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Any character can take a neutral skill from E to C+ (460 points) in 23 weeks purely with dual goals on Maddening, or 29 weeks on a weakness. For just C it's 300 points, so 15 weeks if neutral or 19 if weak. There are 26 lecture weeks in White Clouds, 17 of them in chapter 6 or later when your starting class should have all their intermediate class requirements and you should be picking up most of your recruits. There's one less if you pick Crimson Flower because there's no teaching in chapter 12 there. 17 weeks for Shamir learning riding give her 340 points, which is 40 past C rank, the minimum qualification level. You can supplement that with extra teaching (5 weeks' worth at most with statue bonus, and probably less) or just stick her on a horse for a while to get the extra 120 skill exp in combat.
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Cool, thanks
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So I just finished Azure Moon. I started it immediately upon finishing Crimson Flower back in August and eventually petered out around chapter 15 or so in October-ish before picking it back up and finishing it this past week. I don't read this thread so feel free to ignore this since I've heard the legends of the Edelgard Discourse™ and don't want to reignite it if possible. I also don't know the current spoiler policy so I'll just be safe and blackbar it. My general feeling is that I don't like Dimitri. His character arc and redemption story fell kind of flat for me, and I basically never agreed with his ideals, mentality, or goals. I don't think it was a matter of having played his story after Edelgard's or anything because I pretty immediately disliked almost all of the Church people, way before the "twist" with the Flame Emperor became apparent to me, and if I had picked Blue Lions on my first playthrough I definitely would have been pretty reluctant to partner up with them and try to go save Rhea. My feeling from pretty early on with this game has consistently been "man, gently caress the Church." So naturally I side with Edelgard on most things (certainly not everything), and I find her story and motivations and all that jazz to be more enjoyable and likable than Dimitri's. It's really a shame that this was one of the two routes that got to get finished and CF didn't.
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So, here's some neat fanart   https://einsbern.tumblr.com/-for the artist Lord Cyrahzax fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jan 27, 2020 |
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Jan 27, 2020 17:19
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u should source it. fare well
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Super No Vacancy posted:u should source it. fare well Oh, right. Edited in
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I really like the Dimitri art 
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imagine this: the buns on the side of Edelgard's head are made of bread, and it's called Breadelgard
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Edelburger
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https://twitter.com/theprinceofiris/status/1222152626931994625?s=19
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what to heck is a drama cd
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indigi posted:what to heck is a drama cd They're basically radio plays.
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So who's going to do the Big Boss/Miller sauna fight? Dimitri and Felix?
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Given that the sauna fight was over Kaz’s sexual escapades, it’s definitely Dimitri and Sylvain
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indigi posted:what to heck is a drama cd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng22sDQPodo&t=138s
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In a surprise twist, the drama CD will have a hour long track that is nothing but Alois and Seteth performing dad jokes.
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I'd buy that. Seteth's Big Dad Energy is my favourite thing.
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Smash online currently consists about 50% of edelgard-colored byleths
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Amppelix posted:Smash online currently consists about 50% of edelgard-colored byleths As is good and correct until Byleth-colored Edelgards come out.
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I didn't think no-stat levels were possible in this game, that it was hard-coded to give at least 1 stat point on level up. Shamir just proved me wrong.
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Cythereal posted:I didn't think no-stat levels were possible in this game, that it was hard-coded to give at least 1 stat point on level up. It's not possible for any of the students or Byleth (or Cyril?), who get at least two every level, but is possible for all the knights and faculty.
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Shamir's the only character I've ever had get no-stat level ups. And she accomplished it many times.
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if you want to see the future of fire emblem, imagine i'm not setting a very good example, forever
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https://twitter.com/FireEmblemJP/status/1222429193843048448 So, it turns out that while Cindered Shadows' save data (read: levels, classes, victories, etc.) will operate independently of the main game, completing stuff in Cindered Shadows will unlock extra things in the the main game, like interacting with the Ashen Wolves in the main monastery content. And yes, the above tweet thread does more or less confirm that the Ashen Wolves will appear in the War Phase if you manage to recruit them to your class. Although, Balthus confirming he has a big booming voice now makes me really upset he doesn't support with Raphael.
