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MichiganCubbie posted:I hope Mike is happy I have identified a fatal flaw in your reasoning 
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What's TDS in this context? I don't really want to continue this thread too much, because it does not make me laugh, it just makes me sad. This person has very strongly held beliefs, and they're legitimately very upset. I just want to know why. It's not entirely clear from these if they're politically reactionary, or just reactionary about entertainment that's perceived to be a bit different than what they grew up with. And I don't want to watch any of their dumb videos to find out.
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MichiganCubbie posted:I'm really curious to see what RedLetterMedia has to say about this. I hope Mike is happy with it. I select 'Redlettermedia', right click - find in google. First link is their channel. Clicked on it and found a recent familiar title review. its The Mandalorian. Clicked on it then clicked right in the middle to pass all the intros and bla bla stuff. I get a scene of ShutUp Crusher in the Mandalorian review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efskcq_mqv4&t=1407s LMAO, already like those guys, will definitely watch later. Eiba posted:I just want to know why. It's not entirely clear from these if they're politically reactionary, or just reactionary about entertainment that's perceived to be a bit different than what they grew up with. They are the kind of haters SW and GOT8 defenders refer to in their defences. Overly salty, unreasonably hate-y nerds who base their insinuations only on their expectations and strong views on 'how it should have been'. Also way too much of them to disregard the fact are bigots in one way or another. Erulisse fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jan 25, 2020 |
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Jan 25, 2020 18:53
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Eiba posted:What's TDS in this context? Trump Derangement Syndrom. She is mad that popular culture is making fun of her big wet orange god emperor, as pop culture is want to do of people who become President, even when they don't hold monstrously cartoonish worldviews. It does not compute to her that Trek has always been a mirror to its modern real world political landscape, and Picard and Discovery are a mirror to post-2016 Hellworld politics.
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Jan 25, 2020 18:55
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AntherUslessPoster posted:LMAO, already like those guys, will definitely watch later. Be warned though, the only poo poo of theirs worth watching is the stuff that highlights Mike and Rich. Jay is a whiny little poo poo who goes out of his way to poo poo all over anything that isn't a 70's giallo flick. Jay has also gotten increasingly misogynistic over the years. gently caress Jay. The Star Trek stuff should be fine though, it's almost always just Mike and Rich talking about it.
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Jan 25, 2020 18:56
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The RLM guys love star trek and also love making GBS threads on bad trek. I can't wait for their review. Also, rich is the kid from the dick the birthday boy picture.
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Jan 25, 2020 18:57
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nine-gear crow posted:Anyway, viewership numbers are starting to trickle in, and Picard's first episode was the most watched single broadcast in the history of CTV Sci-Fi/Space Channel in Canada. God only knows how well its doing on Amazon Prime and CBS Access if it did this well on a Canadian basic cable broadcast network. CTV Sci-Fi has a lot of hours to fill in a day and shows endless reruns of Xena, Andromeda, and Stargate Atlantis, so 'most watched' should be taken in context lol. Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Jan 25, 2020 |
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Jan 25, 2020 18:59
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Binary Logic posted:CTV Sci-Fi has a lot of hours to fill in a day and shows endless reruns of Xena, Andromeda, and Stargate Atlantis, so 'most watched' should be taken in context lol. They're also a first-run primetime broadcaster for shows like Arrow, Supernatural, Discovery, Doctor Who, and The Expanse. Even "in context" this is loving huge for them. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jan 25, 2020 |
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Jan 25, 2020 19:07
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nine-gear crow posted:Trump Derangement Syndrom. She is mad that popular culture is making fun of her big wet orange god emperor, as pop culture is want to do of people who become President, even when they don't hold monstrously cartoonish worldviews. It does not compute to her that Trek has always been a mirror to its modern real world political landscape, and Picard and Discovery are a mirror to post-2016 Hellworld politics. People like that lady have caused me to quantify "I think Discovery was really bad" with "but I'm not a nazi" whenever it comes up in polite conversation
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The problem with modern Star Trek is political correctness gone mad. Where are the lessons about hard work, drugs and gangs?
