Coronavirus 2020 - START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!!

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Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

Third World Reagan posted:

That is why you have to go find them and cough on them smart guy

this is why the sniper blowgun exists: to assassinate your targets with zero trace, but you also screwed up handling the cryonically-sealed vial they gave you, so might as well

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:11

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 12:01

Bip Roberts: Mar 29, 2005

RandomBlue posted:

About that...

People moving from Wuhan and being found sick in hot parts of the world isn't the issue. It's if the virus is a significantly less contagious in a hot climate.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:15

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

triple sulk fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jan 30, 2020

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:18

Soy Division: Aug 12, 2004

we don�t know how much of that is from people who had been to Wuhan

India is also a much poorer country with low quality infrastructure, it�s not like China where you could until the past week hop on high speed rail from Wuhan to H.K. anytime you want

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:24

RandomBlue: Dec 30, 2012; hay guys!; Biscuit Hider

Bip Roberts posted:

People moving from Wuhan and being found sick in hot parts of the world isn't the issue. It's if the virus is a significantly less contagious in a hot climate.

My point was that much of India is at a similar latitude as parts of China where the disease is spreading, including New Delhi, which has ~22M people.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:25

Bip Roberts: Mar 29, 2005

RandomBlue posted:

My point was that much of India is at a similar latitude as parts of China where the disease is spreading, including New Delhi, which has ~22M people.

But we don't have the growth rates of spreading inside those locals yet. The cases are mostly driving by population movement.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:28

Soy Division: Aug 12, 2004

RandomBlue posted:

My point was that much of India is at a similar latitude as parts of China where the disease is spreading, including New Delhi, which has ~22M people.

temps in Delhi are like 20 degrees higher than in wuhan right now

we will just have to see how much it spreads in guangzhou/hk/singapore

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:28

RandomBlue: Dec 30, 2012; hay guys!; Biscuit Hider

Here's hoping that something is keeping it from spreading in India rather than being undiagnosed at this point.

e: fixed

RandomBlue fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Jan 29, 2020

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:29

TheDon01: Mar 8, 2009

https://twitter.com/ktva/status/1222338703495966721?s=19

:hmmno:

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:30

RandomBlue: Dec 30, 2012; hay guys!; Biscuit Hider

Soy Division posted:

temps in Delhi are like 20 degrees higher than in wuhan right now

we will just have to see how much it spreads in guangzhou/hk/singapore

Guangdong (where Guangzhou is) currently has 241 cases.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:31

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
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RandomBlue posted:

Here's hoping that something is keeping it from spreading in India rather than being diagnosed at this point.

Hopefully but at this point, it's just a question of when, not if. There's too much global movement, too much perfect-storm things in favor of it. a few people catch it in the US or HK or UK, indian tourists or business people fly to new dehli, bing bong done. There's absolutely no way it's getting contained in China, and with cases already identified globally it's almost assured it's been spread too but just haven't been identified. I'm sure at least one person has taken the NYC or DC metro. We should know definitively in 2 weeks once people start getting hospitalized and not just waving off 'eh its just a cold' symptoms that are either starting or will be starting soon.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:33

Soy Division: Aug 12, 2004

RandomBlue posted:

Guangdong (where Guangzhou is) currently has 241 cases.

yes and I am willing to believe that 241 people traveled from wuhan to guangdong before poo poo was locked down

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:33

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

TheDon01 posted:

https://twitter.com/ktva/status/1222338703495966721?s=19

The evacuation flight from Wuhan to the United States has been rerouted to land at a US air force base, rather than an airport.

The plane, carrying 240 Americans, left Wuhan this morning. It was scheduled to land at Ontario international airport in southern California, 56km (35 miles) from Los Angeles.

But Curt Hagman, the chairman of the San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors, announced on Twitter it would now be diverted to March Air Force Base, roughly 35 miles east of Ontario.

:thunk:

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:37

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

Xaris posted:

Hopefully but at this point, it's just a question of when, not if. There's too much global movement, too much perfect-storm things in favor of it. a few people catch it in the US or HK or UK, indian tourists or business people fly to new dehli, bing bong done. There's absolutely no way it's getting contained in China, and with cases already identified globally it's almost assured it's been spread too but just haven't been identified. I'm sure at least one person has taken the NYC or DC metro. We should know definitively in 2 weeks once people start getting hospitalized and not just waving off 'eh its just a cold' symptoms that are either starting or will be starting soon.

i could absolutely be wrong but i'm inclined to think china's passenger air travel has also increased exponentially since the sars days

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:38

Prince Myshkin: Jun 17, 2018

SKULL.GIF posted:

You can post like a normal person instead of someone trying to missile a nuclear own onto this thread, it's OK, it's actually fun. Come join us. We all float down here,

You are decidedly not posting like "a normal person" in the slightest. The guy who lives in Wuhan probably stopped posting here because of the apocalyptic nature of what you and others are saying.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:40

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Prince Myshkin posted:

You are decidedly not posting like "a normal person" in the slightest. The guy who lives in Wuhan probably stopped posting here because of the apocalyptic nature of what you and others are saying.

ok boomer

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:42

Prince Myshkin: Jun 17, 2018

Third World Reagan posted:

ok boomer

Epic.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:43

MorrisBae: Jan 18, 2020; by Athanatos

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

The evacuation flight from Wuhan to the United States has been rerouted to land at a US air force base, rather than an airport.

