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Kerosene19
May 7, 2007


https://twitter.com/SeaTacAirport/status/1220812126404526080

Nothing can possibly go wrong with this lift.

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priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Is that a passenger walkway that planes go under? That’s pretty neat.

They better have a glass floor!

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

The Real Amethyst posted:

Youtube live stream here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKXu06VaxLI
Currently holding due to weather.
What i want to know is why the hell fold-able wings even necessary for a 777?

It's not a new idea, they played with the idea of folding wingtips back in the 1990s when they were drawing up the original 777-200 for the same reasons - gate space. Supposedly it helped bring American Airlines onboard, but in the event they didn't actually implement it.

Tenchrono
Jun 2, 2011


Carrier planes have folding wingtips :shrug:.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
Yeah, folding wings as a concept aren't remotely new, but this is the first time they've been used on an airliner to my knowledge.

IMO they should have gone whole-hog and made the wings fold at mid-span so you could fit the plane into a gate sized for an RJ. Imagine the convenience!

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Have them fold at the fuselage, that'll turn some heads.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Sagebrush posted:

Yeah, folding wings as a concept aren't remotely new, but this is the first time they've been used on an airliner to my knowledge.

IMO they should have gone whole-hog and made the wings fold at mid-span so you could fit the plane into a gate sized for an RJ. Imagine the convenience!

I feel challenged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uQ07D6ICmc

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Sagebrush posted:

Yeah, folding wings as a concept aren't remotely new, but this is the first time they've been used on an airliner to my knowledge.

IMO they should have gone whole-hog and made the wings fold at mid-span so you could fit the plane into a gate sized for an RJ. Imagine the convenience!

You lose massive fueling capacity that way.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

FAT CURES MUSCLES posted:

Carrier planes have folding wingtips :shrug:.

Carrier planes can be down for maintenance for a lot longer than a passenger airliner is expected to be.

The 1 engine out and wings folded approaches they'll inevitably have to do during certification will probably be interesting.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Solkanar512 posted:

You lose massive fueling capacity that way.

Boeing brain: put fuel in the folding parts

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Sagebrush posted:

this is currently just 47,000 people typing F to pay respects

If it’s a Boeing, it ain’t going!

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Platystemon posted:

Boeing brain: put fuel in the folding parts

I want to see the actuator that would be able to lift half the wing while fueled up, that would be nuts.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Solkanar512 posted:

I want to see the actuator that would be able to lift half the wing while fueled up, that would be nuts.

* Folding not available at maximum fuel load.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


folding wingtips on a 777 sounds dumb as gently caress

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



loving around browsing the ADSB exchange. Apparently someone decided to take a self launching sailplane crosscountry

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
How many sailplanes can fly 400 knots?

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Sagebrush posted:

How many sailplanes can fly 400 knots?

Against the jetstream? Not many.

--or--

After the wings fall off? All of them, once.

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

Sagebrush posted:

How many sailplanes can fly 400 knots?

For sailplanes that are actually a Bombardier Global Express, probably all of them.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



Craptacular posted:

For sailplanes that are actually a Bombardier Global Express, probably all of them.

Look at mr fun ruiner here

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Elviscat posted:

Have them fold at the fuselage, that'll turn some heads.

Put swing wings on them :colbert:

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Platystemon posted:

* Folding not available at maximum fuel load.

Easy, just dump fuel before you land.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



But finding the nearest schoolyard in time

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Sagebrush posted:

IMO they should have gone whole-hog and made the wings fold at mid-span so you could fit the plane into a gate sized for an RJ. Imagine the convenience!

Love too be in seat 93Q while the entire airplane un-asses via a 12" wide airstair.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
So first flight of the 777X is being given another go. Conditions look a whole lot better.

Livestream: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777x/first-flight#/webcast

ATC: https://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=KPAE

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

MikeCrotch posted:

Put swing wings on them :colbert:

Has a swing wing commercial airliner ever made it out of the napkin drawing phase?

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

Platystemon posted:

Boeing brain: put fuel in the folding parts

There are military planes with folding wings that have fuel in the part that folds back.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
777X finally on the runway.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777x/first-flight#/webcast

Way less KC-46s littering Paine Field than there were last year around this time.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jan 25, 2020

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

bloops posted:

Has a swing wing commercial airliner ever made it out of the napkin drawing phase?

The Boeing supersonic transport originally had swing wings but this was taken out of the design eventually

So, no.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

BIG HEADLINE posted:

777X finally on the runway.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777x/first-flight#/webcast

Way less KC-46s littering Paine Field than there were last year around this time.

Guess it's in the air now

:toot:

God help them if something goes horribly awry with this.

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

slidebite posted:


God help them if something goes horribly awry with this.

They left the gear and flaps down so whatever lovely code they’ve got in the FCCs couldn’t kill them yet

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



Aw it's only the tips that fold so it just looks like an overgrown 73 with scimitar tips

Go full carrier fold you cowards :unsmigghh:

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Just make the tips auto-fold when a sensor detects it has landed and is taxiing, no need to complicate pilot training with any additional lights or checklists or buttons.

Ola fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jan 25, 2020

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
For redundancy you'd better have two sensors though! Hook one up to the right and the other to the left. Then they can't interfere with each other

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Ola posted:

Just make the tips auto-fold when a sensor detects it has landed and is taxiing, no need to complicate pilot training with any additional lights or checklists or buttons.

truly this could be managed with GPS and an airport database, WoW and out of the gate area? wings down

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

e.pilot posted:

truly this could be managed with GPS and an airport database, WoW and out of the gate area? wings down

:catstare:

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
Have them go up and down real fast for VTOL

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Keith Atherton posted:

Have them go up and down real fast for VTOL

Boeing ornithopter :barf:

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Keith Atherton posted:

Have them go up and down real fast for VTOL

Best response.

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



You guys are really over complicating this. Just attach the mechanism to a lidar based system that determines if an object is going to collide with them, map it in space and have it move them based on the required calculated angle to avoid it. It can then move back once it is cleared. This system will be running 24/7.

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priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Midjack posted:

Boeing ornithopter :barf:

Dune movie tie in!!

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