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All I can say to finish off the discussion about that red haired weirdo nerdy hater is another 'indirect detail' (she uses a lot of those). Everyone here knows Patrick Stewart, right? And can google a bit feedback from another actors, his award nominations and all that. Now, summing up and knowing how pure and open hearted he is, how he is a decent human - could he, for any amount of money or else, invite his long time friend Whoopi Goldberg into s2 of Picard, if it got canceled due to bad performance or else lovely reason from anon 'insider'? No way he would. Cojawfee posted:The RLM guys love star trek and also love making GBS threads on bad trek. I can't wait for their review. I won't judge until I see the full season. I just can't. Its not a trek way to do things right in first season  That goes for Discovery s1 too, no matter how much I liked Jason Isaacs' performance.
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Jan 25, 2020 19:23
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Be warned though, the only poo poo of theirs worth watching is the stuff that highlights Mike and Rich. Jay is a whiny little poo poo who goes out of his way to poo poo all over anything that isn't a 70's giallo flick. Jay has also gotten increasingly misogynistic over the years. gently caress Jay. :-( I really like Jay, and the Mike and Jay combo is my favorite. His taste in movies tends to line up decently with mine. How has he been misogynistic?
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MichiganCubbie posted::-( I really like Jay, and the Mike and Jay combo is my favorite. His taste in movies tends to line up decently with mine. How has he been misogynistic? The Half in the Bag review of Captain Marvel is basically Jay going "Brie Larson should smile more" and Mike awkwardly going uhh. It was bad.
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Jan 25, 2020 19:26
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AntherUslessPoster posted:I won't judge until I see the full season. I just can't. Its not a trek way to do things right in first season It’s practically a Trek tradition at this point to have a wonky first season.
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Jan 25, 2020 19:28
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nine-gear crow posted:The Half in the Bag review of Captain Marvel is basically Jay going "Brie Larson should smile more" and Mike awkwardly going uhh. Which is also bizarre because half the movie is her smirking cockily... y'know, like a hotshot Air Force pilot would.
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Gaz-L posted:Which is also bizarre because half the movie is her smirking cockily... y'know, like a hotshot Air Force pilot would. He meant in real life  /
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Jan 25, 2020 19:38
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I think Brie Larsen's lack of charisma in that movie is a genuine criticism. She's been in other stuff where she was good, but I'm not sure if a Grrrl Power superhero is her forté. The screenplay doesn't help either. Is she supposed to act like a hot-shot fighter pilot or a weird brainwashed alien warrior?
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Jan 25, 2020 19:41
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Hmm, I never watched the Captain Marvel review, but that's sad.
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MichiganCubbie posted:Hmm, I never watched the Captain Marvel review, but that's sad. It came up again in their Dark Fate review and he went off on a tangent about the Ghostbusters reboot as well. Jay is like two years away from saying the quiet part out loud.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It came up again in their Dark Fate review and he went off on a tangent about the Ghostbusters reboot as well. Jay is like two years away from saying the quiet part out loud. This is why I stick to Best of the Worst. Stuff like Rich Evans laughing at absurd poo poo/self-owning with his inept turns of phrases, and Mike laughing at old people and being genuinely righteously outraged at animal cruelty are all great. Surviving Edged Weapons is like one of the best 20 minutes of material they’ve ever done.
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Arglebargle III posted:I think Brie Larsen's lack of charisma in that movie is a genuine criticism. She's been in other stuff where she was good, but I'm not sure if a Grrrl Power superhero is her forté. She's supposed to act like the complex person Carol Danvers / VERS rather than a simple archtype and I never saw a problem with her acting
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nine-gear crow posted:This is why I stick to Best of the Worst. Stuff like Rich Evans laughing at absurd poo poo/self-owning with his inept turns of phrases, and Mike laughing at old people and being genuinely righteously outraged at animal cruelty are all great.  They’re better as an ensemble anyway, plus you get the Canadians every now and then on BOTW.
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Jan 25, 2020 20:01
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Jay's replaced by Home Alone kid most of the time now.
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Tighclops posted:People like that lady have caused me to quantify "I think Discovery was really bad" with "but I'm not a nazi" whenever it comes up in polite conversation Yeah. I didn't like Discovery or Last Jedi or GoT S7 or 8 but it pains me to be grouped in with these people. On the other hand, some people immediately group you with racist assholes even if you have legitimate criticisms of the above, which is also really bad.
