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VitalSigns posted:I love how the unique donor requirement is somehow so absurdly easy to meet that it's just a useless measure of how much cash you give to Facebook, yet so onerous that it's unfair to a poor struggling work-a-day billionaire like Bloomberg. Sir, are you suggesting that a rule is being written specifically to empower the ultrawealthy? How obscene! Such a thing never has, and never will happen. Rules, laws, regulations; these are divine principles, bestowed upon us by the great enlightenment brain-gods of rationalism and their prophets the Founding Fathers. The constitution cannot fail, the tyranny of the majority is real, and checks and balances WORK.
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hobotrashcanfires posted:https://twitter.com/KateAronoff/status/1223350128083439621?s=20 Remember back during the DNC chair election when the centrist brigade where arguing until they were blue in the face that Perez was just as far to the left as Ellison? Good times.
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PepsiOverCoke posted:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/01/30/us/politics/iowa-poll-voters.html?auth=login-email&login=email#commentsContainer They generally seem like morons, OP.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Remember back during the DNC chair election when the centrist brigade where arguing until they were blue in the face that Perez was just as far to the left as Ellison? Good times. Remember when those same centrists insisted Buttigieg was more left than Ellison, not because they cared whether he was or not, but so they could convince themselves that anyone supporting Ellison was dumber than them and therefore their arguments could just be dismissed without engaging them at all.
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Pete shouldn't be on the debate stage either. He's a totally media invented phenomenon.
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Jan 31, 2020 23:08
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but muh joe rogan
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Bushido Brown posted:They generally seem like morons, OP. Big oof.
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Bernie has the anti-mattering shield.
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totally anecdotal, but all my marxist leninist friends are actually talking about voting in the primary for bernie. it's wild since they have been super harsh on electoralism in general, especially after 2016.
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oxsnard posted:but muh joe rogan We'll always have weed and chimpanzees, my friend. We just need to learn our lesson and only promote the endorsements of war criminals.
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Jan 31, 2020 23:12
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When a gay canidate is so terrible that he is losing the gay vote.
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Bill Maher is also dumber than Joe Rogan.
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kidkissinger posted:totally anecdotal, but all my marxist leninist friends are actually talking about voting in the primary for bernie. it's wild since they have been super harsh on electoralism in general, especially after 2016. Please push them to vote. Bernie is the US left's best shot in decades at, well, anything, really.
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i guarantee that buttman is super underwater with the LQT portion of that demographic
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CubanMissile posted:Did the FEC deadline already pass? Should be midnight EST
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:When a gay canidate is so terrible that he is losing the gay vote. That's part of what's been so great about this primary so far. So many of the candidates running almost entirely on idpol signifiers have crashed and burned pathetically. Harris and Booker, IIRC, only ended up with single-digit support among black voters, while women, LGBTQ+ folks, and POCs have flocked to Bernie. Shockingly, POCs, LGBTQ+ people, and women all want M4A, a Green New Deal, and student loan forgiveness more than they want a minority candidate who won't give them the things they need to survive.
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CubanMissile posted:Did the FEC deadline already pass? Not yet!
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CubanMissile posted:Did the FEC deadline already pass? I just got a text telling me that I had 7 hours to
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Majorian posted:That's part of what's been so great about this primary so far. So many of the candidates running almost entirely on idpol signifiers have crashed and burned pathetically. Harris and Booker, IIRC, only ended up with single-digit support among black voters, while women, LGBTQ+ folks, and POCs have flocked to Bernie. Shockingly, POCs, LGBTQ+ people, and women all want M4A, a Green New Deal, and student loan forgiveness more than they want a minority candidate who won't give them the things they need to survive.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:A sign of progress really. I think I would have likely been much more pro-Buttigieg a decade ago. This is why opposition to racism, LGBTphobias, sexism, etc. are essential for working-class movements because opposing those things builds unity within the class. If I'm gay and we smash the phobia, I don't feel like I need to support Mayor Pete. Plus I'm sure the campaign doing a good job of tying in LGBTQ+ issues directly to M4A, etc, didn't hurt. That's something they can continue to improve upon, of course, but my goodness, they're doing a much better job of it now than they did four years ago.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Warren really collapsed in polls didn't she? She and Bernie are basically switched compared to a few months ago
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oxsnard posted:Wonder how much did Bernie raised this month. I would assume 10-15 million My guess is $15m-$20m range.
