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speaking of, weren't they saying that like every single one of the original batch of patients developed pneumonia? it doesn't sound like that happened with the latter cases. just bad info or is it too early in all the new cases or something?
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snoo posted:"The most frequently reported symptoms were 40 (98%) with fever, 31 (76%) with cough, and 18 (44%) with muscle aches and tiredness. Less frequent symptoms included coughing sputum or blood, headache and diarrhea." x Missed the most important part https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext quote:41 admitted hospital patients had been identified as having laboratory-confirmed 2019-nCoV infection. Most of the infected patients were men (30 [73%] of 41); less than half had underlying diseases (13 [32%]), including diabetes (eight [20%]), hypertension (six [15%]), and cardiovascular disease (six [15%]). Median age was 49·0 years (IQR 41·0–58·0). 27 (66%) of 41 patients had been exposed to Huanan seafood market. One family cluster was found. Common symptoms at onset of illness were fever (40 [98%] of 41 patients), cough (31 [76%]), and myalgia or fatigue (18 [44%]); less common symptoms were sputum production (11 [28%] of 39), headache (three [8%] of 38), haemoptysis (two [5%] of 39), and diarrhoea (one [3%] of 38). Dyspnoea developed in 22 (55%) of 40 patients (median time from illness onset to dyspnoea 8·0 days [IQR 5·0–13·0]). 26 (63%) of 41 patients had lymphopenia. All 41 patients had pneumonia with abnormal findings on chest CT. Complications included acute respiratory distress syndrome (12 [29%]), RNAaemia (six [15%]), acute cardiac injury (five [12%]) and secondary infection (four [10%]). 13 (32%) patients were admitted to an ICU and six (15%) died. Compared with non-ICU patients, ICU patients had higher plasma levels of IL2, IL7, IL10, GSCF, IP10, MCP1, MIP1A, and TNFα.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:speaking of, weren't they saying that like every single one of the original batch of patients developed pneumonia? it doesn't sound like that happened with the latter cases. just bad info or is it too early in all the new cases or something? It sounds like everyone who was *hospitalized* in December had pneumonia, but for all we know there were younger members of their families/other people they came in contact with who probably also got the virus but were asymptomatic (just at the time? became symptomatic later?) Still too early to tell on a lot of it
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 06:12 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:Missed the most important part yeah, this is not the symptoms of the first 41 cases, but rather 41 out of 59 cases of pneumonia in a cluster where hospitalization occurred. this is serious, a 15% mortality rate in pneumonia for hospitalizations is high, but the study here is limited both in sample size and in population representation.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:speaking of, weren't they saying that like every single one of the original batch of patients developed pneumonia? it doesn't sound like that happened with the latter cases. just bad info or is it too early in all the new cases or something? there would be absolutely no way to know this. Of a group of 59 hospitalizations of pneumonia, 41 of them had the Wuhan coronavirus. That's literally the study.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 06:21 |
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my anus is bleeding my spoon is too big
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 06:24 |
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Schnorkles posted:there would be absolutely no way to know this. haha ok that makes more sense then
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 06:30 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:Missed the most important part I know what CNN said about Plague Inc but I also know what Plague Inc said about this
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:haha ok that makes more sense then I think the thing to note is that the numbers we're seeing are basically that its a more dangerous form of pneumonia that requires intubation in a higher percentage of population and, as such, likely has a higher mortality rate. this combined with it being very contagious means that we're going to see a lot more absolute cases of pneumonia and early data is that those cases of pneumonia will have worse outcomes than normal CAP. The percentage of overall cases of coronavirus that become pneumonia is not known and i dunno when/if we'll be getting estimates on that. That's not an easy thing to suss out.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 06:36 |
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https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1221670427052793856?s=20
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 06:47 |
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wild how a thing that makes us sneeze, cough, and poo poo blood out our asses can kill us
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 06:57 |
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well, yea but arby's has a negative r0 rate
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 07:09 |
hey in contagion Gwyneth Paltrow dies in the first 5 minutes does that mean umm
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 07:13 |
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yes all the women will die first
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 07:19 |
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https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1221676349678485504?s=20
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 07:19 |
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Equivalent to the population of Italy. https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1221651024420753408
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 07:20 |
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snoo posted:me, with cough, muscle aches, headache and diarrhea: oh boy quote:Coronaviruses are enveloped, positive-sense, singlestranded RNA viruses, capable of rapid mutation and
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 07:32 |
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oh only 5,000? 5,000 out of a city of how many?
