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sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde
smh if you didn't spend the early 90s sitting in front of an Amiga.

e: The Amiga had at least 117 games.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


sinky posted:

smh if you didn't spend the early 90s sitting in front of an Amiga.

e: The Amiga had at least 117 games.

I spent the very early 90s in front of a Spectrum before moving to a Master System.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

WhatEvil posted:

We had a BBC Micro in the house since before I was born, and I'm in my mid 30s.

loving cracking computer, that.

BTW, you can play pretty much all the games that ever came out on the Micro online here:

http://www.bbcmicro.co.uk

I've just spent the last 30 minutes playing Martello Tower like it's 1989 in middle school all over again

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
It was the Game Boy Classic for me, loved that gigantic brick of a handheld console.

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Darth Walrus posted:

You're falling into the trap of pure electoralism here. Don't look at the image they give off, look at how they will materially reconnect the Labour Party with voters. RLB bringing in open selection and endorsing the Preston model (and being endorsed by Preston CLP) is pretty significant.

This is correct, think I'm just a little spooked by the people I know who liked Corbyn and are diehard Labour voters and trade unionists all telling me they favour Starmer over RLB.

Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008
https://twitter.com/vampiretraums/status/1220661093472833538?s=19

Cool.

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



I wish we had ruling socialist politicians who sang about their pussies

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

I've just spent the last 30 minutes playing Martello Tower like it's 1989 in middle school all over again

Haha great!

My wife and I played through that a couple of years ago because she remembered having it at school and playing it with her sisters, but was never able to finish it.

We finished it, and then once you finish it, it says "Now try and finish it in only 153 moves!" or something, and we tried, but we came up like 2 over or something.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
Jeremy Vine is a oval office.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

WhatEvil posted:

Haha great!

My wife and I played through that a couple of years ago because she remembered having it at school and playing it with her sisters, but was never able to finish it.

We finished it, and then once you finish it, it says "Now try and finish it in only 153 moves!" or something, and we tried, but we came up like 2 over or something.

I think me and my mate finished it once, and it took about three months of lunchtimes working it out

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Bacon Terrorist posted:

This is correct, think I'm just a little spooked by the people I know who liked Corbyn and are diehard Labour voters and trade unionists all telling me they favour Starmer over RLB.

They're all spooked by a overwhelming press assault and a really poor election result making them make a bad decision, it's up to other people on the left to remind them of the consequences of poorly thought out decisions made in a panic.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Bacon Terrorist posted:

He cant be given the 'anti establishment' treatment because he is a knight. His only real 'scandals' pre politics are the Tomlinson/police death and the joke tweet prosecution.

With RLB there is the paint by numbers 'radical left threat' stuff in addition to the 'fudged figures on career as a solicitor' etc.

I think Starmer wouldn't be great but the Tories were probably bricking it about Boris except as far as their concerned we never offered a credible opposition so it didn't matter.

The press managed to absolutely Kinnock, Brown and Miliband who were all boring white dudes as well. They don't need any actual ammunition to get to him. I also worry that Starmer will just fold like an origami crane at the slightest hint of pressure given how completely noncommittal he's been about everything so far.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Computer history chat:

In 1982/3 I ran an after school club for kids with computers - ZX81. The really rich kids had 1kB add-on packs.
Even then some of the kids were making and selling computer games.

A couple of friends had BBC computers with the cassettes.

At work, we got our first computer in about 1984 and each department was allowed to book 1 hour a week on it. It had Lotus suite and no hard drive, everything on those 5.25" floppies.

Then my dad got an Amstrad machine that ran something called locoscript which was great for typing my master's thesis on - it had lots of greek letters, great for particle physics.
This was all in the 1980s.

In the early 90s I got my own first desktop - huge 40mB hard drive, MSDos 3, no GUI, monochrome monitor. And a couple of years later a Z88 for typing notes in college. It was perfect, silent keyboard, for taking notes in lectures (management stuff at that point rather than mathy stuff) - I've still got this actually. Others had started to get laptops but they were so 'clacky' and really disturbing in lectures.

