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I admit rhat season 2 of Disco is better then the first. That being said all the twists and the ending is some real bad mary sue anime plot bullshit. That cool alien they tease though the whole season is actually Michael's mom! Actually actually it's Micheal herself because she is the chosen anime protagonist. Edit: page snipe with lovely Disco bitching
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HD DAD posted:I’d argue season 1 goes uphill for a bit after this, then takes a dive again for the finale. But yes, season 2 is very noticeably better. I strenuously disagree that spending a third of the season loving around in the mirror-verse is "uphill".
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Jan 29, 2020 22:20
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Rewatched the Disco/Enterprise/S31 battle again, and it has to be the least satisfying thing to watch. Like there is nothing to actually focus on because its a mess of a million swarming drones, 0.001 second snap-cuts, and motion blur. gently caress YOU JJ and your ham-fisted Michael Bay-style star trek battle poo poo that everyone now has to copy . . . for reasons.
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Jan 29, 2020 22:41
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There is one decent ship battle in all of Star Trek and it's in Wrath of Khan.
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Blistex posted:Rewatched the Disco/Enterprise/S31 battle again, and it has to be the least satisfying thing to watch. Like there is nothing to actually focus on because its a mess of a million swarming drones, 0.001 second snap-cuts, and motion blur. In JJ Abrams defense, he seemed to do it a lot better than the people ripping him off (ROS notwithstanding, and I haven't seen the other poo poo in years). The people aping his style in discovery (from what I've seen) do a terrible job, and seem to play it up and shove it in to every scene instead of using his style sparingly for key moments.
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Jan 29, 2020 22:49
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Rent-A-Cop posted:There is one decent ship battle in all of Star Trek and it's in Wrath of Khan. wrath of khans battle is just re-done Balance of Terror
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Jan 29, 2020 22:52
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Rent-A-Cop posted:There is one decent ship battle in all of Star Trek and it's in Wrath of Khan. Defiant versus the Mirror Klingon Star Destroyer rules
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Jan 29, 2020 22:56
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Rutibex posted:wrath of khans battle is just re-done Balance of Terror Trek fights in TOS/TNG are boring because SFX costs money. DS9 mostly continues that tend with the occasional pew pew Defiant shoots a thing scene, and Disco just goes full nonsense. I don't actually remember any from ENT so they probably sucked. Absolutely none of them make any goddamn sense within the universe.
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Jan 29, 2020 22:57
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Rent-A-Cop posted:There is one decent ship battle in all of Star Trek and it's in Wrath of Khan. I'd say The Doomsday Machine was pretty decent. (And yes, it counts as a ship battle, even if one of the ships is a gigantic concrete robot windsock.)
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Jan 29, 2020 23:05
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No love for Star Trek VI's final battle where the Enterprise and Excelsior spend a solid twenty minutes getting their collective poo poo pushed in while Christopher Plummer rattles off Shakespeare quotes before being Deus Ex Machina'ed to Sto'Vo'Kor?Rent-A-Cop posted:Trek fights in TOS/TNG are boring because SFX costs money. DS9 mostly continues that tend with the occasional pew pew Defiant shoots a thing scene, and Disco just goes full nonsense. DS9 got quite a bit of ship carnage in later seasons. I always assumed it was because CGI was making such things relatively cheap to produce. It was always weird to me in those huge DS9 fleet battles how shields were seemingly no longer a thing. Shots from both sides would blow holes through their targets even if it was a first hit. Fabulousity fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Jan 29, 2020 23:18
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it must suck to realize you're on a ship that doesn't have a show about it and you exist only to blow up as a warning to others
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Jan 29, 2020 23:29
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Fabulousity posted:No love for Star Trek VI's final battle where the Enterprise and Excelsior spend a solid twenty minutes getting their collective poo poo pushed in while Christopher Plummer rattles off Shakespeare quotes before being Deus Ex Machina'ed to Sto'Vo'Kor? Shields on redshirt ships of all races are powered by the inverse of the COOL factor of the situation they’re in. As COOL goes up, shield effectiveness goes down.
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Jan 29, 2020 23:40
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Rent-A-Cop posted:The addition of Ricardo Montalban is what elevates it above anything else. ENT was a better show than people give it credit for. It absolutely suffered from "THIS AINT YER DADDY'S TREK," but was overall solid. The battles felt more urgent because of how lovely the NX-01 was. No shields, pea shooters for phasers, and a rubberband as an engine.
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Jan 29, 2020 23:44
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EvilTaytoMan posted:Maybe the Vulcans came up with the map, which is why Earth is so awkwardly positioned. That seems likely. When the Vulcans showed up Earth was in shambles after the wars and the scientific community probably wasn't concerned with developing a standardized galactic coordinate mapping system when we couldn't even leave our own solar system. And the vulcans might not have developed that mapping system either, they could have picked it up from the first warp-capable species they met. PenisMonkey posted:But they do it when he’s not even around. Probably just a TV thing to avoid confusing the audience. She could look like anything, but the audience will have trouble connecting with the character if one week she's a female Odo and the next week she's a loving seagull or something. I, for one, don't think Starfleet should be recruiting 4 year olds.
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Jan 29, 2020 23:45
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Fabulousity posted:No love for Star Trek VI's final battle where the Enterprise and Excelsior spend a solid twenty minutes getting their collective poo poo pushed in while Christopher Plummer rattles off Shakespeare quotes before being Deus Ex Machina'ed to Sto'Vo'Kor? Watching that pissant little ship kick the crap out of the two big dogs of the Federation while Plummer chews scenery and swivels in his chair is a thing of beauty. I do have to give the first fight (interrupted as it is by the bluff/prefix code, making it more than pew pew) from TWoK the nod though.
