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Harrow posted:If I pick up the Dusk collection, should I just play them in order, or would any of them be a better entry for someone who's new to the Atelier series? I've heard the best things about Escha & Logy as an entry point but that was years ago and I can't remember the reason given. Yes. For all of my complaints about Ayesha, I still enjoyed it and it took 13 hours to blow through. So you won't be forced to sit through a 60+ hour jrpg just to get to the good content (unlike ffxiv, though I wound up really liking that 60+ hour jrpg) and you get excited when you spot returning characters in Escha. Also hopefully your tastes will mean that you love Ayesha as much as everyone else does! It's a really charming game with beautiful music and I hope that I can come back to it in some months and do a guided playthrough and finally fall in love with it. Ayesha's cheerful roadtrip around a pastoral region helping people with their problems while investigating her main mystery is such a good concept. For comparison it took me 27 hours to finish Sophie (all character events, no bonus bosses). cheetah7071 posted:There's a bonus for front row. Back row gains more points than out of party as well, but everybody gains at least a few points every day no matter what. Good to know. Awin's been in my party front line at least until Threia joined up, then he was shuffled into the back because hello, I love her. Thanks for the help!
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Last question before I buy my first Atelier game: would you all recommend starting with Ayesha (and the Dusk trilogy as a whole) or Ryza?
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I'd say start with Ayesha but it really comes down to how you feel about time limits. If you think the presence of a time limit will detract from your enjoyment, go with Ryza.
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Ryza has a very easy to understand alchemy system but its combat system is a whole different animal from the rest of modern atelier Ayesha (or L&S or Rorona for other switch titles) would be your best bets to start with Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jan 23, 2020 |
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Jan 23, 2020 21:46
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Ryza has a very easy to understand alchemy system but its combat system is a whole different animal from the rest of modern atelier dusk games are on switch now
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Jan 23, 2020 21:52
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The only problem with Ryza's combat is if I want to bring a freaking million bombs with me I should be able not restricted to just a few!!!
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Jan 23, 2020 22:35
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Ryza has basically the same bomb philosophy that the games have had since E&L, where consumables are limited per trip instead of competing with items you gather for basket space. It definitely didn't feel like that big of a departure from Mysterious or late Dusk.
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Jan 23, 2020 22:40
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You can't expect me to remember how games I played more than a year ago worked
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The main difference is that they compete with each other in using an MP-like resource when you used them
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Do you ever get any more core whatever or is 10 max, cos I've already got items I can only use twice before I have to lose one.
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Jan 23, 2020 22:48
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Sakurazuka posted:Do you ever get any more core whatever or is 10 max, cos I've already got items I can only use twice before I have to lose one. Your core value does go up yeah. Don't remember how though
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Jan 23, 2020 22:49
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Game designers have spent decades of research trying to make consumables fun. The conclusion: make them not consumable.
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https://twitter.com/marui_anime/status/1220541912374841346 A great way to buy the $80 DLC packs
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I’m still kind of surprised there isn’t DLC or anything to make Bos a party member. He just seems like somebody who should be playable.
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nrook posted:I’m still kind of surprised there isn’t DLC or anything to make Bos a party member. He just seems like somebody who should be playable. The series has traditionally reprised characters in sequels. I'd be very unsurprised if he came back in Ryza 2.
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Jan 24, 2020 05:56
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Add Kilo, Agatha, Bos and for comedy Lumbar. Maybe even Lent's dad in some kinda side story thingy.
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Sakurazuka posted:Do you ever get any more core whatever or is 10 max, cos I've already got items I can only use twice before I have to lose one. You get more, and you get an ability to restore some after each combat.
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The Ryza application does have 3 placeholder DLC character slots, but unlike with other games there's nothing there to hint that they were planning anything else.
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How long is Lydie and Suelle? We just met the lightning god for the first time and failed to kill him. I'm finishing the ice palace level now. I suppose... how much longer have I got? I'm enjoying it but trying to actually finish some games this year.
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I think you're about halfway. It's a reasonably long game and when they dropped the DLC they added a bunch of scenes even for people who didn't buy it I think
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That seems about right for how far I am in the rankings. drat. I was going to play some games tonight but my wife stayed up late and we watched tv. it's 11:18 now and time for bed.
