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Herstory Begins Now posted:In this case it means that literally every one will want to see what is in there After that will be a formal notice and then a written demerit and finally disadulation (or whatever the list was from that episode of the office).
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1222549532552110080 Hold your rear end boys the poo poo is about to fly! 
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1222549532552110080 Oh my god yes please
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Sometimes you get the feeling that they might just be in over their heads like some doe-eyed college kid who is trying to buy a lb of heroin from russian mobsters
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empty whippet box posted:Oh my god yes please edit: nah oxsnard fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Jan 29, 2020 18:47
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So is Parnas just gonna like hold a press conference there or what. It's not like he can just stroll into the Senate and declare himself a witness.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1222549532552110080 Parnas said "oh poo poo bolton might sink my chance at immunity, better get to senate and put everyone on blast."
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It's time for you to pay for your shameless toadeyism, Lindsey.
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Google Butt posted:Yeah seems like an own goal trying so hard to silence Bolton I've avoided actually believing Bolton would sink [e]Trump[/e - typed 'sanders' for some stupid brainfart reason) for the longest time. It just seems entirely too predictable, every time we think someone close to Trump (or The Party) is going to sink him, they don't. I mean, I've known about Bolton since W-times, and I get that he's not one of the sycophants, but there's gotta be at least one non-sycophant GOP senator (many of them have been 'round since before W too) and we haven't really seen any of them break ranks. And remember the subpoenas? Bolton had no obligation to obey Trump, when he told him not to testify in front of the House. And there was even a court ruling that Bolton could have pointed to, when ignoring Trump and showing up at the House - but Bolton didn't go with it. Bolton said he'd be happy to testify if subpoenaed by the house, he was invited by the house (who avoided subpoenaing him), he didn't show... Maybe I just coudn't bring myself to hope. Even the other day, when the leak happened, in this thread there was discussion of whether or not Bolton would deliberately cross Trump. The argument was that the book leak was timed too perfect, and the contents too damning, to imagine (at /this/ point) that Bolton wouldn't try to sink Trump. The arguments were solid and convincing, it looked then like Bolton would cross him. Still, I couldn't believe Bolton would 'aim at the king', would actually make a concerted (rather than resigned) effort to sink him. In truth, the one thing that would convince me is Trump going on a tirade about how awful Bolton is. And here it is. Maybe Trump caught wind of Bolton's willingness to make a resigned effort, and Trump's blowing it up in his head. That fits everything. But that's the most 'nothing matters' interpretation I can come to - and Trump's attacks on Bolton aren't going to soften Bolton's willingness to cross Trump. Uglycat fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Why is this just coming out now?
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mcmagic posted:Why is this just coming out now? he literally says the reason in his press release
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Uglycat posted:I've avoided actually believing Bolton would sink sanders for the longest time. It just seems entirely too predictable, every time we think someone close to Trump (or The Party) is going to sink him, they don't. I mean, I've known about Bolton since W-times, and I get that he's not one of the sycophants, but there's gotta be at least one non-sycophant GOP senator (many of them have been 'round since before W too) and we haven't really seen any of them break ranks. And remember the subpoenas? Bolton had no obligation to obey Trump, when he told him not to testify in front of the House. And there was even a court ruling that Bolton could have pointed to, when ignoring Trump and showing up at the House - but Bolton didn't go with it. Bolton said he'd be happy to testify if subpoenaed by the house, he was invited by the house (who avoided subpoenaing him), he didn't show... Do you think Trump's team leaked the manuscript in a misguided attempt to get out in front of it?
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oxsnard posted:he literally says the reason in his press release It's a poo poo reason and Elliot Engel is horrible.
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ManBoyChef posted:Do you think Trump's team leaked the manuscript in a misguided attempt to get out in front of it? That is my guess. I think it was the same kind of thinking like putting the call record out. They figured they could spin the obviously damning news and muddy up Bolton. It goes to show that they people in the White House aren't smart and don't know what they are doing.
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Oh please I won't ask for anything else if Parnas nukes Graham, I'll call this whole thing a win, oh please 
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mcmagic posted:It's a poo poo reason and Elliot Engel is horrible. yes saving a useful bit of information until it can be deployed to pressure republicans to allow testimony is proof that Engel is horrible you've figured it all out once again
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Hair Furor is getting the Senate circus he so desperately craved. Hope every Republican in office loving chokes on it.
