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Adhemar posted:Please meet your lyft driver efc525da-883c-4cbc-945a-2e14132a1e42 on the corner of Unique names! finnaly my brother is called Ramon and my father is called Ramon imagine all the confusions that name collisions generate It should be illegal to pick a name for a baby that is already in use by other person
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Real talk: replace social security numbers with uuids. 
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Jan 31, 2020 11:55
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ratbert90 posted:Real talk: replace social security numbers with uuids. I have heard multiple times about "identity thief" in USA - Is not a problem here in europe have Care somebody elaborate how can even be a problem? maybe would be a bit off-topic
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Jan 31, 2020 11:58
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real talk, standardised address system. We had two different postcode lookup services we needed to use (one for residential and one for commercial properties) and writing a module to try and normalise them nearly bought me to tears
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Jan 31, 2020 12:05
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Tei posted:What software developers need is a cool perk I name a person “street” and the street they live on “person on street”
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Jan 31, 2020 12:27
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leper khan posted:I name a person “street” and the street they live on “person on street” Odd, I named one of the kids “DROP TABLE” and a street “SELECT *”. All the cars crashed and the whole city is legally dead.
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Jan 31, 2020 12:39
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ratbert90 posted:Odd, I named one of the kids “DROP TABLE” and a street “SELECT *”. All the cars crashed and the whole city is legally dead. Are you sure? I still see a person on street.
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Jan 31, 2020 12:44
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It's one of the lizard people. They are stored in different table
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Jan 31, 2020 12:52
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ratbert90 posted:Real talk: replace social security numbers with uuids. You should have a private one that maps to a public one, so you can revoke the public one if someone starts messing with you. Or any number of public ones, which map to your private one. Tei posted:I have heard multiple times about "identity thief" in USA - Is not a problem here in europe have It has been a problem in Norway, less so now. You could for instance order a phone with a plan just by giving the SSN in stores that might be sloppy with ID checking. Then get the person's phone number ported over to that SIM card, then you could use that phone number as verification for various things, which might get you a bank login token, which in turn gives you access to everything.
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Jan 31, 2020 14:56
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Adhemar posted:Please meet your lyft driver efc525da-883c-4cbc-945a-2e14132a1e42 on the corner of Go a block down str, turn left on str2, keep going past asdf and tmp_a until you reach the bridge by the corner of tmp_b and str_escaped. Then you get on str_escaped_final until you see the sign on todo.
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Jan 31, 2020 15:53
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If the old joke that "there are only two hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation and naming things" is true, asking to name more things isn't so much a perk as a punishment. Let's think practically here: developers should have their own private WLAN band. Join the union and be handed the code used to set any router to the secret engineer only Hz range, free from interference from the government or any plebeian neighbors. It only needs a medium scale conspiracy, we have the power to make it real.
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Jan 31, 2020 16:13
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To join the WLAN band all you need to do is solve the CAPTCHA in the form of a whiteboard algorithm question.
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Jan 31, 2020 16:28
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NtotheTC posted:real talk, standardised address system. We had two different postcode lookup services we needed to use (one for residential and one for commercial properties) and writing a module to try and normalise them nearly bought me to tears This one has been "solved": https://what3words.com/ Edit: I found my three-word address and it's ambiguous because I'm on the second floor, lol. CPColin fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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Jan 31, 2020 16:34
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I named my street the empty string as a joke and now the postal service sends all the mail with unreadable addresses here, it's blowing in to my garden and making a mess
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Jan 31, 2020 16:36
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CPColin posted:This one has been "solved": https://what3words.com/ a good way to burn investor money
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Jan 31, 2020 16:40
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Tei posted:What software developers need is a cool perk this is the only way that software will ever handle names and addresses correctly
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rt4 posted:a good way to burn investor money that's one of the easy problems of computer science
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Jan 31, 2020 17:22
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I named my street Church Lane and the next street Church Lanе and all these loving incompetent postal workers are constantly complaining that they can't tell the difference as if that's my loving problem!!!
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Jan 31, 2020 17:47
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Tei posted:I have heard multiple times about "identity thief" in USA - Is not a problem here in europe have The basic idea is that the USA doesn't have an official, universal, federal identification. The Social Security Number (SSN) was originally just the identifier for one's Social Security account (the government backed "retirement" account). But then it was repurposed as an individual's taxpayer identification. And from there it became the de facto Federal identification number, used for things like military ID. But because it wasn't designed as a universal federal identifier, it has some problems. First, the SSN card itself has no identifying information, just the name and number, so anyone could take an SSN card and say "yep, this is me", and people accepting the card would be none-the-wiser, unless they checked for supporting ID, which could sometimes be fraudulently obtained using the SSN. Second, the SSN was, originally, just the ID number for your Social Security Account, not a particularly interesting piece of info, so it wasn't treated as a big secret. It was printed on all sorts of stuff, stored in plain text in ancient mainframe databases, and re-used in all sorts of other places (like employee numbers and bank customer ids; many states even used it as your driver's license number). And it wasn't particularly random, so if you knew some information about a person, like the place and date of birth, you could guess the first 5 digits pretty reliably, meaning if you had the last four digits you had the whole number. So, a number that initially had a single purpose became used as a universal identifier, and also organizations treated it as if it were a secret that only an individual would know, when no one ever put much effort into keeping it secret. This, as you may have guessed, was a recipe for disaster.
