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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Silly Burrito posted:

Aw hell king trump

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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

KillHour posted:

Neither of those things just happened.

Yeah, if you're thinking "Surely THIS will be the death of the Republican Party!", go read that literal autopsy they did on themselves after 2012, which they fixed every problem outlined in it by going all in the behavior outlined as "problems" and riding it to the largest majorities they ever held across every sector of government.

syntaxrigger
Jul 7, 2011

Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

When is the poo poo show resuming?

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin

nine-gear crow posted:

Yeah, if you're thinking "Surely THIS will be the death of the Republican Party!", go read that literal autopsy they did on themselves after 2012, which they fixed every problem outlined in it by going all in the behavior outlined as "problems" and riding it to the largest majorities they ever held across every sector of government.

Goes back to short term victories while losing the war.

Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003

Hairy Marionette posted:

Both of those things happened.

What has happened in the last 20 years that people remember and factor into their votes? The US is stupid.

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



Election interference with Obama? These folks believe the craziest things. There is no reaching them. Saying trump is a straight forward guy.

We really need to out vote these idiots. It will be a war of attrition but we must wait them out. once they are dead the country or whats left of it is ours.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm-NW1RwPY8

theme of the day.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Kammat posted:

loving gently caress gently caress with gently caress sauce with a side of gently caress nuggets and a gently caress soda.

Hairy Marionette
Apr 22, 2005

I am not immune to propaganda

Fart Amplifier posted:

What has happened in the last 20 years that people remember and factor into their votes? The US is stupid.

Oh oh, I know the answer to this one. The Republicans went to the supreme court and stole an election because Florida's state government wasn't quite competent enough to do so quietly.

mitztronic
Jun 17, 2005

mixcloud.com/mitztronic

ManBoyChef posted:

Looks like we just crowned trump king. all hail king trump

All hail the king! Death to America!

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

Looks like Republicans decided to go for broke with this play. They'll try to blunt force every policy, stonewall any legislation and approve as many judges as they can before going down the toilet in November.

The last gently caress You from a spiteful generational gap before making GBS threads the bed for the rest of the future to clean up.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Fart Amplifier posted:

What has happened in the last 20 years that people remember and factor into their votes? The US is stupid.

this is really stupid because it requires you to literally believe elections are just chaotic and random forces of nature

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
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Kammat posted:

loving gently caress gently caress with gently caress sauce with a side of gently caress nuggets and a gently caress soda.

Sir, this is a loving McFuckles drive gently caress, that will be 8 fuckin' dollars, thanks and gently caress you

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Djarum posted:

Goes back to short term victories while losing the war.

Yeah, this. The 2012 autopsy was about how the party was selling out long-term viability in exchange for fragile short term victories. They doubled down and got a huge short term victory. Since then they've been getting their teeth kicked in in state, local, and midterm elections, with young and minority voters swinging ever harder against them.

It's possible things turn out differently, but nothing's really contradicted the 2012 predictions so far.

Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003

sexpig by night posted:

this is really stupid because it requires you to literally believe elections are just chaotic and random forces of nature

Yes it's truly more stupid to believe that the Dems are going to win the next five presidential elections than it is to believe that the US is stupid and Americans don't remember anything.

Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe
This is it, the writing is so on the wall any denial you come up with cannot drown it out now.

You as citzens finally have to do something because no one else can.

Good luck. I genuine wish you all the love and hope I can.

Retro42
Jun 27, 2011


So if I understand this right, the GOP is basically arguing amongst themselves whether to wrap this up before the Super Bowl or before the SOTU?

What the gently caress.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Fart Amplifier posted:

Yes it's truly more stupid to believe that the Dems are going to win the next five presidential elections than it is to believe that the US is stupid and Americans don't remember anything.

I mean, no that's also stupid to assume, but yes acting like every two years elections just happen and we have no control over what happens is kinda literally insane thinking

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

Djarum posted:

Goes back to short term victories while losing the war.

What "short term victories"? The Republican party has been the driving force in US politics for the past 10 years, now.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

Djarum posted:

Next headline.

Trump gives classified nuclear, military secrets to Russia.

Why do we not assume the worst and he’s given away things of significance unless the military, CIA, FBI, etc, possibly had balls to defend the country against such a thing? The United States failed when it counted most.

The country has been eroding ever since Reagan with the rise of conservatism

Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003

sexpig by night posted:

I mean, no that's also stupid to assume, but yes acting like every two years elections just happen and we have no control over what happens is kinda literally insane thinking

Ok, so when I disagreed with the stupid thing I was being insane by acting like that thing you just made up?

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008
They aren't even suicide bombing themselves for anything useful, it's to protect Trump from a stupid pointless abuse of power that isn't even going to help because Bernie is going to be the nominee, lmfao

Xaiter
Dec 16, 2007

Everything is AWESOME!

ManBoyChef posted:

Election interference with Obama? These folks believe the craziest things. There is no reaching them.