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Jan 30, 2020 00:30
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my favourite battle is that one where red squad gets hosed up big time
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GolfHole posted:my favourite battle is that one where red squad gets hosed up big time very rare Bad Nog Episode but at least they all ate poo poo and died at the end
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Jan 30, 2020 00:54
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Facebook Aunt posted:I, for one, don't think Starfleet should be recruiting 4 year olds. So you're saying no Jem'Hadar in Starfleet, huh? Seems kind of bigoted to me.
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EimiYoshikawa posted:So you're saying no Jem'Hadar in Starfleet, huh? Seems kind of bigoted to me. That's an interesting point. During the war the Dominion started producing new Jem'Hadar locally. After winning the war, would the Federation shutting down the cloning facilities be be genocide?
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Jan 30, 2020 01:17
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There's can be Jem'Hadar in Starfleet, but only if they're addicted to small talk.
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Facebook Aunt posted:That's an interesting point. During the war the Dominion started producing new Jem'Hadar locally. After winning the war, would the Federation shutting down the cloning facilities be be genocide? i have no opinion on that but i love love loved that episode where the new'hadar and the old school'hadar had tensions. i love how they treated the jem'hadar in general, they almost immediately started complicating them and treating them like actual characters
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Jan 30, 2020 01:25
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CarpenterWalrus posted:ENT was a better show than people give it credit for. It absolutely suffered from "THIS AINT YER DADDY'S TREK," but was overall solid. The battles felt more urgent because of how lovely the NX-01 was. No shields, pea shooters for phasers, and a rubberband as an engine. I enjoyed it but it was very much american space cowboys. Honestly I can never get enough phlox
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Finally was in a good mood and watched first episode of Picard. I liked it. It is not grimdark. I think it conveyed the idea that the Federation and Starfleet are just exhausted and reeling from everything and just a dose of optimism and some (non-military) victories would turn it around. I liked many of the nods to TNG they went with but they didn't feel too forced to me. The off-screen redemption of Commander Maddox who once went to court because Data was just a machine was also very optimistic and I found it kind of touching. I am hopeful for the show. 
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Humble Bundle currently has a bundle with A shitload of Star Trek comics.  This includes the TNG Mirror Universe comics "Through the Mirror", "Mirror Broken", and a ST:VOY Mirror Comic: "Mirrors and Smoke". Captain Janeway is a Pirate Queen of the Delta Quadrant. AntherUslessPoster posted:Mudd ep is very good, Lorca is very good, finale is cool, season 2 is better. No he isn't. He's a fine character riiiiight up until a nasty bit of exposition in episode 11 (I think it's 11, maybe 12?) where Empress Georgiou states that Lorca was a "surrogate father to Michael, groomed her [implying for greatness, but still], and when she came of age they became 'something more'". Dude's a bigger grooming pedophile than Neelix. Xenocides posted:Finally was in a good mood and watched first episode of Picard. I liked it. It is not grimdark. I think it conveyed the idea that the Federation and Starfleet are just exhausted and reeling from everything and just a dose of optimism and some (non-military) victories would turn it around. Maddox never needed redeeming; They actually end that episode on fairly good terms and became friends. Data's Day is even part of regular correspondence between Data and Maddox. Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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Jan 30, 2020 02:46
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i liked the fake voyager mirrior universe where the doctor is a genocidal android
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Maddox never needed redeeming; They actually end that episode on fairly good terms and became friends. Data's Day is even part of regular correspondence between Data and Maddox. Kind of. Data forgave because he is good. I think the redemption I see is more the deep respect and tribute he pays to Data almost as recompense for what he tried to do to Data even if what he was trying to do seemed to him at the time to be innocent. I found it sweet anyways.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:No he isn't. He's a fine character riiiiight up until a nasty bit of exposition in episode 11 (I think it's 11, maybe 12?) where Empress Georgiou states that Lorca was a "surrogate father to Michael, groomed her [implying for greatness, but still], and when she came of age they became 'something more'". Dude's a bigger grooming pedophile than Neelix. Dang pedophiles, always waiting for children to become adults before making their move.
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Powered Descent posted:Dang pedophiles, always waiting for children to become adults before making their move. Do you not understand the concept of "grooming"?
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Do you not understand the concept of "grooming"? Do you not understand "when she came of age"?
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Powered Descent posted:Do you not understand "when she came of age"? Yeah, no, that doesn't make it better.
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Jan 30, 2020 04:09
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trek thread living down to everyone's expectations 
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Haha whoaa
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Jan 30, 2020 04:24
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ah yes, the woody allen defense.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Yeah, no, that doesn't make it better. It's still creepy as gently caress but it's in Woody Allen territory instead of Aatrek territory. (You REALLY see no difference between the two? Yikes.) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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i mean if only there was a name for priming underage kids in order to turn the relationship sexual as soon as they do come of age, and if only that specific word had been used, i feel like it would clear up this whole misunderstanding
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Jan 30, 2020 04:28
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Keep digging, you'll get out of that hole eventually!
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Jan 30, 2020 04:29
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Pull up Trek thread, pull up!!
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Powered Descent posted:It's still creepy as gently caress but it's in Woody Allen territory instead of Aatrek territory. (You REALLY see no difference between the two? Yikes.) Yikes indeed; Dig up, stupid!
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the time has come for the rest of us to begin pissing in the hole.
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Powered Descent posted:It's still creepy as gently caress but it's in Woody Allen territory instead of Aatrek territory. (You REALLY see no difference between the two? Yikes.) I'm not interested in making a power ranking of sex crimes but yes grooming someone as a child when you're an adult is an incredibly hosed up and disgusting thing to do and is not something to take lightly
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