At work I was allowed an IBM 386 - it had a 130MB hard drive but we never knew how to access the other partition so I was only working with 40mB the whole time. It had Windows 3 GUI but 'they' wouldn't let me have a mouse because 'only people playing games need a mouse' so I couldn't see the point of it.

In 1997 I finally got a computer with a modem and a tv card and entered the modern world. (Ed: I didn't have a tv before that, and I got the computer with the tv card literally one week before Princess Di was killed).

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jan 25, 2020

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



Not UK news, but this is beautiful

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1220486684829265920

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
I remember getting a 60MB HD for my Amiga 600 and after two months decided to format it, except that I did a high level format on it and basically turned it into an unbootable 60MB floppy disk

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Pilchenstein posted:

Jeremy Vine is a oval office.

I'm shocked. Shocked I say!

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
What would you reckon to a supposedly secure website that has this statement?

"The system is optimized for: Windows Microsoft® Internet Explorer 5.5, 6.0 (including 6.0 on XP SP2), 7.0 and 8.0, Windows Netscape® 7.2, Windows AOL ® 9, Windows Firefox® 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0, Opera® 9.5 and Macintosh Safari®."

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What would you reckon to a supposedly secure website that has this statement?

"The system is optimized for: Windows Microsoft® Internet Explorer 5.5, 6.0 (including 6.0 on XP SP2), 7.0 and 8.0, Windows Netscape® 7.2, Windows AOL ® 9, Windows Firefox® 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0, Opera® 9.5 and Macintosh Safari®."

"Yeah, that seems secure, I mean it's not like anyone can actually remember how to hack anything this old."

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Ms Adequate posted:

"Yeah, that seems secure, I mean it's not like anyone can actually remember how to hack anything this old."

It's this new Barclaycard Secure thing. The website looks horribly old-fashioned too.
Don't trust it in the slightest.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What would you reckon to a supposedly secure website that has this statement?

"The system is optimized for: Windows Microsoft® Internet Explorer 5.5, 6.0 (including 6.0 on XP SP2), 7.0 and 8.0, Windows Netscape® 7.2, Windows AOL ® 9, Windows Firefox® 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0, Opera® 9.5 and Macintosh Safari®."

is that the forums?

huehehuehehe

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

baka kaba posted:

is that the forums?

huehehuehehe

Of course not, the word "optimised" is right there.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


At least that goes up to IE8. There's a website we use internally for work that is still optimised for IE5.5 and anything beyond IE9 it refuses to believe is a real browser.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Sent barclaycard a stropogram. If they're introducing a new security system, I at least expect it to look like the website was built in the last few years not my first efforts at websites back in 1998.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Sent barclaycard a stropogram.

Was he dressed as a police officer?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

sinky posted:

smh if you didn't spend the early 90s sitting in front of an Amiga.

e: The Amiga had at least 117 games.

Atari ST krew would like a word :toughguy:

Actually I would have liked an Amiga but STs were a hundred quid cheaper when dad was upgrading me from a Speccy so welp. Least I got to learn ARM before it was cool on the school's Archimedes boxes.

IrvingWashington
Dec 9, 2007

Shabbat Shalom
Clapping Larry

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

It's this new Barclaycard Secure thing. The website looks horribly old-fashioned too.
Don't trust it in the slightest.

After seeing how their code gets released, I'm not even slightly surprised. Absolute shitshow.

e: computer chat - I had a Dragon 32 my mum got given by someone, and I copied programs out of basic books from the library because I had 2 tapes, one with "Pettigrew's Diary" and another which had "Trek" which was supposed to be a Star Trek game.

Then I didn't have a computer until everything went weird in the mid 2000s / my mid-20s and I found myself finally doing a programming degree after spending a month on a mental health ward.