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pyrotek posted:Yeah. I didn't like Discovery or Last Jedi or GoT S7 or 8 but it pains me to be grouped in with these people. I think the Ghostbusters movie has some okay stuff in it, like Kate McKinnon doing her damnest to keep everything going, and Chris Hemsworth hamming it up. Unfortunately, you can't say that Chris Hemsworth is your favorite part of the new movie, because that leads to all sorts of accusations. I think Discovery has a lot of issues, but I genuinely like a lot of it. Season three starts in April, right?
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MichiganCubbie posted:I think the Ghostbusters movie has some okay stuff in it, like Kate McKinnon doing her damnest to keep everything going, and Chris Hemsworth hamming it up. Unfortunately, you can't say that Chris Hemsworth is your favorite part of the new movie, because that leads to all sorts of accusations. Probably a safe guess, maybe May. They haven’t given any concrete date beyond the first half of 2020.
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pyrotek posted:Yeah. I didn't like Discovery or Last Jedi or GoT S7 or 8 but it pains me to be grouped in with these people. In the end all the fight for equality, minorities and so on led to people still being judged, grouped and name called by what other people saw, read or heard about them without trying to understand. MichiganCubbie posted:Season three starts in April, right? Wow why april? I never heard a date from official sources or any leaked stuff
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AntherUslessPoster posted:Wow why april? I never heard a date from official sources or any leaked stuff CBS and Kurtzman are really intent on year-round Trek and Picard should end in late March/early April.
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AntherUslessPoster posted:In the end all the fight for equality, minorities and so on led to people still being judged, grouped and name called by what other people saw, read or heard about them without trying to understand. I swear I read somewhere a couple months ago that it was coming out in April. No source, though.
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The Bloop posted:She's supposed to act like the complex person Carol Danvers / VERS rather than a simple archtype and I never saw a problem with her acting I think it is a fair criticism that the whole 'gaslit/brainwashed by the Kree' story is a misstep because it alienates (ha! puns) the audience from the character. Like, I get that the idea was probably to engage people with the mystery element, but considering the marketing and the property itself have really always been about Carol Danvers as a human lady who was in the USAF (and sometimes was a magazine editor... comics are weird) it's very odd to me that they've decided that the once or twice she's had amnesia in the comics is now the Most Important Part of her backstory. It'd be like if Spider-Man Far From Home spent the entire first half with Tom Holland growing two extra pairs of arms because of the one time the character did that in the comics in the 80s.
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Gaz-L posted:I think it is a fair criticism that the whole 'gaslit/brainwashed by the Kree' story is a misstep because it alienates (ha! puns) the audience from the character. Like, I get that the idea was probably to engage people with the mystery element, but considering the marketing and the property itself have really always been about Carol Danvers as a human lady who was in the USAF (and sometimes was a magazine editor... comics are weird) it's very odd to me that they've decided that the once or twice she's had amnesia in the comics is now the Most Important Part of her backstory. It'd be like if Spider-Man Far From Home spent the entire first half with Tom Holland growing two extra pairs of arms because of the one time the character did that in the comics in the 80s. I mean sure ok but I think that criticism is almost entirely orthogonal to criticism of Brie Larson's acting
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HD DAD posted:“I don’t like inclusiveness and diversity unless it was in stuff I watched as a literal child. Then it’s okay.” Yeah it's hilarious how chuds don't notice progressive things in media they watched before they were radicalised. So you get chuds saying Fury Road and Captain Marvel are feminist propaganda, but the Terminator and Alien movies are great and don't have any kind of feminist message at all.
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Can you criticize a woman's performance in a role without being a misogynist?
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"I don't care if it's good or not" is the summary of summaries for this poo poo.
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Arglebargle III posted:Can you criticize a woman's performance in a role without being a misogynist? Yes, by providing an actual criticism, and not "she should smile more and show more skin"
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MichiganCubbie posted:I swear I read somewhere a couple months ago that it was coming out in April. No source, though. Big Mean Jerk posted:CBS and Kurtzman are really intent on year-round Trek and Picard should end in late March/early April. I can only get SO erect. Thanks on the info, it seems very plausible
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Arglebargle III posted:Can you criticize a woman's performance in a role without being a misogynist? Absolutely. Have you never seen a Rebel Wilson film?
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