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redreader posted:How long is Lydie and Suelle? We just met the lightning god for the first time and failed to kill him. I'm finishing the ice palace level now. I suppose... how much longer have I got? I'm enjoying it but trying to actually finish some games this year. you're halfway in terms of the chapter mark but (filler) chapter 7 aside, every chapter from here on out will be progressively longer now that the cast is filled out and you'll be spending much more time with all your new friends in between exams and painting explorations on another note i'm mostly? through ayesha? i've finally gotten to the stage where i'm stopping collecting flowers and now refining flower oils i'd definitely put ayesha up there along with L&S in terms of my favorite, the game's got incredibly strong direction and narrative and the cast is easy as colorful and charming
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Jan 26, 2020 01:32
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are we gonna see an Ayesha LP in our future
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Jan 26, 2020 03:20
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I'm digging Ryza so far as my first Atelier. I'm kinda bummed on the combat being a bit frantic but it's good so far. I think I'd like combat more if it wasn't wanting me to switch characters often or time hits. 
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nearing the end of rorona and idk how to feel about the fact that going out of town nowadays take half a month or whatever there's supposed to be an endless mode afterwards, right? I want to build good poo poo, and it's hard when I don't have time to gather good ingredients.
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Irritated Goat posted:I'm digging Ryza so far as my first Atelier. I'm kinda bummed on the combat being a bit frantic but it's good so far. I think I'd like combat more if it wasn't wanting me to switch characters often or time hits. You get used to the speed, it's not really very complex it just doesn't give you a lot of time to think. My main annoyance is still that you have tons of interesting looking items but you can only bring along like 7 or 8 max so I just bring one of each element damage, a heal and a rez.
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Tired Moritz posted:nearing the end of rorona and idk how to feel about the fact that going out of town nowadays take half a month or whatever Have you made the item that reduces travel time? I forget what it's called but it uses the workshop decoration feature. The Rorona postgame isn't endless. It's just a bonus year with very little story and a ton of superbosses
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cheetah7071 posted:Have you made the item that reduces travel time? I forget what it's called but it uses the workshop decoration feature. I got the boots but I feel like it barely makes a difference. The lack of an endless mode is kinda sad. I guess I'll never be able to beat up some super bosses without multiple new game+s at the rate that I'm going.
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I’m definitely winding down with Ayesha and only have a few more months in the game Am very relieved that the final boss went down much easier than the slag boss though that one was a real piece of work
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I’m definitely winding down with Ayesha and only have a few more months in the game I got stuck at the meadow before you get to the floating islands area. I didn't realise that you advance areas (or whatever it is) by just, gathering enough times in an area. I posted a lot about it online, went all the way across the map, etc etc, and then realised after wasting maybe 2 months, that I just needed to gather a couple more flowers in an area to be able to advance. I did finish in time but felt rushed at the end because of that fuckup.
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Unlocking new areas is based on completing the travel objective in that location, which means killing all the enemies in a single trip and gathering there a number of times equal to the number of gathering locations (over any number of trips)
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Come to think of it there were some recipes I was never able to unlock (namely Everpure Water) which stopped me from being able to do a few last requests to pick up more cash I get the feeling this would involve spending more money at shops to raise their levels but I don’t know the turnaround until when new books could be available
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Jan 27, 2020 21:19
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I'm pretty sure I'm missing a book from somewhere but I have no idea where.
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They’re all pretty pricy and I’m pretty sure I spent more than enough money on registered bombs and Genug Water Pots that I couldn’t buy all the books I haven’t already
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32GB Switch Cartridge All 3 games are on one cartridge. No downloads Game is region coded to Asia. You cannot claim gold coins from the Eshop Dehry fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Jan 27, 2020 22:14
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Ever pure water was from one of the books the cowgirl randomly stocked after I'd stopped checking what she sells because I thought I'd bought all the books iirc Best way to make money is win the treasure contest every six months, they're not that hard apart from the last one and you get a ton of money from them.
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I'm pretty sure you can buy Everpure water from the Library at some point?
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Esty's ticket equipment looks so good but they seem like a trap... But that equipment that makes all the dudes really fast is quite tempting.
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