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We've reached a point where it is indisputable, within the political reality (and many in the GOP are operating outside of reality), that the very best move Trump could make for his party, for his nation, and for the senator's he's asking to acquit him - would be for him to resign. This whole thing ends if he simply resigns, and the whole thing dragging on does not bode well for the GOP at large or the Senators in particular. When and if the Senator's grok this, they might (privately) try to push for him to consider that option. His (strictly selfish) reaction to having that option suggested will alienate GOP senators and may prompt some to throw him under the bus - but that still seems unlikely. It's definitely time for a popular movement demanding resignation. If that movement contained a significant number of GOP voices, it might even change the outcome. Such events /could/ be engineered.
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oxsnard posted:hey i saw in another thread you don't have plat. Email me at fourteenwaffles@gmail.com and I'll buy it for you You are too kind! Sent! Also we made 175 of our first run of Bernie buttons last night!
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Uglycat posted:We've reached a point where it is indisputable, within the political reality (and many in the GOP are operating outside of reality), that the very best move Trump could make for his party, for his nation, and for the senator's he's asking to acquit him - would be for him to resign. Any GOP senator who attempts to force Trump to resign will be risking his senate career, I suspect. Trump will obviously bloviate about the betrayal on twitter, and his complaining will almost guarantee a primary challenger from the right.
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twice burned ice posted:Any GOP senator who attempts to force Trump to resign will be risking his senate career, I suspect. Its quickly getting the point where not forcing trump to resign will be as big a risk. Bolton and parnas under oath implicating senior Republican senators and the president is a nightmare scenario for them.
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twice burned ice posted:Any GOP senator who attempts to force Trump to resign will be risking his senate career, I suspect. Trump will obviously bloviate about the betrayal on twitter, and his complaining will almost guarantee a primary challenger from the right. The present circumstance - which is /entirely/ Trump's fault, and would quickly resolve with his resignation - is 'risking' every GOP senator's career. And Trump is toothless, completely incapable of any sort of reprisal. Certainly incapable of a reprisal that's worse than the position he's put those GOP senators at present.
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https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1222580554136260608 lool this is transparently bullshit i look forward to the FOIA and investigations where we learn how they strongarmed these people into lying in a desperate attempt to stop the book
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1222549532552110080 
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1222580554136260608 We know Trump is trying to hide evidence inside classification systems, so this is pretty much on point. But he still doesn't realize classifying something does not prevent it from being released to Congress or Senate committees.
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CommieGIR posted:We know Trump is trying to hide evidence inside classification systems, so this is pretty much on point. But that isn't the point he is trying to stop it from getting to the general public or at least delay. Again this is all in the standard Trump playbook.
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CommieGIR posted:We know Trump is trying to hide evidence inside classification systems, so this is pretty much on point. so basicaly he burried every illegal action in black marker. loving lol.
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red19fire posted:I’m paraphrasing another poster but this is exactly why he went bankrupt 4-6 times in the 90s. The real estate development industry in nyc is a small pool of people who all work together to share the risk and rewards of building skyscrapers and other multi million dollar projects. Trump got in through his father’s connections, then proceeded to backstab and screw over everyone he could in order to ‘win’ real estate. This worked for a few years, but eventually no one wanted to work with him because he couldn’t think more than one selfish move ahead. He really is demonstrative proof that the philosophical cancers that are Objectivism, "greed is good," and exclusive self-interest are idiotic and self-defeating. There's a reason humans are social animals and it's not because The Man is holding ubermenschen back
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Djarum posted:But that isn't the point he is trying to stop it from getting to the general public or at least delay. Again this is all in the standard Trump playbook. From that point: Yes, he can delay the book. But it will change little: Large chunks of the info are out there, the Senate is in disarray over it, and they likely will ask for the info. Trump's just delaying, like you said.
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Man this is going to be awkward as gently caress. They get to speak, but they can only address the Chief Justice and I guess they get to say who collaborated on the question?
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lol this is so dumb, they're trying to argue that if there is literally any, quote, 'scintilla of non-personal interest' then it isn't illegal
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Two observations as things kick off in the Senate again today: 1. It strikes me as fairly mental not just that all these sessions have to be preceded by prayer, but that the chaplain explicitly states that God appointed these Senators and they must answer to Him. Rather than, you know, the electorate. 2. Philbin is a real fuckman.
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Jan 29, 2020 19:22
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Missing the second half of the sentence "as long as you're a Republican."
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These arguments about intent are just barking mad. By this standard Omar from The Wire couldn't possibly commit murder because there's some possibility that he was acting in the public interest.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:lol this is so dumb, they're trying to argue that if there is literally any, quote, 'scintilla of non-personal interest' then it isn't illegal If you have an explicit personal motive but later manufacture a shaky public motive it's cool, bro.
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