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What is the point of talking about Hunter Biden? How is this related to Trump's defense against the Ukraine allegations?
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Jan 27, 2020 22:45
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ManBoyChef posted:he put it where it was so he could cheat on his wife there. didnt he gently caress his mistress by windows overlooking ground zero or some poo poo.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:45
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CmdrRiker posted:What is the point of talking about Hunter Biden? How is this related to Trump's defense against the Ukraine allegations? because trump team are dumb assholes.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:45
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1glitch0 posted:
Think of how many politicians kids get a leg up on their poo poo because of who mommy or daddy is. No one wants that gravy train hosed with and calling Hunter highlights that issue more than anything else. There will be some pissed politicians if a law about your children getting patronage or what constitutes patronage comes out of this.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:46
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CmdrRiker posted:What is the point of talking about Hunter Biden? How is this related to Trump's defense against the Ukraine allegations? I'm not even sure what makes crackhead Hunter Biden this criminal mastermind that is so important it's worth holding up hundreds of millions of dollars to Ukraine. Bondi just said "potential appearance of a conflict of interest". Okay? What was he even supposed to have done? They don't even have a crime!
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Jan 27, 2020 22:50
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Dapper_Swindler posted:didnt he gently caress his mistress by windows overlooking ground zero or some poo poo. I ... it wasn't ground zero at the time
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Jan 27, 2020 22:50
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She is comparing a family of 4's income to someone sitting on a loving energy company board. Holy poo poo anyone on any board any where is going to dumpster a family of 4's income. This is so loving stupid.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:51
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since Trump's defense team knew on Dec 30th that Trump did in fact extort Ukraine because they were given a copy of Bolton's manuscript can they be disbarred for lying in such a manner?
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Jan 27, 2020 22:51
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Xaiter posted:What is this drunken defense? How has no one pointed out that this is actually the opposite of a defense? If Giuliani was only acting as Trump's personal lawyer, then it reinforces the point that Trump was using his office for personal gain. It would also imply that any documents and witnesses involved with Giuliani's activities can't be covered by executive privilege.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:52
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Bondi is making a very powerful, compelling case against American oligarchy here. I'm convinced, of something, I'm not sure how it relates to impeachment, but definitely convinced that American oligarchy is terribly unjust.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:52
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ManBoyChef posted:since Trump's defense team knew on Dec 30th that Trump did in fact extort Ukraine because they were given a copy of Bolton's manuscript can they be disbarred for lying in such a manner? no one's getting disbarred for any reason related to trump unless they literally get convicted of a crime
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Jan 27, 2020 22:53
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1glitch0 posted:You explained it very well. I know the answer is incompetence, but that defense is so terrible and why wouldn't you just go the route of "Nah, he didn't do it, everyone is lying." Instead it's all these bizarre arguments that don't really defend Trump at all.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:54
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genius legal team https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1221914877914120197
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Jan 27, 2020 22:56
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eke out posted:no one's getting disbarred for any reason related to trump unless they literally get convicted of a crime how do you mean?
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Jan 27, 2020 22:56
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eke out posted:no one's getting disbarred for any reason related to trump unless they literally get convicted of a crime This has already happened to one of his personal lawyers once since he became president so hey, why not do it again?
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Jan 27, 2020 22:57
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Maybe when she gets to the end of her defense there will be something surprising to tie all of these non sequiturs into a cohesive argument. Maybe this wont be an expensive waste of everyone's time after all.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:58
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shes out here speckled
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Jan 27, 2020 22:58
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ManBoyChef posted:how do you mean? i mean no one is getting disbarred for anything they do here unless they are later convicted of a crime for it bar associations don't wade into political waters that'll make people mad at them, they just wait and disbar anyone who gets convicted, e.g. michael cohen
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Jan 27, 2020 22:59
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no one here was under the impression Bondi was a competent attorney, I hope. She's only there because she dropped the case against Trump U in exchange for a campaign donation while she was Florida AG.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:03
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https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1221816115464151041 i mean we all knew that. but it explains so much.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:06
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Wait was Eric Hershman originally on the team or are they sneaking him in as a witnesses under the guise of counsel?