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Project Ratfuck may already be underway. DES MOINES, Iowa — A small group of Democratic National Committee members has privately begun gauging support for a plan to potentially weaken Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign and head off a brokered convention. In conversations on the sidelines of a DNC executive committee meeting and in telephone calls and texts in recent days, about a half-dozen members have discussed the possibility of a policy reversal to ensure that so-called superdelegates can vote on the first ballot at the party’s national convention. Such a move would increase the influence of DNC members, members of Congress and other top party officials, who now must wait until the second ballot to have their say if the convention is contested. https://t.co/7Ppot08hlM?amp=1
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Warren really collapsed in polls didn't she? Candidate Plans forgot to wait until after she won the primary to tack right and abandon M4A, instead deciding to do it after a big poll bump that put her near the top. Whoops! Vox Nihili posted:Project Ratfuck may already be underway.
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Vox Nihili posted:Project Ratfuck may already be underway. Won't work because jebmap.png
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Vox Nihili posted:Project Ratfuck may already be underway. Seems to me like the DNC is asking, nay, begging, to have their offices swamped by furious Bernie supporters. 
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kidkissinger posted:totally anecdotal, but all my marxist leninist friends are actually talking about voting in the primary for bernie. it's wild since they have been super harsh on electoralism in general, especially after 2016. Are they registered as Democrats? My biggest fear for Sanders is a good number of people who would support him won’t be able to vote in the primary because they aren’t registered (or if they are registered didn’t check the Democratic Party box).
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Vox Nihili posted:Project Ratfuck may already be underway. these people are complete idiots but even they should understand that switching back to superdelegates deciding on the first ballot right when bernie is doing well in the polls is so blatant that no amount of media spin will fool anyone but they were also dumb enough to let hillary run in 2016 so who knows, maybe they'll kill their party for good
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They're so goddamn stupid they don't even realize that a rule change like that would guarantee an overwhelming Bernie victory. Bernie basically has the Keystone Kops plotting against him.
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nelson posted:Are they registered as Democrats? My biggest fear for Sanders is a good number of people who would support him won’t be able to vote in the primary because they aren’t registered (or if they are registered didn’t check the Democratic Party box). Some states let you declare or change your registration at the door.
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Vox Nihili posted:Project Ratfuck may already be underway. This would backfire so hard, I hope they do it lamo
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RottenK posted:these people are complete idiots but even they should understand that switching back to superdelegates deciding on the first ballot right when bernie is doing well in the polls is so blatant that no amount of media spin will fool anyone they dont need to fool anyone, they arent elected e: this is the same DNC that lost a presidential election to Clown Hitler, self-own is basically the game plan as far as I can tell
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PepsiOverCoke posted:Did the campaign itself attack sunrisemovement or is that just something a media outlet did? No, they didn't attack sunrise movement directly, but they sent out a campaign email saying that Bernie was using "dark money" when it was announced the sunrise and the other organizations listed there were spending money as a pac to elect Bernie. As for the "appearing on show versus endorsement:" I am pretty sure that, if people were asked a month ago if they saw some significant difference between just appearing on a problematic celebrity's show and being endorsed by said celebrity, no one would have said so. In fact, given that not too long ago people were making the argument that Bernie appearing on Fox by itself was problematic, it is clear that it wasn't seen as a big difference then. It has only become a big difference after the fact and after every candidate has done every media appearance they could land, and it is clear that it is a distinction that is only being made to be able to attack Bernie directly.
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