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 07:33 |
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https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ypKdQbavRqGW
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 07:38 |
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START CLOSING BORDERS
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 07:47 |
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The Associated Press has just published a useful list of the latest figures on coronavirus infections. It says these are up-to-date as of midday on Monday in Beijing: China: 2,744, with 769 of those newly confirmed in the 24 hours through midnight Sunday. Five are in Hong Kong and two in Macao. Nearly all of the 80 deaths have been in Hubei province, with four elsewhere in China. United States: 5, 2 in southern California and 1 each in Washington state, Chicago, and Arizona. Thailand: 8 Australia: 5 South Korea: 4 Japan: 4 Singapore: 4 Malaysia: 4 France: 3 Taiwan: 3 Vietnam: 2 Canada: 1 Nepal: 1
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 07:49 |
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The field will kick in any minute now, and we will never hear of this again.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 08:06 |
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So as long as I do not let more than 5.74 people be in the room with me, I'm golden, right?!?!
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 08:15 |
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 08:24 |
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where is this new R0 of 5.7 coming from? Yesterday it was like 2.6 or something
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 08:24 |
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MarcusSA posted:where is this new R0 of 5.7 coming from? Yesterday it was like 2.6 or something https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.916395v1
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 08:30 |
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thanks and well that sucks. quote:With rising report rate, the mean R0 is likely to be below 5 but above 3. Conclusion: The mean estimate of R0 for the 2019-nCoV ranges from 3.30 (95%CI: 2.73-3.96) to 5.47 (95%CI: 4.16-7.10), and significantly larger than 1. Our findings indicate the potential of 2019-nCoV to cause outbreaks.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 08:32 |
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https://twitter.com/hayesluk/status/1221692839785979906
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 08:37 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:Missed the most important part almost certain that anyone older than 40 is going to have something on their chest ct
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 08:40 |
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So is this actually a big one unlike SARS/bird flu/pig flu?
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 08:43 |
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1221454177123086336?s=20
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 09:01 |
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Lol
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 09:03 |
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https://twitter.com/ProMED_mail/status/1221638658123599873
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 09:10 |
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Not only are the shifty mainlanders are attempting to deal with this flu crisis, but are "attempting" to use it to put down the HKers. https://twitter.com/shiroihamusan/status/1221472216446947329?s=20
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 09:13 |
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Failson posted:The field will kick in any minute now, and we will never hear of this again. Exactly. People always forget that it also stops bad things from happening
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 09:18 |
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Ora Tzo posted:Not only are the shifty mainlanders are attempting to deal with this flu crisis, but are "attempting" to use it to put down the HKers. Chinese bio weapon confirmed
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 09:29 |
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Interesting bit. quote:These numbers fit very nicely to case data available as of January 22, 2020, but unfortunately, they are wrong. The abrupt surge in confirmed case counts (to 1423 cases as of January 26, 2020) is not compatible with the growth process described above, certainly not with a SARS-compatible generation time of 6-10 days. Indeed, the authors of the MRC model (3) noted in one of their earlier reports that the volume of observed exported cases in countries outside China suggested a much larger underlying epidemic than had been reported at that time, and this epidemic may have begun a month prior to the recognition of the market-associated outbreak, consistent with the reported timing of viral emergence based on phylogenetic analyses (5). The authors of several analyses cited above have incorporated the MRC estimates of under-reporting in order to fit their models (2, 3, 5). A second line of evidence suggesting undercounting of cases relates to the older age of cases (median 59 years in early reports), and the even older age of fatal cases (averaging around 75 years in the first 17 deaths) as contrasted with a median age of 37 or 38 years in China. Increased age in cases as compared to the population as a whole suggests that younger (likely milder) cases have been under-reported. As such, it would seem likely that at least part of the sudden apparent growth in case counts does not reflect changes in transmission, but rather increasing ascertainment of previously undercounted cases.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 09:34 |
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Just wondering, if you get exposed to the virus and recover you get immune to it right?
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 09:42 |
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HK protesters have baby brains. https://twitter.com/hoccgoomusic/status/1221286044072435715?s=20
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