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This doesn't make sense from any angle whatsoever, it is embarrassingly easy to argue with.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:00
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Just a complete lie
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Jan 27, 2020 19:02
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Grouchio posted:.....Et Tu Senate? https://twitter.com/SenateGOP/status/1221848184902815744 seems the official line is this. it doesnt work but gently caress if i know.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:03
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/SenateGOP/status/1221848184902815744 It doesn't? I mean, yes in the face of logic it obviously doesn't work, but the Senators aren't operating with that as a prerequisite.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:04
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I mean, ALL of the facts do still remain unchanged and uncontested, so in a way they are right??? It's clear was day before any of the leak came out that there was a violation.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:04
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hard to contest the facts under oath, I suppose
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Jan 27, 2020 19:05
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Attempted murder, what is that? Do they give a Nobel prize for attempted chemistry?
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Jan 27, 2020 19:08
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/SenateGOP/status/1221848184902815744 John Bolton has apparently switched parties now according to this tweet
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Jan 27, 2020 19:09
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https://twitter.com/byrdinator/status/1221852168166301697 thats 50 i think.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:09
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Starting to feel all this gaslighting might actually blow up.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:10
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they are running with the transcript being perfect.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:11
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Rauros posted:Starting to feel all this gaslighting might actually blow up. Well sure. Trump is mostly gas, so apply more fire and surely something will blow Put him under more pressure and surely he'll lose his temper even more and say things he never intended to say.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:13
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The thing is time and time again there's been damning evidence that would be more than enough to convict in any trial for multiple things Trump has done and the GOP has just claimed it doesn't matter and done the whole "The Democrats are just being unfair to Trump blahblahblahblah" so I don't see why Bolton's coming back into the limelight is supposed to matter to them. They just tend to immediately turn on anybody that dares criticize or point out damning things about Trump who is the only thing that really seems to matter at all to the GOP anymore. They're literally the party of "hey let's bend over backwards and do everything in our power to make sure this one guy out of 100's of millions in this country gets his way every single time". They have nothing, NOTHING going on anymore but undying support for this one guy and utter disdain for anyone that doesn't. That's THE soul remaining overriding GOP policy, more important than conservatism, religion, guns or whatever else they used to always be on about. This isn't even me trying to be all "Nothing Matters", so much as literally just look at the facts and their behavior and talking points since Trump got elected. Nothing is going to change unless the majorities in the senate change basically and America decides enough is enough already and that it wants something at least resembling a real democratic government. The only real takeaway here is that all these bombshell developments after bombshell developments that in any other less partisan era under just about any other set of circumstances should have sunk Trump's bullshit dozens of times over just keeps forcing them to move the goalposts almost every other day now. They keep having to scramble new defenses and hard bullshit as to why it apparently doesn't matter and why they should charge forward to acquittal like they have everything else they've done in the senate in the last 4 years only to an almost surreal degree. Like I don't think they were expecting it to go THIS insanely badly for their defense case (it shouldn't really be a defense case but a fact examination mission in the senate) and having to ignore and spin so much to the point where it doesn't even make sense to all but the Fox News bubble people, but the only thing that remains to be seen is whether in can make a dent in the hyper-partisanship thing come November. Kale fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jan 27, 2020 |
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Jan 27, 2020 19:13
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yeah, there defense is pretty dumb bad so far.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:15
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Sitting here watching Ken Starr complaining about partisan bias in impeachment OMG arguing that the independent counsel investigation is unconstitutional
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Jan 27, 2020 19:22
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah, there defense is pretty dumb bad so far. I don't entirely think they give a poo poo obviously, they just have a certain amount of time to fill to make it look like there's something of a process and give Fox News a chance to do their spin before they vote to acquit and act like shitheads about it the entire way. Just screaming and snarling and hurling bile at Democrats for actually doing their jobs in being responsible to voters as senators/house reps here. I still can't wait to see what the GOP policy drive for 2020 is going to be come summer because I just can't see there being one. Being a Republican just means praising and defending Trump against criticism and smearing Democrats so if that's all people want America to be about then sure vote for your local Republican candidate come November. Just loving ridiculous man....like Jesus..... 
