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I know all cops are bastards, but I feel like his department would have stood by his side were he not black. This is one of the fastest flash to bangs of killer cops getting charged. I really feel like the officers race is a contributing factor in this. But hey, gently caress him. Seriously, gently caress him.
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Seriously thought the same thing.
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You could be correct, I have no idea - and I have no idea if that department has a reputation for racism. I'm taking everything at face value, which so far seems to be that this cop shot a handcuffed dude, and the department is pressing charges 24 hours later.
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Jan 29, 2020 04:55
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Taking anything at face value in a post factual society is... an interesting way to live.
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Shooting Blanks posted:You could be correct, I have no idea - and I have no idea if that department has a reputation for racism. I'm taking everything at face value, which so far seems to be that this cop shot a handcuffed dude, and the department is pressing charges 24 hours later. Temple Hills is in Prince George’s County, which is predominantly black. There are some super lovely parts of the county, but it’s also host to one of the largest black middle and upper middle class communities in the mid-Atlantic and generally a pretty, green place. As such I don’t think race played a role in the indictment, it seems like there was no possible way for it to be a justified shooting by any stretch of the imagination. Also why was the guy in the front seat of the vehicle?
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pantslesswithwolves posted:
PG County has a bunch of no cage/partition cruisers. Most places like that the standard policy is usually to place arrestees in the front seat for transport.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Temple Hills is in Prince George’s County, which is predominantly black. There are some super lovely parts of the county, but it’s also host to one of the largest black middle and upper middle class communities in the mid-Atlantic and generally a pretty, green place. As such I don’t think race played a role in the indictment, it seems like there was no possible way for it to be a justified shooting by any stretch of the imagination. pg county, at least the part around dc, loving sucks.
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Always classy Alabama:
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MonkeyWash posted:Always classy Alabama: Fixed the image for ants.
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Platystemon posted:Fixed the image for ants. Thanks, I always have issues with imgur!
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Okay so ignoring the threat from an assistant chief of police to the speaker of the house, look at that dainty little grip he’s got on his rifle
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And look how far back the grip pod is. He's an idiot on many levels.
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Internet Wizard posted:Okay so ignoring the threat from an assistant chief of police to the speaker of the house I'm done ignoring what violent dickheads do to intimidate Americans into abiding their agendas. gently caress this cop.
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Someone shared this in TFR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r1czLNKjpU Choice excerpts: "Why do you have handcuffs?" "Is that airsoft?" "It's not airsoft." (Wasn't lying there, it was an unloaded bb gun with an airsoft weapon light, lol) "Where are the handcuff keys? You have handcuffs, where are the keys?" "I have a body cam and am recording this." No poo poo, bud. That's how you incriminated yourself. "So once you get done [checking the legal status of his motorcycle], we are going to have a talk about this." "Oh, no Jeremy, we are already done with that." "Then why am I still in handcuffs?" Uh-oh.
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Trigger warning on this link. I don't say that lightly and if I eat a ban for it, cool. https://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/thomas-valva-profile-1.41568143 loving heartbreaking and I'm flat out drinking because I'm having trouble with this one.
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The NYPD SBA has been having a normal one on Twitter
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:The NYPD SBA has been having a normal one on Twitter If you forgot They're the union that has black friends.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:The NYPD SBA has been having a normal one on Twitter Gotta admit that I was not expecting the George Soros angle.
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Hezzy posted:oh I didn't know we had a police thread again its a doozy
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madeintaipei posted:Someone shared this in TFR: The whole Jeremy DeWitte playlist is pretty good. He owns a company that provides escort services for funerals, using some antiquated Florida law. But he purposely kits out his cars and motorcycles to look as much like actual police vehicles as possible, so he can go on a total power trip. He's an idiot cop wannabe who screams at motorists constantly and is a complete jackass, as well as an idiot who drives his bike in traffic the way we do in Grand Theft Auto. It's a wonder he hasn't gotten himself killed at some point but if he had we wouldn't have highlights like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4ya5rOeZb8
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https://twitter.com/stjbs/status/1228012486286336000?s=20 Goines is the former Houston PD officer whose fabricated evidence was responsible for the 2019 drug raid that saw two people murdered.
