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Inacio posted:Starbase seems to be the best bet for that Agreed with the poster you quoted, I don't get the fun in spending ages memorizing sliders and adjusting dials to create an insanely complicated spaceship. Even with Starbase I saw some of the dev videos and they're going to have coding blocks and poo poo, like what? Just let me stick blocks together and go pew pew. The problem with that is once you get to that point, where do you set the limit? Most people don't (because people playing these games don't want one) and you end up with Space Engineers, a game so labyrinthine in its presentation and mechanics that I can't be assed to spend more than ten minutes learning how to play - five of which is spent just grinding resources out of the ground (or asteroid). I like the idea of a bespoke spaceship game like SC or DU or Starbase, where I get a selection of pre-made ships or maybe pre-made components, but I'm not crafting the actual doors out of solid granite. Just give me an engine for $, let me strap it to my spaceship and then go off without the grindy resource game or the incessant button touching.
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DapperDon posted:There is in fact much to be gained from it. It puts a factual display of the type of person that is sitting there actively lying to people and profiting from it. No amount of efforposting or blog stating all of the technical bullshit is going to do a single thing to put a pause in their step. You should know, you and Derek have been doing it for years to no avail. But the moment Forbes shows up with the receipts and suddenly "POOF" Chris AND Sandy are gone. Now ask yourself why Forbes was successful and what exactly your approach does other than provide for good reading? I'm not knocking you G-Man but to say it's out of bounds and nobody should ever do it is just plain false. Sandi had already dropped her camera appearances months before the Forbes story hit. She showed up as a walkon once in April with “Inside Star Citizen”, but otherwise was pretty much gone starting in January 2019. You assume that the airing of Sandi’s criminal stalking was the big game changer, the monkey wrench that changed everything? The entire Forbes piece was about the dysfunction and waste at CIG, they just went the extra mile and threw in a little salacious stuff, too. I’m not sure the latter radically enhanced the impact of the former or changed the reading. It was very bad press in a business magazine for the rich and aspiring. The Escapist pieces were even more salacious, and was surely amongst the most read gaming stories of 2015. They impacted funding positively, and actually strengthened Sandi’s position at CIG. Kotaku UK’s 2016 pieces were better researched (there were 8 of us), far more comprehensive, and packed with receipts. Again, the machinery continued. The Forbes piece was mostly an updated (if less comprehensive) version of the Kotaku UK piece from 2016, only with a little salacious stuff sprinkled in, too. Now that Calder has money in CIG, I think it’s safe to say CIG probably has to start taking bad press in major publications much more seriously. Just as they probably have to take missed targets more seriously. Calder seems, to me like, like the state change we see — not a Forbes piece about a trainwreck that also happened to include a stalking story for color. Incidentally, I never said my own efforts had been impactful. Aside from sometimes pissing off Chris or Sandi, or a small number of zealots, they largely haven’t. My reply was because you asked why “exposing them as liars” was “out of bounds”, and I pointed out that it isn’t and I’ve done a little of that myself, but that you didn’t need to also dig up past life proof of their toxic marriage histories to make that case.
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I'm so sorry I posted the thing I posted in the unfunny Croberts thread, I was under the wrong impression that I was in the GBS one. I hope thinking about Chris' shrimpy youngman didn't disturb anyone too much.
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The Titanic posted:Can't wait for this guy to regret this years from now as a potential actual life companionship he could have had and traded it in for a video game dlc that never delivered to his expectations. I'm sure it was a sinking feeling.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 20:00 |
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trucutru posted:There is a billion things you can report on in your serious magazine that they didn't mention that are much more damming for the project than the strangli incident. That they choose to hit low is the dick part. Because there can be blow back for those who invested if that sort of poo poo happens again or somehow got missed in an initial background check, public condemnation to being shamed and fired from the firm you work for. It's basic risk assessment to investing millions into someone or someones company. Sports teams gently caress up all the time with their assessments of bad off field college players all the time.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 20:12 |
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Scruffpuff posted:Strangli's evil (however hilarious) is not on the table. I felt that portion of the Forbes story was relevant as an example of Chris's innate poor judgment.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 20:15 |
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TheAgent posted:"the roadmap is just a wishlist" posts in spectrum are making me lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPHHuQhP0a8 *waits for the "not my proudest fap" comment. Hahah or *sigh* …unzips
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 20:37 |
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Hav posted:Famous phrase over here is 'caveat emptor' or buyer beware, which means that if you really want to know how your money is going to be spent, you need to do your own research, because Shell's not going to be upfront about employing kinetically assisted resettlement specialists because there's no compulsion. Dunno, but I just got really hungry for a pork pie and am currently checking DoorDash. Does that make me a bad person?