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Jan 31, 2020 18:25
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CPColin posted:This one has been "solved": https://what3words.com/ If only there were some sort of accurate method of addressing points on a spheroid. Shame that doesn't exist. Nope. Better get some programmers to "fix" this dire problem.
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SAVE-LISP-AND-DIE posted:If only there were some sort of accurate method of addressing points on a spheroid. Shame that doesn't exist. Nope. Better get some programmers to "fix" this dire problem. "What's your address?" "-21.692941728543° N -43.472103813716° W" "Alright see you there!"
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Jan 31, 2020 18:54
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Jethro posted:And it wasn't particularly random, so if you knew some information about a person, like the place and date of birth, you could guess the first 5 digits pretty reliably, meaning if you had the last four digits you had the whole number. And of course the places where anonimization was sort of done printing last four digits was often the choice. Heck, at least one institution of higher learning used to have last four digits of SSN in e-mail addresses, IIRC.
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Jan 31, 2020 19:01
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Tei posted:my brother is called Ramon and my father is called Ramon My username is because I'm a "the Sixth" irl, which frequently devolves into systems thinking we're the same person. The GA state driver's license form only went up to IV so I had to go in person. When my father turned 65 I got a shitload of medicare spam. On those financial disambiguation things I have to pretend I don't know who his wife is. On a domestic flight in India, we were issued identical boarding passes and had to explain to the gate agent we were two separate people "like George/George W" Anyway computers are awful
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SAVE-LISP-AND-DIE posted:If only there were some sort of accurate method of addressing points on a spheroid. Shame that doesn't exist. Nope. Better get some programmers to "fix" this dire problem. 3 words is easier to memorize
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Jan 31, 2020 19:23
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yes, three random words is better than relevant contextual information about a location.
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The Fool posted:yes, three random words is better than relevant contextual information about a location. No it's not. (arguably at least) But I don't think he was comparing three words to a regular address, he was comparing three words to lat/longitude as was obviously being alluded to by this: SAVE-LISP-AND-DIE posted:If only there were some sort of accurate method of addressing points on a spheroid. Shame that doesn't exist. Nope. Better get some programmers to "fix" this dire problem. Speaking of alternatives to lat/long and regular stupid addresses, Google Maps uses plus codes. For example, the plus code for the St. Louis Arch is JRF8+V3 St. Louis, Missouri Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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Tei posted:3 words is easier to memorize But there's no correlation or locality. wacky wombat footer is next to purple monkey dishwasher, unlike those stodgy systems where 1293 Oak Lane is in somewhat close proximity to 1295 Oak Lane. And sure you can memorize your 3 words, but to answer a question like "Oh, is that close to 19th/Lincoln" would require thousands to capture a modest city. The words don't mean anything without access to their proprietary system. Lat/Long might suck but multiple places will translate that to a street address.
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JawnV6 posted:Lat/Long might suck but multiple places will translate that to a street address. I mean, you can also translate three words to an address, no?
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Jan 31, 2020 19:33
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Thermopyle posted:I mean, you can also translate three words to an address, no? CPColin posted:This one has been "solved": https://what3words.com/
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Oh, I found the actual site for plus codes.quote:Nearby places have similar codes, and the code structure allows grouping areas together. The code gives the equivalent of the street name and number. Additional information like floor, suite, etc. can be provided as per the local convention.
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JawnV6 posted:I'm under the impression we're specifically talking about this 3-word-to-point-on-globe solution: Well, I didn't mean you could or couldn't right now, I just meant there's no theoretical reason a three-words-esque system can't also have the property of latitude/longitude...aka converting from code to regular street address.
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JawnV6 posted:But there's no correlation or locality. wacky wombat footer is next to purple monkey dishwasher, unlike those stodgy systems where 1293 Oak Lane is in somewhat close proximity to 1295 Oak Lane. That's true in the US, but not necessarily for addresses everywhere. Have you seen how Japan does it?
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Thermopyle posted:Well, I didn't mean you could or couldn't right now, I just meant there's no theoretical reason a three-words-esque system can't also have the property of latitude/longitude...aka converting from code to regular street address. More to the point, the current implementation requires folks route through their proprietary service and the business wouldn't survive if others could duplicate their lookup. They're incentivized to avoid anything that would make it human-usable without their direct involvement. Kilson posted:That's true in the US, but not necessarily for addresses everywhere. Have you seen how Japan does it?
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Thermopyle posted:No it's not. (arguably at least) I was being snarky. Realistically a three word type system would be fine if: 1. there was real wide spread (international) adoption and 2. similar words actually got grouped together so you could easily tell a region once you got used to it at that linked site, adjacent squares have totally unrelated word sets
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Xerophyte posted:Let's think practically here: developers should have their own private WLAN band. ill play bass
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https://twitter.com/oegerikus/status/1222965666078023680 Interesting replies.
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Tei posted:3 words is easier to memorize You misspelled monetize (the real goal of what3words).
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The bigger problem is that I shouldn’t have to provide my physical address, which is private and can change, to so many companies. What we need is a virtualized address system where I’m assigned a constant and opaque address that maps to my current physical address, and only entities I’ve given permission (like delivery companies) can do the lookup. Yes, I realize this is a pipe dream.
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Adhemar posted:The bigger problem is that I shouldn’t have to provide my physical address, which is private and can change, to so many companies. Actually it's a PO box
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I'm learning scheme for some reason and wrote a small thing to iterate through a file line by line and it hangs in one implementation (chicken scheme) but not in another (guile). Computers are cool
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