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"I will remove you" -Petra
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indigi posted:"I will remove you" -Petra "I will be giving you removal." -Petra, probably
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I wasn't going to do another of these, but a friend of mine who's working through the game asked me who the better myrmidon type is - Felix or Catherine. So here comes some math, and I'll toss Petra and Ignatz in so the Beagles and Deer don't feel left out (hey, Ignatz *does* have a strength in Swords). Felix: 45 55 30 45 55 40 30 20 30 350 Catherine: 50 50 25 40 55 30 30 20 25 325 Petra: 45 40 25 50 60 45 30 15 35 345 Ignatz: 35 35 30 50 50 55 25 35 25 340 In terms of pure growths, there's very little room between Felix and Catherine - Catherine has 5% better HP growth, Felix has 5% better STR, DEX, CHA, and 10% better LCK. Petra also proves she deserves to hang out in this crowd in terms of raw stats, having notably lower STR than Felix and Catherine but better DEX, SPD, and LCK. Ignatz... doesn't really deserve to be considered in this weight class. Felix, of course, has his well known ability Lone Wolf, boosting his damage by 5 whenever he doesn't have a battalion. A valuable crutch early in the game that falls off as better battalions come online. Less well known is Catherine's ability, Fighting Spirit, which reduces her damage by 5 whenever she doesn't have a battalion. With how early you can get Catherine unless you're a Beagle, this also has crutch value and similarly falls off - and it will fall off faster in Catherine's case due to her skills. Petra has Hunter's Boon, also situationally increasing her damage, in this case against targets under 50% HP. Not super reliable, but at least it's not dependent on a battalion like Felix and Catherine. Ignatz has Watchful Eye for +20 hit, which can be very useful at times against bullshit pegasus knights and assassins. Felix also packs the major Crest of Fraldarius for a 40% chance to increase his might by 5 when using a weapon (i.e. all the time unless you're doing a gimmick build). He also brings with him the ability to acquire the Aegis Shield from his paralogue, which besides granting Pavis and Aegis, also grants Felix personally 6 protection and 3 resilience, drastically improving Felix's durability even if the shield is heavy. But Felix generally gets plenty of strength, and this shield does much to alleviate his tendency to be frail. In Azure Moon alone, Felix also gets the Sword of Moralta, which has the standard regen effect that's amplified in his hands, further increasing his durability. Catherine instead has the major Crest of Charon for a mighty 70% chance to increase her might by 5 when using combat arts, and she of course has Thunderbrand with its brave effect and, in Catherine's hands, Fourdroyant Strike. Moralta and Thunderbrand enjoy the same base damage, but the Sword of Moralta enjoys +15% crit and +5% hit over Thunderbrand but weighs 2 more. Thunderbrand is also a brave weapon, and enables Fourdroyant Strike for Catherine as opposed to Moralta's HP regen for Felix. It's a tough call as to which is better, but I'd personally give the nod to Thunderbrand. Of course, if you're willing to give up Fourdroyant Strike and the extra HP regen, they could always swap weapons. Also potentially of interest is the Sword of Begalta, available to the Golden Deer, which has less damage and crit but better hit and weighs less (and if you have access to it, you won't have the Sword of Moralta). Petra and Ignatz do not have Crests. In terms of skills, Felix has the mandatory strength in Swords, but also Bows, Brawling, and a budding talent in Reason (maybe going for a Levin Sword build or borrowing Blutgang from Marianne?). He does, however, have a notable weakness in Authority. Good battalions are huge in this game, and will significantly outweigh Lone Wolf. Catherine similarly enjoys strengths in Swords and Brawling, and a weakness in Reason. Not having Felix's Authority weakness means she'll be getting good battalions significantly faster. Petra has strengths in Swords and Bows like Felix, but also Axes and Riding in exchange for Reason and Faith weaknesses. Ignatz has the now familiar strengths in Swords and Bows, a budding talent in Reason, and notably a strength in Authority. His only weakness (Flying) isn't one most people would care about. So who's on top of the speedy strong sword person heap in my view? I think I have to give it to Catherine in a squeaker thanks to Thunderbrand's superior performance in her hands (and for the combat arts guy, Catherine and Felix have almost identical combat arts) and lack of an Authority weakness, but Felix is all but equal with the Aegis if you can get it, offering a defensive alternative. Petra tries, but she lacks a Crest and the Crest-granted extra abilities with Relics that Felix and Catherine have. Ignatz... could do the job if you really want him to, but he doesn't belong in this crowd. Cythereal fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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The earlier you recruit Catherine, the stronger she is, because her bases are always at least the minimum Swordmaster bases, even at the lowest possible level to recruit her.
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Catherine is one of the strongest units in the game and can hard carry you in Maddening. Petra starts off trash but is worth investing in as alert stance and peg knight can make her a monster and she has one of the best personal skills in the game. Felix honestly is probably worse then both of them. He does good damage early game even on maddening thanks to his crest but his shield is poo poo since it’ll just weigh him down and won’t save him from maddening enemies. I’m curious how viable it is to dip armor knight for him for weight down then go full war master and ignore swords entirely
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I usually end up making Felix and Petra into bow knights because BK's own, they're both good at it, and there are a bunch of other characters to do melee stuff. Currently working on a run where everyone is a flying class and primarily uses bows. It's pretty sick with all the NG+ goodies on.
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Oh Felix is a great character and a good unit I just don’t think he’s as amazing as people make him out to be. His offence isn’t quite good enough to make up for his squish on Maddening and he doesn’t have Catherine’s amazing bases. He also can’t reliably hit the same speed and avoid break point Petra can that makes her near unhittable even on Maddening thanks to her speed and peg knight access
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Just me and you against the world little buddy.quote:An few comments on the [Choose Your Legends] results: It's okay though because at least they did better than: quote:The lowest-ranked playable character from Three Houses was Gilbert at rank 481. Hoping one day IS gives out in-game statistics of how many players just forget Gilbert even exists after the chapter he's introduced in. Which is probably understandable seeing as how he's only playable on only one path.
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indigi posted:*nodding head emphatically* that's right, that's right I can't believe we let racism win
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