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Scruffpuff posted:I see his point though. I realize that in TYOOL 2020 there are only correct and incorrect opinions, but in my old age I have the privilege of falling back to a time when people judged each case on its own merit. (This time never happened, but pretending things were better in the past is another privilege I enjoy invoking.) Personal lives and predilections generally do not have bearing on professional competence, and is more suited to tabloid fodder than professional reporting. But the Star Citizen case is a partial exception specifically because Chris is attempting to extract wealth from others, with his personal accomplishments and predilections as his bond. Had more people known what kind of person/people they were throwing money at, this entirely predictable debacle could have been avoided entirely. Again I will disagree. She boasted credentials and experience she did not have while lying to the very public she helped extract wealth from a public she did not earn. Exposing her for that is what investigative journalism is all about. The Forbes authors are not hacks in any way, shape, or form and have the chops to prove it. She should NEVER have been a forward facing part of this project at all. You cannot name one company on planet earth where the Marketing VP is also the spokesperson but yet she put herself out there to be scrutinized. In fact, to your point they WERE being judged by their merits until the crazy poo poo with her and Beer happened and then it became a cascade of her lies catching the attention of folks everywhere. So in a way, they did this to themselves. I never feel sorry for self inflicted wounds like that.
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G0RF posted:Sandi had already dropped her camera appearances months before the Forbes story hit. She showed up as a walkon once in April with “Inside Star Citizen”, but otherwise was pretty much gone starting in January 2019. Like I said before G-man. I get it and I understand where you are coming from. Always have.
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trucutru posted:There is a billion things you can report on in your serious magazine that they didn't mention that are much more damming for the project than the strangli incident. That they choose to hit low is the dick part. Because as you have sat right here with me for years and watched every single episode of everything show, every convention, every holiday stream, all of it, you have seen that you can literally technobabble folks into turning their wallets inside out. We are seeing this happen with the lawsuit with that very same sort of technobabble. It has the ability to be deflected into the abyss that is called "development" and can plausibly be denied to those not carrying PHD's in computer science. The personal accounting of their actions that have been enshrined in a court of law are irrefutable and point to their personal behavior as a person, which is/was a very integral part of the star citizen brand.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 20:59 |
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monkeytek posted:Today's new schedule is meaningless . To be frank, most SC backers at this point don't even really want an enemy force. They just want their space yachts and their hairy roberts. They don't even want a videogame, that's why they're still satisfied even with zero real progress. They're buying a dream about a lifestyle. Gameplay is irrelevant!
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 21:01 |
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Pixelate posted:Won’t somebody think of the tax credits? Dwesa posted:script is bought by Netflix or Amazon and turned into a new mockumentary series, Ricky Gervais as Robert Christ, CEO of Cloudy Empire Industries If they tag it "Based on a true story", most people probably won't believe them.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 21:17 |
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Rotten Red Rod posted:
i'm the hair disappearing when the camera goes underwater
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 21:35 |
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Colostomy Bag posted:We talking about the codec or the hosed up rental DIVX disc model? I was alluding to the latter. I think it was the same company either way, so I'm not sure it matters.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 21:35 |
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sean tracy is currently twinkled eyed talking about a game mode that's going to not get enough players to start a match sixty days after it comes out
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:02 |
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oh I see the new game mode is going to test the new grouping system lol
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:06 |
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raditts posted:You might already know this, but the DIVX he's talking about is different from the DivX you're thinking of. Oh, I see. My bad, I thought the disc thing was about the DivX certified disc players or whatever that came later.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:15 |
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Year eight: begin testing grouping v0 on our MMO.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:20 |
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roadmaps out Notable Changes for January 31st, 2020 ____ Bounty Hunter Armor
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:23 |
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Ok, which one of you guys wrote the WCIII plot summary on wikipedia?quote:The resulting explosion destroys Kilrah and wipes out nearly the entire Kilrathi armada assembled in orbit, but damages Blair's fighter as well; a surviving Kilrathi capital ship tractors him in. Morally devastated by the destruction of their home planet, the Kilrathi, commanded now by Thrakhath's retainer Melek nar Kiranka, surrender to Tolwyn. The surviving Kilrathi begin to colonize a new homeworld and now want to live in peace and harmony with humans while Blair and his romantic interest make plans to start their new lives together. That sounds just hilarious the way it is put. You just committed genocide, killing billions, women and children included? No problem, the race you nearly wiped out now likes you and you can go on screwing your new space gf in peace. The End.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:30 |
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Just saw this, not sure if already ignored. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/roadmap-roundup-january-31st-2020 By my quick count this is a delta of 3 more items down the memory hole, 1 item "complete" but not quite ready for the masses to enjoy, 1 item set up on a pedestal so they can knock if off next time, and 8 or so spell / grammar checkers run for the sake of "f" word now drink. So much for the dead cat bounce predicted by the shillizens after last week's disemboweling.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:33 |
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TheAgent posted:roadmaps out I've only been around The Project for four years since buying in, but I'm not sure I've ever heard about "planning week" before. I mean, I know it's just a fig leaf to hide all CIG's shortcomings while attempting to present themselves as a totally professional software development company with a detailed master plan and not just a bunch of CryEngine modders with a $240 million budget, but I'm asking goons with much better memories than mine - was "planning week" ever a thing before this year?