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Jan 27, 2020 19:26
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Jesus here I am sitting here listening to Ken loving Starr talking about Whitefuckingwater in front of a Senate impeachment trial in 20fucking20. What a world. Edit: He sounds like he's going for the impeachment equivalent of jury nullification. SubG fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jan 27, 2020 |
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Jan 27, 2020 19:27
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Yeah, Collins, Murkowski, and Romney gets to 50. We'll probably see Gardner as well, he's been laying low so far. Tillis and Ernst have both made noises about not supporting witnesses, so I think we might be topped out away 51 right now.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:29
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SubG posted:Jesus here I am sitting here listening to Ken loving Starr talking about Whitefuckingwater in front of a Senate impeachment trial in 20fucking20. What a world. Weird how the GOP can't let poo poo go, ever.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:30
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Ken Starr is blaming impeachment on the Civil loving War.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:33
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This is the most boring thing I’ve ever heard in my life.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:33
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Ken Starr: Impeachment is bad! Don't do it! At no point has anyone attempted yet to defend the president against the charges.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:33
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For the first 100 years of our republic no impeachment... BUT WERE THERE BAD PRESIDENTS BACK THEN? OF COURSE
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Jan 27, 2020 19:33
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poo poo if I was Bolton I'd be clamoring to testify so I could pull a Mueller to increase sales. "I, ahem, defer to the
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Jan 27, 2020 19:34
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I want this to be on his gravestone.
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refleks posted:For the first 100 years of our republic no impeachment... BUT WERE THERE BAD PRESIDENTS BACK THEN? OF COURSE
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Jan 27, 2020 19:35
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two parties, impeaching each other, back and forth forever
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Jan 27, 2020 19:36
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a_pineapple posted:two parties, impeaching each other, back and forth forever Sounds fuckin hot
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Kale posted:The thing is time and time again there's been damning evidence that would be more than enough to convict in any trial for multiple things Trump has done and the GOP has just claimed it doesn't matter and done the whole "The Democrats are just being unfair to Trump blahblahblahblah" so I don't see why Bolton's coming back into the limelight is supposed to matter to them. They just tend to immediately turn on anybody that dares criticize or point out damning things about Trump who is the only thing that really seems to matter at all to the GOP anymore. They're literally the party of "hey let's bend over backwards and do everything in our power to make sure this one guy out of 100's of millions in this country gets his way every single time". They have nothing, NOTHING going on anymore but undying support for this one guy and utter disdain for anyone that doesn't. That's THE soul remaining overriding GOP policy, more important than conservatism, religion, guns or whatever else they used to always be on about. More than half the country is in favor of impeachment and removal. If Amy McGrath beats McConnell in Kentucky because of this fuckery it’s all worth it. Without him the ship collapses in the senate, even if the senate is still majority R. People aren’t going to fall in line under barraso or Romney or Grassley.
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God, the blatantly disingenuous arguments coming from Starr's face makes my blood boil. "Britain got rid of impeachment  "Yes they did you dipshit and also got rid of direct executive branch elections and they have votes of no confidence instead to remove a worthless poo poo in charge. He's trying to argue other nations have a higher standard for removal from office than America when this blatantly is not true. gently caress you, Starr.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:41
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im already falling asleep Ken
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Jan 27, 2020 19:42
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Xaiter posted:God, the blatantly disingenuous arguments coming from Starr's face makes my blood boil. Other nations also regularly update their constitution, not just add to it.
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BigglesSWE posted:I want this to be on his gravestone. Nah, that'll be 
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Wilbur Swain posted:Ken Starr: Impeachment is bad! Don't do it! they can't. the base they are catering to thinks its fine and trump will get pissy if it paints him as less than perfect god emperor. https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1221864684984336384?s=21
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eke out posted:im already falling asleep Ken Loss of consciousness is a symptom of irony poisoning.
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lol https://twitter.com/JesseCharlesLee/status/1221867274216394754
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FizFashizzle posted:Yes. it was going to be on fareed zakaria's show. they had actually scheduled the time they were going to announce the investigation. they ended up cancelling when all this poo poo came out.
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Jan 27, 2020 19:49
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Fascists are immune to charges of hypocrisy. They don't care.
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SubG posted:Edit: He sounds like he's going for the impeachment equivalent of jury nullification. Technically that's what is going to almost certainly happen.
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