The plane, carrying 240 Americans, left Wuhan this morning. It was scheduled to land at Ontario international airport in southern California, 56km (35 miles) from Los Angeles.

But Curt Hagman, the chairman of the San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors, announced on Twitter it would now be diverted to March Air Force Base, roughly 35 miles east of Ontario.

The Day Wuhan Cried

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:45

Soy Division: Aug 12, 2004

lol probably stephen miller got on the phone to someone and demanded a quarantine

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:47

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

My mask with a filter came in from Amazon but I look like a dork in it so idk if I'll wear it to work tomorrow.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:48

snoo: Jul 5, 2007

I feel like I'm drowning in mucus

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:49

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

Fuckin' yikes!

https://www.newyorker.com/news/dail..._source=twitter

quote:

WHAT IT�S LIKE TO TRY TO GET TREATMENT FOR THE CORONAVIRUS IN CHINA

By Jiayang Fan

January 28, 2020

On the morning of January 18th, a seventy-nine-year-old resident of the central Chinese city of Wuhan, whom I�ll call Li, eagerly awaited the arrival of his daughter and her family, who were travelling from Shanghai to join him for the most important holiday on the Chinese calendar: the Lunar New Year. The festivities revolve around family meals, and, that afternoon, according to Phoenix Weekly, a political and cultural weekly magazine based in Hong Kong, Li rode his bicycle to the store to buy groceries. Halfway there, he began to feel weak, and fell off his bike. He was taken to a district clinic, where, owing to a lack of medical equipment�only X-ray machines were available�it was recommended that he go to a larger hospital. Around 5 p.m., he arrived with his daughter at the Wuhan Central hospital, where he waited five hours to see a doctor, who told him that he needed a CT scan of his lungs, for which there was a four-hour wait. Li went home, and, when he returned later, he was told to wait to see someone in the pulmonology department, where he finally got a scan. A pulmonologist said that the scan was worrying and told him to go to the emergency room, but there was a six-hour wait there, so Li went home again. The next day, a report showed an infection in sixty per cent of his lungs. Doctors suspected that he had contracted the new coronavirus, known as 2019-nCoV, the first cases of which had been reportedly identified in December, but they could not perform the tests to confirm it. The hospital was not an infectious-disease hospital, and, furthermore, Li�s family was told, staff members didn�t have the authority to make diagnoses themselves; they had to report cases to superiors and seek further consultation. Nor were there any quarantine rooms available.

Thus, according to Phoenix Weekly, began an ordeal, during which Li was bounced from one medical institution to another without being given a diagnosis or a bed. One night, when his fever had climbed and he had trouble breathing, Li�s daughter called the equivalent of 911�in China, the number is 120�for an ambulance. The dispatcher told her that, without confirmation of a diagnosis from a receiving hospital, he could not help her. Finally, an ambulance was sent, but Li was turned away from a couple of hospitals, which were already full. One told him that he should go back to Wuhan Central and insist on being admitted there, or get a transfer notice from it. Finally, at the fourth hospital the family tried, Li�s daughter and her husband, despondent and frustrated, started shouting in the E.R. waiting room. �If you don�t take my father,� she said, �he will die.� The family camped out in the waiting room, along with a crowd of other people.

Li�s story is not unique. Phoenix Weekly also reported on a thirty-six-year-old Wuhan resident who said that he had been refused by six hospitals in two weeks while battling symptoms of the coronavirus. Discussions of the virus have been censored on the Internet, but in recent days many people have posted similar accounts.

Early cases of the virus were thought to have originated in a wholesale seafood market in Wuhan, a city of more than eleven million people, where live animals such as dogs, cats, rats, hedgehogs, and marmots are also sold. It is closely related to coronaviruses found in horseshoe bats, and health officials thought it may have migrated to humans from one of the species in the market. The coronavirus, which gets its name from crown-like spikes on its surface, is a type of common virus that causes pneumonia. Those who contract this strain report fever, coughing, and difficulty breathing. Its incubation period is thought to be between one and fourteen days, and it can be passed by a sneeze or a cough before symptoms appear. As of Tuesday, it had claimed more than a hundred lives in China, and more than forty-five hundred cases had been confirmed across the country. The virus has also found its way to Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macao, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia, Cambodia, South Korea, Thailand, Japan, Nepal, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, and the United States, where there are five documented cases. So far, there have been no deaths outside of China.

