have had work from home to start. But to have it then management takes it away? Fuuuuuuck that. You should have seen pen test results I got at the beginning of the week. A website that has only existed for 18 months has tls 1.0 enabled as well as little to no input validation. I sat in the meeting with the dev team and when the subject of input validation libraries was brought up, too many folks didn't know what the gently caress was being discussed. Developers are idiots.
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Woof Blitzer posted:8. Effective Monday January 27 , we will cease doing Work From Home days. We need all of our staff and managers to be in the office so we can drive Service. I know this change will be unpopular, but it is being enacted across the board to include Incident Managers, Application Service Managers, etc. Any exception to this rule (i.e. emergencies & coverage) needs to be approved first. These kinds of changes are usually to reduce headcount, in my opinion. That's why, for most of you who are like "oh my god, don't they know?", I just say, yes they know. It's intentional. The Iron Rose posted:something something coronavirus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9EUDn8sLrs MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jan 24, 2020 |
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Sickening posted:You should have seen pen test results I got at the beginning of the week. A website that has only existed for 18 months has tls 1.0 enabled as well as little to no input validation. I sat in the meeting with the dev team and when the subject of input validation libraries was brought up, too many folks didn't know what the gently caress was being discussed. I just found an unsecured rest endpoint and pulled an entire prod database from a dev API call. Bless.
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But in the cloud somebody else handles the security for you, look at all the pictures of the badge readers on the data centre providers website
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Thanks Ants posted:But in the cloud somebody else handles the security for you, look at all the pictures of the badge readers on the data centre providers website What’s a shared responsibility model?
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CLAM DOWN posted:I just found an unsecured rest endpoint and pulled an entire prod database from a dev API call. Bless. Sweet Jesus. God bless.
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CLAM DOWN posted:I just found an unsecured rest endpoint and pulled an entire prod database from a dev API call. Bless.  Does a dev environment have access to production resources, or did the data get cloned over and not sanitized? Neither one is good, but one is worse than the other!
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CLAM DOWN posted:Yes. Lmao. lmao indeed
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Hey at least it's me finding this rather than am actual bad guy....right? Right???
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CLAM DOWN posted:Hey at least it's me finding this rather than am actual bad guy....right? Right??? nobody suspects the security guy to be the insider threat all along
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nullfunction posted:
Is this wrong? No reason just asking.
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Woof Blitzer posted:Is this wrong? No reason just asking. Network isolation between different environments is generally good practice. It shouldn't be possible for a dev resource to access a prod resource even in the event of a human error or configuration error otherwise. At my last company at least twice there had been an accident of somebody flushing a very important prod redis instance when they thought they were working in another environment.
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Woof Blitzer posted:Is this wrong? No reason just asking. It's very very wrong. I can go into more detail later as I am phoneposting.
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I know, it was just a bit!
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I got that beat but I’m signed to a NDA.
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Woof Blitzer posted:I know, it was just a bit! Look I am 4 hours into a prod issue on a Friday night, my sense of humour has been taken out back and shot with a flamethrower
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For the first decade at my current job we had no prod/dev for development. It was all prod. We still don't have version control or check in/out capabilities.
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GreenNight posted:For the first decade at my current job we had no prod/dev for development. It was all prod.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Look I am 4 hours into a prod issue on a Friday night, my sense of humour has been taken out back and shot with a flamethrower You can’t get shot with a flamethrower. That makes no sense. If you’re gonna do gun talk let us Americans do it. loving Canuck
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GreenNight posted:For the first decade at my current job we had no prod/dev for development. It was all prod. something I've learned a lot over the past couple years is that you can have really bad technical tooling, processes, you can even have really bad opinions, and it doesn't have that much of an impact on the success of the business overall if your job lasted a decade without version control someone was still doing the important parts right
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Well I’m at the networking/pc side and not the AS400 side. I just watch the festivities.
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GreenNight posted:For the first decade at my current job we had no prod/dev for development. It was all prod. actually, it was all dev
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