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Jan 27, 2020 23:07
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eke out posted:i mean no one is getting disbarred for anything they do here unless they are later convicted of a crime for it makes sense. Doing what they have done goes against the oath they have to take to become an attorney. You would think they would go after them for that but I can definitely see that they probably want to keep the bar association non partisan.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:13
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I was so frustrated by Pam Bondi's stupid argument that I turned it off after five minutes. The democrats mentioned Biden and burisma 400 times you say???? 
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Jan 27, 2020 23:19
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I know I'm not the target audience here but holy poo poo their allegedly anti-Biden material is making Hunter look pretty reasonable, all things considered.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:20
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SubG posted:I know I'm not the target audience here but holy poo poo their allegedly anti-Biden material is making Hunter look pretty reasonable, all things considered. Bondi was dropping quotes about "potential appearance of conflict of interest" in a tone to make them sound like murder allegations haha
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Jan 27, 2020 23:22
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Toomey is signalling he is willing to do 1-1 witness vote. But who the gently caress would the R's want? Do they seriously want one of the Bidens?
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Jan 27, 2020 23:25
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All of these shameless insinuations and innuendos clearly merited an investigation. Which is why we sent in one guy, Rudy Guiliani, who we've just argued was on personal business for the Donald Trump the private citizen and not acting in an official capacity at all.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:26
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lol he's arguing that the crimes are too dumb to have been committed by Trump.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:34
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refleks posted:Toomey is signalling he is willing to do 1-1 witness vote. But who the gently caress would the R's want? Do they seriously want one of the Bidens? we have at least a couple who are signalling they want witnesses. we will probably know more during the dinner break at 6. edit. https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1221917573639557120 Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jan 27, 2020 |
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Jan 27, 2020 23:35
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Jan 27, 2020 23:44
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The Trump "legal team" knowing about the Bolton book would not be illegal, that would be covered by attorney-client privilege. As there is no legal ramification for defending a client you know is guilty, most lawyers will not defend a known guilty client and will go out of their way to not have the client tell them that they are guilty. It is an ethical thing. Privilege only can protect you so far. For example it does not protect when the attorney is involved with a crime or perpetrating a fraud. Which at the very least Cipollone and Sekulow at the very least would have been involved with all of this. I don't know all of the arcane laws of the Senate but I believe that there are provisions for not being able to knowingly lie to the body. Granted I very seriously doubt that any of these fools will have the feet held to the fire.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:45
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ManBoyChef posted:makes sense. Doing what they have done goes against the oath they have to take to become an attorney. You would think they would go after them for that but I can definitely see that they probably want to keep the bar association non partisan. Admitting a republican to the bar is like permitting an out and out atheist to be a priest. In a sane world gatekeeping would just stop it. But the GOP has power and attorneys are craven moral-less cowards who feel no duty to the public - so yea their professional associations ain’t gonna wade into it.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:45
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Dapper_Swindler posted:we have at least a couple who are signalling they want witnesses. we will probably know more during the dinner break at 6. Because you knew he was a scorpion when you let him ride on your shell, you stupid turtle.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:47
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CmdrRiker posted:What is the point of talking about Hunter Biden? How is this related to Trump's defense against the Ukraine allegations? Because he's an effective political issue for Trump.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:50
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mcmagic posted:Because he's an effective political issue for Trump. Yes after all, Donald Trump does not have any failsons, or failsons-in-law that make Hunter Biden look competent. 
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Jan 27, 2020 23:51
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Angry_Ed posted:Because you knew he was a scorpion when you let him ride on your shell, you stupid turtle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhpjG53xnSE
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Jan 27, 2020 23:52
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Dapper_Swindler posted:we have at least a couple who are signalling they want witnesses. we will probably know more during the dinner break at 6. Trump is so loving stupid he even manages to piss off the one person in the country who truly has the power to remove him from office if he decides it's what he wants to do. I wouldn't even have predicted he'd be so dumb as to gently caress over Yurtle in the middle of the trial.
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Jan 27, 2020 23:52
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Angry_Ed posted:Yes after all, Donald Trump does not have any failsons, or failsons-in-law that make Hunter Biden look competent. You have to take your greatest weakness and turn it into a strength!
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Jan 27, 2020 23:52
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Dapper_Swindler posted:we have at least a couple who are signalling they want witnesses. we will probably know more during the dinner break at 6. Good. Rage yourself into a stroke you turtle-faced rat-fucker of democracy.
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Motherfucker literally just argued that you can't impeach the President because the economy is good.
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Jan 28, 2020 00:03
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