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TheAgent posted:roadmaps out lol Bounty Hunter gameplay! Well no not right now, but we've begun to think about maybe scheduling to do it in the future! That's progress right?
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Seriously these weekly road map updates are just amazing, self owning themselves for all to see. Also wasn't there supposed to be some big ship releasing soon? Was it the Kraken or something?
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posted:People don't see the importance of the hul c being complete. who cares when we get it in the verse, the fact is it is complete which means that they solved the physic grid issues. this means we should see a lot more improvements to the physics grids in game this Physics grids 100% solved guys, it's confirmed! Checkmate again goonies.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:48 |
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Jonny Shiloh posted:I've only been around The Project for four years since buying in, but I'm not sure I've ever heard about "planning week" before. I mean, I know it's just a fig leaf to hide all CIG's shortcomings while attempting to present themselves as a totally professional software development company with a detailed master plan and not just a bunch of CryEngine modders with a $240 million budget, but I'm asking goons with much better memories than mine - was "planning week" ever a thing before this year?
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:49 |
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Popete posted:Seriously these weekly road map updates are just amazing, self owning themselves for all to see. One could think that. But it seems the enthusiasm is unbroken, at least with the paid shills in gaming forums. Automated translation, but well, you get the point: quote:60 is okay now or :wahn:. Who wants another carrack? Should hurry up. Again a price increase when the Flight Ready is - should then be 575 Dollar Store or 684 Dollar incl. VAT. Fresh from Gamestar forum. This dude is also pretty happy about the "megafunding" in January. This is really the most stupid poo poo I've read this year. I really hope for him he is paid by CIG for writing this, since really believing he is making the deal of this life is pretty worrying to be honest. People this dense, being able to operate a PC without supervisor doesn't sit too well with me.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:49 |
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Popete posted:Seriously these weekly road map updates are just amazing, self owning themselves for all to see.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:52 |
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btw the way the carrack is an exploration ship why its getting released when there's zero loving exploration gameplay (and probably won't be in until 2022 at the earliest) makes no goddamn sense, but whatever
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:54 |
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Oh noe...That Guy Who Is Always Really Logical and Positive About Future Roadmaps posted:Right, so after last weeks shredding, they're taking not just one but two weeks to put the new stuff on the board...
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:55 |
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SQ42 Roadmap Update Vents and hatches are doing well in Q4 2019 Don't concern yourselves about the chapters quote:Just mentionning that the S42 Q2 2021 column is a bug and has been removed from roadmap since.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 22:59 |
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in less than 60 days (42 working days but its CIG so crunchcrunchcrunchcrunch) they need to push the following to live (according to their own roadmap so lol)
like when this hits the PTU its gonna be hilarious
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:04 |
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monkeytek posted:Dunno, but I just got really hungry for a pork pie and am currently checking DoorDash. First time i burned myself with a soldering iron, i smelt delicious. Why are you looking at me like that, i’ve never knowingly acted on it.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:13 |
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Bob, you know that bounty hunter armor stuff you've been working on...well...
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:14 |
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ggangensis posted:Ok, which one of you guys wrote the WCIII plot summary on wikipedia? Yeah, they change that entirely to ‘we were only kidding’ and your Kilrathi wingman opens fire in a plot twist. Edit: WC1 starts with your wing leader, who you’ve been fraternizing with since you got thrown off Tolwyn’s command, getting herself offed. Callsign: Angel. Not enough eyerolls for any given wing commander plotline.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:16 |
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TheAgent posted:the roadmap (in comparision to the near decade this project has existed) is a relatively new thing and was only trotted out in December 2018 Plus, even back in the ATV days, we’d see them discussing the fruits of their start of year planning sessions. We’re still waiting on the in-game girls serving champagnes that Jake Ross was talking about in 2015. But with Bartender AI 2.0 just around the corner...
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:19 |
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TheAgent posted:why its getting released when there's zero loving exploration gameplay (and probably won't be in until 2022 at the earliest) makes no goddamn sense, but whatever who cares about gameplay when the real game is showing your jpg-epeen to other collectors of concept art
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:23 |
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TheAgent posted:roadmaps out MISC Hull-C Isn't that the unfolding umbrella cargo ship? Hey ,wait a minute. Isn't carrying boxes one of the few things that actually works in their broken alpha? Why aren't we seeing this in the alpha again? Oh right. Spoilers...........
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:33 |
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TheAgent posted:"the roadmap is just a wishlist" posts in spectrum are making me lol Anybody aware of project management realizes CIG failed about 4 years ago. Everything since then is just icing on a fail cake of failure and disappointing. They're dragging the corpse through the street and people are still giving it kisses as it passes by. More power to them, but even if Star Citizen comes out tomorrow the company behind it is still a colossal failure. You can't undo that at all. CR absolving himself of all responsibility is also a feature that can't ever be forgotten.
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