Now I upset people like Barclays by telling them they might as well not have a process if they're going to ignore it all the time :commissar:

IrvingWashington fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jan 25, 2020

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Good thread:

https://twitter.com/gabriel_pogrund/status/1220839214289498112?s=21

lol at Nandy and Thornberry.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Of course not, the word "optimised" is right there.

what's more optimised than using bitfields for forum features???

speaking of imposing pointlessly restrictive limitations, barclaycard has a thing where you have a memorable word, but it can only be 6 7 or 8 characters long. And a "memorable number" which is 6 digits, but with a bunch of arbitrary rules like "no repeating digits" or "looks too much like a date", it's actively user hostile

some banks do a thing where they ask you to put in the 4th and 7th or whatever characters from your password, so either they're storing hundreds or thousands of hashed character combos per user to randomly throw at you when you log in, or they're just keeping yr password stored in plaintext so they can quiz you on it. Given how desperate they are to save a few bytes by limiting you to bad password lengths I'm not optimistic

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1220848733773910016?s=20

Rare bit of actually interesting reporting in The Graun, albeit from the States

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

isn't "the Base" literally what al-quaeda means?

e: the article says as much lol

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Dabir posted:

isn't "the Base" literally what al-quaeda means?

e: the article says as much lol

Al-Qaeda (/ælˈkaɪdə, ˌælkɑːˈiːdə/; Arabic: القاعدة‎ al-Qāʿidah, IPA: [ælqɑːʕɪdɐ], translation: "The Base", "The Foundation" or "The Database"


Smiling at 'The Database'. Some kind of Cyber ops.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Born in 92 it's safe to say I spent the early 90s as a puddle of jizz and later pissing my pants. It seems somehow I was ahead of the previous generations.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Al-Qaeda (/ælˈkaɪdə, ˌælkɑːˈiːdə/; Arabic: القاعدة‎ al-Qāʿidah, IPA: [ælqɑːʕɪdɐ], translation: "The Base", "The Foundation" or "The Database"


Smiling at 'The Database'. Some kind of Cyber ops.

IIRC it's an abbreviation and their real name is massive

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Oh wow just found this!

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/aug/24/alqaida.sciencefictionfantasyandhorror

quote:

In October last year, an item appeared on an authoritative Russian studies website that soon had the science-fiction community buzzing with speculative excitement. It asserted that Isaac Asimov's 1951 classic Foundation was translated into Arabic under the title "al-Qaida". And it seemed to have the evidence to back up its claims.

"This peculiar coincidence would be of little interest if not for abundant parallels between the plot of Asimov's book and the events unfolding now," wrote Dmitri Gusev, the scientist who posted the article. He was referring to apparent similarities between the plot of Foundation and the pursuit of the organisation we have come to know, perhaps erroneously, as al-Qaida.

....


Japan's Aum Shinrikyo sect - which released 11 packets of deadly sarin gas into the Tokyo subway in 1995 - was also apparently trying to build a community of scientists modelled on the members of Asimov's Foundation.



Dabir posted:

IIRC it's an abbreviation and their real name is massive

In that article, also this:

quote:

After all, communiques issued by Bin Laden and his associates never use the name. Instead they refer to themselves as the "World Islamic Front for Jihad against Jews and the Crusaders", the "Islamic Army for the Liberation of Holy Places" and so on.


I've been meaning to re-read Foundation (last read 40 years ago) for a while, even downloaded it. The whole 'social math', population dynamics thing seems to me to reflect all the Cambridge Analytica, Big Data, and so on stuff that's going on now. Just wondering who The Mutant would be!

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Jan 25, 2020

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

wasn't it literally just a nickname for all Bin Laden's contacts he built up while he was fighting the soviets for the CIA

filed alongside his SNES roms

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish

baka kaba posted:

wasn't it literally just a nickname for all Bin Laden's contacts he built up while he was fighting the soviets for the CIA

filed alongside his SNES roms

AlQaedaV3_1a Final_RevB.xls

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

And his big pile of hentai.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
America killed Bin Laden but a lone British agent blew up the mountain hideout.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Azza Bamboo posted:

America killed Bin Laden but a lone British agent blew up the mountain hideout.

Aye but we only did that because of concerns about it was lowering area house prices

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

baka kaba posted:

wasn't it literally just a nickname for all Bin Laden's contacts he built up while he was fighting the soviets for the CIA

filed alongside his SNES roms

IIRC it was the cryptonym for the mujahadeen compound in Tora Bora, and the FBI misunderstanding/deliberately misrepresenting this as the name of a large criminal organisation in the 90s WTC bombing trial led to it being applied to anyone who'd ever spoken to anyone who'd ever attended that compound.

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