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Don't worry, surely this department won't tolerate these bad apples (now that it's national news)
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I am SHOCKED that a sundown town did this. Shocked.
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A rare cop I didn't think they would eat my face. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/a-former-border-agent-at-risk-of-deportation/606418/
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:A rare cop I didn't think they would eat my face. This was on This American Life this week btw
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:A rare cop I didn't think they would eat my face. But he'd use every letter of the law against you and 100% still deport you.
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Funny how the reasonable officer standard is lower than the reasonable person standard applied to most untrained persons in self defense or other tricky legal situations.
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Thanks to an old SCOTUS ruling, it's the current law of the land that cops can't be expected to understand the laws so if they gently caress it up, nbd, but non-cops are expected to have perfect understanding of all laws and if they gently caress up knowledge of the law, gently caress 'em anyway.
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mlmp08 posted:Thanks to an old SCOTUS ruling, it's the current law of the land that cops can't be expected to understand the laws so if they gently caress it up, nbd, but non-cops are expected to have perfect understanding of all laws and if they gently caress up knowledge of the law, gently caress 'em anyway. What ruling is this?
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mlmp08 posted:Thanks to an old SCOTUS ruling, it's the current law of the land that cops can't be expected to understand the laws so if they gently caress it up, nbd, but non-cops are expected to have perfect understanding of all laws and if they gently caress up knowledge of the law, gently caress 'em anyway. In CA a non peace officer like a security guard or random bystander doing a citizens arrest has to explicitly state by name the specific code that they’re arresting the person for. Lmao if that rather reasonable rule was applied to cops.
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Shooting Blanks posted:What ruling is this? The most recent case on it is Kisela v. Hughes. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/17-467_bqm1.pdf The framework goes back a couple of decades and has to deal with qualified immunity. The first case was Harlow v. Fitzgerald in the 80s and the current test was set up by Saucier v. Katz in 01. Not really what I would consider old, personally. Police are agents of the state. The state is immune to tort except in certain circumstances. This is known as sovereign immunity. From that, the state's agents are shielded to an extent with respect to their functions. This is qualified immunity. It only applies to discretionary functions. There is a two part test. First, a constitutional right must be implicated. Second, is there a clearly established right defined at the time of the officer's action. Unless there is something written, either statute, regulation, or caselaw that tells an officer they cannot do something, they will be immune to bad decisions made in the line of duty. This is a garbage standard and allows a lot of lovely things to happen. Cops universally get to violate a right until there's a lawsuit that gets appealed high enough to have precedential value because  at legislators actually restricting police conduct by statute.
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I was thinking specifically of Heien v North Carolina. Basically cop stops someone without lawful cause based on his failure to understand the traffic law. Post-stop he finds drugs. Court finds that while he never had legal cause to pull over the car in the first place, that does not mean finding drugs afterward should be thrown out, as long as police can argue that the unlawful stop was a mistake rather than malicious.
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mlmp08 posted:I was thinking specifically of Heien v North Carolina. I hadn't read that case, and wish I had previously. I got the state to stipulate to a suppression of evidence on an analogous stop. However, they also conceded because part two of my argument was even if the stop was lawful, the followon search because of the smell of marijuana was not after the passenger identified himself as a medical marijuana patient and said the smell was because of him, and they do not want that argument to be ruled on. However, that's not what the other case is based on. Heien isn't about qualified immunity. It's about a reasonable mistake of law during a traffic stop. The fifth circuit case is a qualified immunity case that flows from the cases I listed. QI isn't implicated in Heien. No officer is being sued for wrongdoing. Heien is about suppression of evidence.
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