The Wuhan coronavirus belongs to the same family as severe acute respiratory syndrome, or sars, which broke out in the southern Chinese province of Guangdong, in November, 2002, and spread, through infected travellers, to twenty-six countries, killing almost eight hundred people around the world. It was finally contained in the summer of 2003, by isolating suspected carriers around the world and breaking the path of person-to-person transmission. sars created a global panic and caused an estimated forty billion dollars in losses to the global economy, owing to sharp drops in travel and consumer spending. China concealed the epidemic for several months. (Scientists in North America were only able to sequence the genome that caused the virus that April, following intense pressure from the international community for China to share information about the virus.) Its severity was a source of immense embarrassment for Beijing; at a moment when it was attempting to prove its economic prowess to the world, its mismanagement of a public-health emergency called into question the health of its political leadership.

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Last week, when President Xi Jinping urged an �all-out effort� to contain the �grave situation� of the coronavirus, and to disseminate information about it in a timely fashion, he was almost certainly thinking about the comparisons that would be made between this epidemic and sars. In many respects, Beijing has learned from that experience. The World Health Organization has credited Chinese officials with identifying and sharing the genome sequencing of the virus just days after the illness was first reported. The government leaped into action with a series of bold and sometimes unnerving experimental measures. Travel in and out of Wuhan and nearby cities was banned. The largest lockdown in modern public-health history has been put into effect, which, essentially, has isolated fifteen cities in central China, with a combined population of more than fifty-seven million people. All tour groups and the sale of flight and hotel packages for Chinese citizens headed overseas have been suspended. The government plans to erect within weeks two emergency hospital facilities to accommodate thousands of patients. Meanwhile, Beijing has sent four hundred and fifty military medical staff to Wuhan to assist exhausted doctors and nurses in the effort.

An ability to marshal resources and initiate massive undertakings has often been viewed as one of the few advantages of an authoritarian regime. But it is part and parcel of a government that concentrates power so formidably at the top that regional officials tend to become more political lackeys than leaders attuned to the changing needs of their constituents. Since Xi abolished term limits on the Presidency, and began waging an aggressive war on dissent, he has accelerated the top-down approach to governance, maintaining that a diversity of opinion creates chaos, and that only his firm, steady hand will guide the country through peace and prosperity.

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But this imperious style of rule deters lower-level bureaucrats from playing decisive roles that can make a meaningful difference in a fast-moving crisis. On January 9th, the World Health Organization issued a report on the virus. But, early that month, rather than raise public awareness about the virus, the Wuhan authorities detained eight people whom they alleged had spread rumors about the virus. For days afterward, local officials insisted there was a low probability of human-to-human transmission, a claim that proved to be false. Dali Yang, a China expert at the University of Chicago, wrote that �the failure to act promptly after the coronavirus was identified on January 9th helped make the number of infected swell.� Any government faced with a serious epidemic might seek to control the flow of information for the sake of averting panic. But, in a repressive regime, inaction can become the local default position. As Jude Blanchette, the Freeman Chair in China Studies at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, in Washington, D.C., notes, �Central-local relations in the Xi era have seen a severe diminishment of local-level autonomy, which has led to municipal and village officials waiting for clear signals from above before they take action.�

From a bureaucratic perspective, such reluctance makes a certain kind of sense. In this situation, to diagnose a case of 2019-nCoV would mean alerting one�s superiors, arranging a medical quarantine in hospitals that are already overwhelmed, and being held accountable for a patient with a deadly, unfamiliar virus. It is far simpler to give a more general diagnosis, such as �viral pneumonia,� which is, in fact, the illness listed on the charts of many patients since the epidemic began. Under normal circumstances, the centralized system perpetuates a cycle of inefficiency and frustration. In an emergent global-health crisis, however, it could cost lives.

Li�s current status is not known. His daughter and her family members had colds, according to the Phoenix Weekly; she didn�t know whether they had caught any infections at the hospital. Meanwhile, the situation has continued to worsen. On Monday, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention advised American citizens to avoid nonessential travel to China. Chinese financial markets are closed, but the stock market saw its largest decline since last year.

