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Luckyellow posted:Wait, is it actually totally possible for a virus to specifically favor a race over other? I have no idea, that's a mind blowing thing if true. https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/32/1/26/642800
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A Chinese tourist in Finland has been confirmed to be infected with the coronavirus. https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finlands_first_coronavirus_case_confirmed_in_lapland/11182855
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Luckyellow posted:I didn't mean to use 'race's but that's super interesting. I always figured that a subsection of a population was susceptible to disease due to their income levels and diets following from the restriction of their income plus genetic diseases that's passed down but that they would actually have some resistance or weakness to a external virus is just something I just learned today. Just making sure it's clear that using 'race' here obfuscates the source of genetic difference, a misconception that racists love to use in their stupid rhetoric. Wasn't a dig at you specifically, I understood what you wanted to ask. And yes, resistance is usually thought to be either a fortunate random mutation (just like genetic diseases are unfortunate ones, and there's a lot more unfortunate than fortunate mutations possible so you mostly see problems, not resistances), or a mutation in response to a specific event that exerts pressure on a population, like the smallpox causing HIV immunity by accident. Lactose tolerance is a mutation of a gene that disabled the function that turns off lactase production after breastfeeding ends - for normal mammals, lactase is completely useless after breastfeeding ends. We are the only organism that drinks other species' milk in adulthood in large quantities, but that we even can do it is just complete luck. dex_sda fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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My CEO just sent out a company-wide email telling everyone to not panic about coronavirus because absolutely none of our employees or clients have traveled to China in recent weeks. My coworker who sits 4 feet away just got back from Shanghai late last week. 
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Luckyellow posted:I didn't mean to use 'race's but that's super interesting. I always figured that a subsection of a population was susceptible to disease due to their income levels and diets following from the restriction of their income plus genetic diseases that's passed down but that they would actually have some resistance or weakness to a external virus is just something I just learned today.
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Pump Jockey posted:My CEO just sent out a company-wide email telling everyone to not panic about coronavirus because absolutely none of our employees or clients have traveled to China in recent weeks. 
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Pump Jockey posted:My CEO just sent out a company-wide email telling everyone to not panic about coronavirus because absolutely none of our employees or clients have traveled to China in recent weeks. Mass reply to your coworkers using an anon email letting this be known Watch the fun
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Pump Jockey posted:My CEO just sent out a company-wide email telling everyone to not panic about coronavirus because absolutely none of our employees or clients have traveled to China in recent weeks.
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MorrisBae posted:Mass reply to your coworkers using an anon email letting this be known Some workplace anarchy, me gusta Maybe don't word it as "a guy who sits 4 feet from me" if you wanna stay anonymous, though
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A Buttery Pastry posted:A historical example of NOT having resistance would be the Americas almost getting depopulated by multiple waves of disease just wrecking populations that had never had to contend with them, though obviously there are very few populations today that remain so isolated that they've not been through a similar gauntlet. This has a lot to do with the way the viruses themselves mutated, as most resistance would have been acquired, not inherited, but yes, it's the same principle - it's the viruses being spectacularly good in certain populations
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lord funk posted:Got driven to the grocery store today by a community vehicle. We got our temperature taken before getting in, and again at the entrance of the supermarket. Everyone is wearing a mask. And then... normal shopping. People are totally calm. I'm not sure I agree with that long post about Chinese people being susceptible to mass panic. People here in Wuhan at least are pretty pragmatic, and in my neighborhood everyone is totally normal (minus everything being closed, and the 100% mask rate). Jesus that's a long time to be stuck at an airport. And word, thanks for updating us. I think part of it is all the headlines like "CHINA INCREASINGLY ISOLATED" and poo poo like that.
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And as a final shitpost, I encourage people to read about how loving utterly metal the immune system is, and just how inconceivable it is that it's so effective. It's a machine to win a genetic arms race in a week where the opponent has been preparing for generations.