Absolutely. Even when confronted with factual data, transcripts from court cases or House orders... Nope. They're still right. In order:

That isn't true.
That's fake data.
That data is real, but taken out of context.
That's liberal propaganda, it's not as bad as it seems...
[Continue from Narcissist's Prayer, Line 2]

This is why I think our future is going to be a split nation. Eventually, sane people living in densely populated states are going to be sick of being ruled by a 10-20% of the population living in 18 sparsely populated states. This small slice of the population literally has veto power over every single piece of legislation. 10-20% of the population has global veto power, and it isn't even just "any 10-20%" of the population. It's specifically the people living in a certain set of states. Their voting power massively outstrips any other segment of the population. We can't say we're a functional democratic republic when we give that kind of out-sized voting power to a specific population based on geographic region.

At some point, densely populated states are just gonna go "gently caress it" and ask to leave. Or just leave. Or at least try to leave.

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



I guess we can no longer rely on the levers of government to be functioning. What do we do now?

Also I can never get through on the cspan phone.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Killer robot posted:

Yeah, this. The 2012 autopsy was about how the party was selling out long-term viability in exchange for fragile short term victories. They doubled down and got a huge short term victory. Since then they've been getting their teeth kicked in in state, local, and midterm elections, with young and minority voters swinging ever harder against them.

It's possible things turn out differently, but nothing's really contradicted the 2012 predictions so far.

They've cemented a bangjillion young conservative federal judges on the bench to lifetime appointments thanks to 2016. This "short term victory" is gonna last a long frickin time...

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



finally a smart caller

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

nine-gear crow posted:

They've cemented a bangjillion young conservative federal judges on the bench to lifetime appointments. This "short term victory" is gonna last a long frickin time...

yeah but a bunch of them can be chewed up or thrown out when they do awful poo poo. that stuff happens alot.

mrpurplecat
Mar 20, 2003
America's been hosed since Nixon, but the acceleration is starting to give me vertigo like looking over a cliff.

Zoph
Sep 12, 2005

This is America's Reichstag Fire. The GOP will grant themselves the tools to undermine democracy forever by acquiting. There will never be another fair federal election.

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

But everyone here knew the Republicans were going to fast track this to an acquittal right?

It sucks but it’s not surprising they voted No

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



What is amazing is these folks think that the Democrats are the dishonest people and that Trump is a great president. What the gently caress is wrong with these people? Can we trace all this back to FOX news? Is this because of Alex Jones? I just don't get how these people can be so oblivious to what is actually happening. Maybe they just don't read or talk to anyone out of their bubble.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

SgtSteel91 posted:

But everyone here knew the Republicans were going to fast track this to an acquittal right?

It sucks but it’s not surprising they voted No

true but others and myself thought witnesses would be a thing when the bolton stuff started hitting. now bolton and parnas and probably others will have their knives out.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1223383876929761280

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

Dapper_Swindler posted:

true but others and myself thought witnesses would be a thing when the bolton stuff started hitting. now bolton and parnas and probably others will have their knives out.

Knives out for the Republicans?

Bolton is still going to release that book or whatever

Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah but a bunch of them can be chewed up or thrown out when they do awful poo poo. that stuff happens alot.

Where are conservative judges getting thrown out for bad rulings?

DSPaul
Jun 29, 2006

I are an intellekshool.

Midgetskydiver posted:

We need to stop trying to figure out how their minds work. Their minds don't work. They are nihilists.

Some of them are. Others are just bigots. (“Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, but at least it’s an ethos.”)

Obama scared them shitless. Never mind that he was conciliatory to a fault; never mind that he didn’t actually change the system much, and that what change he did accomplish is rapidly being rolled back. There was a you-know-what in the White House. Someone other than a straight White Christian male was elected President. Twice. The face of America was no longer White, and that hurt them more than any number of tax hikes or electoral reforms could have. Obama may not have hurt their pocketbooks, but he hurt their pride.

And the Democratic Party let it happen. Bipartisanship was only possible as long the Democrats didn’t present any real threat to the dignity of the White Race. But Obama’s victory was proof that the Democrats were willing to accept a Black man as the face of the nation. From their perspective, the Democrats are the ones who shredded the norms, and because of that the Democratic Party must be destroyed.

Most posters on D&D are leftists, and many are at least influenced by Marxism, so it’s hard for us to comprehend that this isn’t just a sideshow. Racism is just a tool the capitalist class uses to divide the workers, right? Surely the people with actual power are driven by calculated self-interest, not just paranoid xenophobia! But I honestly think the last four years have shown that’s not really true. The GOP leadership isn’t just using Trump, nor are they cowering in fear of their own voting base. They genuinely like him. They like him because he shares their most cherished belief: That it’s better to burn America to the ground than to share it with Those People. And burning America to the ground is exactly what they’re doing.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Fart Amplifier posted:

Where are conservative judges getting thrown out for bad rulings?

more just hosed up poo poo. like the weird religious ones or the ones that do crimes.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Man, I thought McConnell had run out of ways to wipe his dick over the constitution after the Garland thing but... WOW

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

SgtSteel91 posted:

But everyone here knew the Republicans were going to fast track this to an acquittal right?

It sucks but it’s not surprising they voted No

All of this was pre-ordained the moment the Dems took the House and whiffed grabbing the Senate. We've simply caught up to that moment physically so it's as good a time as any to vent one's feelings over it.

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Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Lambert posted:

What "short term victories"? The Republican party has been the driving force in US politics for the past 10 years, now.

In the last 3 years they've lost the majority of governorships, all of Virginia, the US House of Representatives, and a Senate seat in Alabama of all places.

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