Public-health crises are the unbidden stress tests of governance. On Monday, when the mayor of Wuhan, Zhou Xianwang, and the secretary of the Wuhan Communist Party, Ma Guoqiang, offered to resign amid �public indignation� over their response to the outbreak, Mayor Zhou sounded almost relieved. �Comrade Ma Guoqiang and I are willing to accept responsibility. If in the end you say someone has to be held accountable, you say the masses have opinions, then we�re willing to appease the world by resigning,� he said, in an interview with state television. So far, no one has leaped at the opportunity to take over their jobs.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:49

Soy Division: Aug 12, 2004

don�t wear a loving mask to work you dweebs

if you�re in the US it is way too early to worry about that poo poo unless you work in an airport or something

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:50

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
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Soy Division posted:

don’t wear a loving mask to work you dweebs

if you’re in the US it is way too early to worry about that poo poo unless you work in an airport or something

yeah this for real. its too early to be nerding out wearing hazmat gear while on the bus and at the office. if on the rare chance you do get it this early, that's actually the best thing possible. i know i would feel better just getting it over with the next couple weeks than in march when millions other people are sick and a ten thousand needing ICU care all at the same time.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:51

sincx: Jul 13, 2012; furiously masturbating to anime titties

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

The evacuation flight from Wuhan to the United States has been rerouted to land at a US air force base, rather than an airport.

The plane, carrying 240 Americans, left Wuhan this morning. It was scheduled to land at Ontario international airport in southern California, 56km (35 miles) from Los Angeles.

But Curt Hagman, the chairman of the San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors, announced on Twitter it would now be diverted to March Air Force Base, roughly 35 miles east of Ontario.

Someone on the plane must be coughing up a storm for them to make this decision while the flight's still in the air.

You can track the flight here by the way:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CKS371

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:52

Soy Division: Aug 12, 2004

sincx posted:

Someone on the plane must be coughing up a storm for them to make this decision while the flight's still in the air.

You can track the flight here by the way:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CKS371

must be an old rear end plane if they need a pit stop in anchorage

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:56

RandomBlue: Dec 30, 2012; hay guys!; Biscuit Hider

Soy Division posted:

must be an old rear end plane if they need a pit stop in anchorage

When they're sending their planes full of infectious people, they're not sending their best.

:chaostrump:

e: But also probably literally.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 06:58

Lote: Aug 5, 2001; Place your bets

There�s a confirmed case in Las Vegas now. Chinese gambler from Wuhan. :lol:

the US is hosed.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:02

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
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Lote posted:

There�s a confirmed case in Las Vegas now. Chinese gambler from Wuhan. the US is hosed.

i wonder for how many cases that are getting diagnosed, how many are just asymptomatic or cold-like and just going about business unaware. i have to imagine it takes pretty serious/critical symptoms for foreign travelers to seek out US (or any foreign country) healthcare to even get diagnosed

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:06

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

The first case of coronavirus in the United Arab Emirates � and thus the Middle East region � has been confirmed by state media, according to Reuters.

The state-run news agency WAM announced the case earlier today, citing the UAE health ministry.

According to the report, the person had been in Wuhan, but did not provide any further information.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:08

cash crab: Apr 5, 2015; all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology

Lote posted:

There�s a confirmed case in Las Vegas now. Chinese gambler from Wuhan. the US is hosed.

GODDAMNIT

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:11

Crusader: Apr 11, 2002

https://twitter.com/vgk_prc73/status/1222389576129400832

...surprise?

edit: https://twitter.com/peteravalencia/status/1222396182640545792

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:12

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

rip everyone in vegas

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:14

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

Prince Myshkin posted:

You are decidedly not posting like "a normal person" in the slightest. The guy who lives in Wuhan probably stopped posting here because of the apocalyptic nature of what you and others are saying.

actually he stopped posting because he died

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:14

Stairmaster: Jun 8, 2012

Before I die I just want you all to know anime is good

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:24

cash crab: Apr 5, 2015; all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology

you�re a bastard

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:24

Doorknob Slobber: Sep 10, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

the whole re-routing the evacuees plane to a military base thing is some ominous movie poo poo

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:26

Bip Roberts: Mar 29, 2005

3d bugs cant infect 2d waifus

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:28

Ora Tzo: Feb 26, 2016; HEEEERES TONYYYY

Doorknob Slobber posted:

the whole re-routing the evacuees plane to a military base thing is some ominous movie poo poo

Well its not a prison island.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australians-to-be-evacuated-from-wuhan-sent-to-christmas-island-20200129-p53vpw.html

quote:

Qantas is preparing to fly into Wuhan to evacuate hundreds of Australians trapped in the epicentre of the deadly coronavirus, as the Morrison government turns Christmas Island into a quarantine station.

Cabinet's national security committee signed off on an unprecedented evacuation plan on Wednesday morning to transfer Australian citizens from China's Hubei province to the immigration detention centre in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:48

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 12:01

Centrist Committee: Aug 6, 2019

Xaris posted:

yeah this for real. its too early to be nerding out wearing hazmat gear while on the bus and at the office. if on the rare chance you do get it this early, that's actually the best thing possible. i know i would feel better just getting it over with the next couple weeks than in march when millions other people are sick and a ten thousand needing ICU care all at the same time.

wear the mask, cowards

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:56

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