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RandomBlue posted:r is r2 
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Pump Jockey posted:My CEO just sent out a company-wide email telling everyone to not panic about coronavirus because absolutely none of our employees or clients have traveled to China in recent weeks. we have a very large office in china with many chinese nationals working in this stateside office - depending on how this plays out i'm pretty resigned to catching it at some point edit: this is good tho https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1222561942897922049 Crusader fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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hosed up stuff is happening: quote:https://twitter.com/kenji_tokyo2007/status/1222531370041217024
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Didn't they try and deny it last night
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dex_sda posted:And as a final shitpost, I encourage people to read about how loving utterly metal the immune system is, and just how inconceivable it is that it's so effective. It's a machine to win a genetic arms race in a week where the opponent has been preparing for generations. it sure sucks rear end when your immune system decides it wants to cause a ruckus when there's no threat tho
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this happens because the twitter algorithm wants to keep the trending hashtag fresh (unless they maybe manually allow it) hashtags are eventually pushed off the trending list no matter how popular they are. To get around this, people sometimes spell the old tag slightly wrong
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https://twitter.com/CoronaVUpdates/status/1222124316244041728?s=20 https://twitter.com/ANCALERTS/status/1222418931085914112?s=20 First death outside of China?
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FRINGE posted:Im sure you like talking about trains and exact figures of laid train tracks, but the perspective on cultural reactions to things is worthwhile. I had no idea about the fetishization of IVs for example. The point is China is a rapidly changing place and the perspective of someone who lived there a decade ago is like talking to someone who lived in the US 30 years ago about what it's like there now. I picked trains because it's the most glaring example of that change.
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SKULL.GIF posted:hosed up stuff is happening: hosed up. also 1st guy can open his door that much he can probably pop the pins on the door hinge
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SKULL.GIF posted:Dunno how legitimate this study is -- it looks like they only tested eight people. Preprint so it's not peer reviewed. so wait this disease is racist against asian people
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/CoronaVUpdates/status/1222124316244041728?s=20 I think this one was reported early this morning. 29 year old guy with HIV.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:so wait this disease is racist against asian people More like misandrist. Corona-chan will bring us paradise by killing all men!  
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:so wait this disease is racist against asian people Wow it has a lot in common with my Uncle Jerry
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SKULL.GIF posted:hosed up stuff is happening: yeah this is really hosed up how bad does it have to be before you start doing poo poo like this or is it panic
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Doorknob Slobber posted:yeah this is really hosed up how bad does it have to be before you start doing poo poo like this or is it panic the badness comes from the panic tbh
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Bullfrog posted:the badness comes from the panic tbh Contagion was a documentary.
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Doorknob Slobber posted:yeah this is really hosed up how bad does it have to be before you start doing poo poo like this or is it panic definitely panic
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apparently all the people on that plane to California have so far passed four different screenings, two before leaving the airport and two more by the CDC in Alaska. I would expect they'll still be quarantined for two weeks since that seems to be becoming standard for at-risk people exiting China the WHO has done another press conference, says they're highly concerned about the cases of transmission outside of China and that's why they're reconvening to discuss declaring a global emergency, but also that many (most?) people who get the virus only have mild symptoms and they estimate the death rate at about 2% (compared to 10% for SARS)
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SKULL.GIF posted:Dunno how legitimate this study is -- it looks like they only tested eight people. Preprint so it's not peer reviewed. Schnorkles posted:one of the things that happens in situations like this is you get a bunch of initial assertions being flung around with limited information. This is not a bad thing! They're coming up with studies and tests and trying to get information out there as quickly as possible for the rest of the scientific community to test. I agree with you that they are only trying to show some interesting things. That said for a bit of clarity why 8 people is not completely ridiculous for this paper. They use the Mann-Whitney U test for small samples, which does pair wise comparison of probability that one is 'more' or 'less' than the other (the test requires the samples be independent and have some order, i.e you can tell when one is more than the other). The null hypothesis is that the samples have similar distributions with the alternative that they do not So the sample is actually 28 pairs of people vs 8 people. To see the statistical power of pairwise comparison see birthday paradox. They don't try to make very hard conclusions about what this means so this all seems fine. pigz fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:so wait this disease is racist against asian people maybe just that 1 guy. That study is more like a suggestion for someone to do a real study.
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