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WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

yea ok posted:

im watching "ivan the terrible, part 1 (of 2)" russian people be hosed up LOL

i got this sergei einstein book about cinema and his big hair and face just stare at me from one of my shelves. haven’t read it lol.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

WatermelonGun posted:

i got this sergei einstein book about cinema and his big hair and face just stare at me from one of my shelves. haven’t read it lol.

Battleship Potemkin is legit still a really good movie.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Movie Twitter didn't like Marriage Story but I liked it

Give the oscar to Irishman so one of Scorsese's good movies can be honored

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

WatermelonGun posted:

i got this sergei einstein book about cinema and his big hair and face just stare at me from one of my shelves. haven’t read it lol.

lol i have soooo many cinema books and ive opened maybe one of them

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

update: i only have like 6

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Whats everyones favorite Scorsese? My ride or die is King Of Comedy.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I know it's the "easy" answer, but I can't look past Goodfellas. It is absolutely loving incredible from start to finish, just a masterpiece.

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

taxi driver for me, OP

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

Hug your loved ones, friends

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Don't make me pick between Raging Bull and Taxi Driver.

On the reals though I think maybe Taxi Driver edges it out.

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Mr. Carlisle posted:

Hug your loved ones, friends

Did anything happen to someone you love? :( I hope not friend!

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Did anything happen to someone you love? :( I hope not friend!

Not to me personally no but thank you for asking. A friend is going through tough times.

As a side note I'm still going to give you a hug, Foochs - And the rest of you, should you need it

It's already wild out there in 2020

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Jerusalem posted:

Battleship Potemkin is legit still a really good movie.

The only Eisenstein I've seen was October & it was a very impressive film visually. Storming of the Winter Palace was particularly impressive if historically inaccurate.

That said, kind of a slog in the way every silent film I've seen was. I just don't have the right mindset.

That said, I do enjoy the use of non-actors. Zinoviev was played by Zinoviev's brother. Lenin by some guy who worked in a concrete factory.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Jan 29, 2020

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

i struggle really hard to watch silents by myself. even if it's just 1 other person with me they're super easy. well, i watched joan of arc by myself and that was really easy to watch cause it really is captivating and gets you by the eyeballs quick and it's short

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

best of luck to friend of carlisle

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

yea ok posted:

i struggle really hard to watch silents by myself. even if it's just 1 other person with me they're super easy. well, i watched joan of arc by myself and that was really easy to watch cause it really is captivating and gets you by the eyeballs quick and it's short

Yeah Joan of Arc is great. I think Metropolis holds up tremendously well but it also kind of depends on what cut you get, since so many versions exist that completely change the story structure by the way scenes are slotted together.

Any Charlie Chaplin is a blast to watch, but ironically his first "talkie" (or hybrid at least) Modern Times is abso-loving-lutely incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9DiFS8NCBQ

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

yea ok posted:

best of luck to friend of carlisle

Thank you

They'll be alright - just wanted to drop a line thinking out loud really about showing people you care while you can. I'm sure it's uncool on the internet but man 2020 is having a rough start out of the gate. Here's to hoping for an upturn for everybody going through their own stuff.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

On the silent movie note you really have to respect the actors of the day and their ability to tell a story mostly through body motions or just pure facial expressions

Imagine being an actor and having to make your way through entire scenes or a feature film without using a single spoken word

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

it's not so bad cause a lot of them had vaudeville experience and the whole time the directors yellig like "LOOK AT THE THING AND DO THIS FACE!!!!" and they can just talk in their dumb rear end german voices

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

One big thing for Chaplin was that he was desperate to maintain international viability for films and was opposed to talkies (which to be fair were inevitable) because he knew the moment he spoke English he was instantly shifting from the everyman for all audiences to "the American dude who speaks English". It's part of what makes that Modern Times song so great, because he's just singing pure nonsense but there's just enough in there that you feel like - coupled with the gestures and body language - that you can understand what he's saying.

All that said, his speech at the end of The Great Dictator about evil never triumphing and how things WILL get better is superb.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

yea ok posted:

it's not so bad cause a lot of them had vaudeville experience and the whole time the directors yellig like "LOOK AT THE THING AND DO THIS FACE!!!!" and they can just talk in their dumb rear end german voices

lol

A good director is also key good point

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Jerusalem posted:

All that said, his speech at the end of The Great Dictator about evil never triumphing and how things WILL get better is superb.

That speech has a way more optimistic view of the human condition than I ever will have again.
The critical reaction to the speech at the time backs me up on this.

ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jan 29, 2020

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

ChrisBTY posted:

That speech has a way more optimistic view of the human condition than I ever will have again.
The critical reaction to the speech at the time backs me up on this.

I guess one thing that gives me hope in most cases is that people aren't all bad and thankfully have the capacity to change often times when given the chance or just with maturity

I sometimes look back at old posts I made and think dang I'm glad I changed over time and jape was right I was a clown sometimes

WSAENOTSOCK posted:

I get to take my own advice of "if you don't understand it, it's not about you, so keep your loving mouth shut."

Cross posting this from another thread but yeah this was something it took me a long time to get - just because something isn't for you doesn't mean it's straight up bad or wrong or that you should slam it. I used to be one of those people that would have a very hyperbolic reaction to stuff like pop music I didn't understand and shows that I thought were stupid etc but when I just started replying in discussions with stuff like "It's not for me but it's cool that you like it" instead of saying stuff like "that poo poo sucks" and so forth it really set in how important it is to consider everyone in the conversation online or otherwise

I know WSAENOTSOCK was discussing far deeper and more important issues with their quote and I want to make it clear I'm not comparing that to a discussion about pop music or movies or whatever because they are on vastly different levels.. just saying there is a lot of wisdom in phrases like the one they mentioned that can apply to all facets of life. Let people be who they are, love whomever/whatever they love or enjoy and just help each other through this messy world

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
On the Scorsese discussion, my favorite would probably be Casino, though I haven't watched Irishman yet

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

There are so many in his catalog that I love but Gangs Of New York will probably always be my favorite. Bill The Butcher was a fantastic character and one of the best performances I've ever seen. The Aviator is also great and rarely mentioned but he's got so many great films that I can see why those two get pushed toward the bottom of lists.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

poor hana kimura... crushing on someone who turned out to be a scared little self-image protecting fucknut who is too afraid to say he wants to keep nutfucking around

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

yea ok posted:

im watching "ivan the terrible, part 1 (of 2)" russian people be hosed up LOL

this was alright

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

NienNunb posted:

Whats everyones favorite Scorsese? My ride or die is King Of Comedy.

Bringing Out The Dead

A reminder that Nicolas Cage is an amazing actor.

Kvantum
Feb 5, 2006
Skee-entist

drrockso20 posted:

On the Scorsese discussion, my favorite would probably be Casino, though I haven't watched Irishman yet

The Irishman needs at least half an hour if not a full hour cut out. Its just too friggin' long.

Casino is my fav, though.

Captain Magic
Apr 4, 2005

Yes, we have feathers--but the muscles of men.
All the Scorsese films kind of blend together for me.

Hey if you liked 1917 then I recommend giving Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History “Blueprint for Armageddon” series; it real good

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

I can't give full marks to The Irishman because it seems like Scorsese is entirely unwilling to actually direct Pacino. I have no idea what that accent he's doing in the film is supposed to be, but Hoffa it ain't.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i don't have a fave one. i'm going to pretend like it's mean streets. Wow!

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

Definitely too long but nobody wants to tell him that

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

I liked when he was a fish with big eyebrows

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Cavauro posted:

i don't have a fave one. i'm going to pretend like it's mean streets. Wow!

Mean Streets is really, really good and it always blows me away that it was so early in his career.

Agreed with The Aviator being weirdly overlooked, it's great and is the film DiCaprio should have won an Oscar for.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

I don't like crime stuff or serious stuff in my movies so I never watch Scorsese's stuff.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Kvantum posted:

The Irishman needs at least half an hour if not a full hour cut out. Its just too friggin' long.

Casino is my fav, though.

Counterpoint: I wouldn't have minded another hour and a half added

Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD

flashy_mcflash posted:

I can't give full marks to The Irishman because it seems like Scorsese is entirely unwilling to actually direct Pacino. I have no idea what that accent he's doing in the film is supposed to be, but Hoffa it ain't.

Pacino ruled as Hoffa. He needed to be over the top imo because De Niro and Pesci's performances were so understated.

It's also probably the closest thing we'll get to a film adaptation of American Tabloid.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


The Irishman is a film I think I loved but I know I'm fine never seeing again, and the length has only part to do with that

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flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Seams posted:

Pacino ruled as Hoffa. He needed to be over the top imo because De Niro and Pesci's performances were so understated.

It's also probably the closest thing we'll get to a film adaptation of American Tabloid.

He was a cartoon, which is fine if you're doing a Nic Cage movie or whatever but for a three hour biopic directed by Scorsese it didn't fit.

Pacino did this in the Kevorkian flick too - just put on some random accent that was nothing like the guy he was supposed to be portraying.

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