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sexpig by night posted:Nah she keeps the focus on the campaign and all rather than the useless Clinton types who cried about it, it's a perfectly fine walk back that does nothing either way. The clinton types will be angry no matter what, everyone else will see the video more than the tweets, it doesn't mean too much. That's fair. I was mostly just commenting on how apologetic it is. "You deserve better," etc.
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Gyges posted:Iowa Caucus Demographics for the last 3 cycles. Are those numbers total or just the democratic caucuses?
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King of Solomon posted:That's fair. I was mostly just commenting on how apologetic it is. "You deserve better," etc. Yes, you deserve better. Not Clinton. She never apologizes to Clinton. She still says that Clintons remarks were disappointing.
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Gripweed posted:Yes, you deserve better. Not Clinton. She never apologizes to Clinton. She still says that Clintons remarks were disappointing. Yeah it's not a bad "eh that was uncalled for" I guess. I just don't even see why it's neccesary
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Willa Rogers posted:like, even Robert McNamara thought our involvement was a mistake. These are the words of a man worried about how history will remember him.
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SimonCat posted:These are the words of a man worried about how history will remember him. Actually McNamara has been quite honest and candid about almost everything he was ever involved in, including saying that when he was in charge of the Japanese firebombing campaigns that what he did was horrible and atrocities, and that he would effectively be a war criminal if he was not on the winning side He's a terrible person but he has enough self awareness to feel guilty and even remorseful for what he's done, which makes him 90% better than almost every person in power in this country right now That's something I guess? 
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TulliusCicero posted:Yeah it's not a bad "eh that was uncalled for" I guess. I just don't even see why it's neccesary yea she shouldn't have to say anything but if she's gonna do it at least she focuses on the movement and the supporters and not 'I maybe hurt the wealthy loser who keeps attacking us's feelings'
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Feb 1, 2020 16:15
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McNamara also helped developed modern seat belt practices so it's safe to say he's both killed and saved the most people in human history. Fog of war is fantastic and you should watch it if you haven't.
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kidkissinger posted:It's pretty hosed that Clinton is making GBS threads over the likely nominee like this. Doesn't she worry it will hurt him against Trump? A person less selfish and entitled than her might worry, but not her.
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FizFashizzle posted:McNamara also helped developed modern seat belt practices so it's safe to say he's both killed and saved the most people in human history. That's the documentary I was talking about! Fantastic one
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He's also the guy who decided low IQ people were expendable. https://youtu.be/_J2VwFDV4-g He does not mention this program in Fog of War.
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TulliusCicero posted:Actually McNamara has been quite honest and candid about almost everything he was ever involved in, including saying that when he was in charge of the Japanese firebombing campaigns that what he did was horrible and atrocities, and that he would effectively be a war criminal if he was not on the winning side It's incredible how effectively Americans have been propagandized about this. There have been a few threads about the Pacific Theater in D&D over the years, and Robert McNamara is firmly to the left of most D&D posters because the consensus in those threads was always "yeah burn those kids to death, they had it coming you stupid hippies" But maybe that's changed since the Hillary toxx thread got rid of some real psychos bc this subforum used to be pro-drone-strikes too and now it isn't.
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kidkissinger posted:It's pretty hosed that Clinton is making GBS threads over the likely nominee like this. Doesn't she worry it will hurt him against Trump? If you loving hate Sanders for "destroying your legacy" and support the status quo (which Trump is far more likely to support) it makes perfect sense
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https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1223625781248692225?s=19 A correct thread
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Yeah this is a great point too https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1223627314619211776?s=20
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Vote for women poc!! Then, tell them they're misbehaving and need to get back in line when they question Mother
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Also, Cool Nerd Nathan (not Bad Nerd Nate) has an important warning thread https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1223631372868296704?s=19
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Gatts posted:Pretty much here too. I’ll pay more in taxes but I actually want a functioning country and society I live in that does better for all its people and the world. The system as it is needs to be broken and replaced. I am a teacher who has very good healthcare. Not me. Us. spunkshui fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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oxsnard posted:https://twitter.com/ComradeStars/status/1223606236039520256?s=20 No it's just what politics is. Everything is so naked and open now Buttigieg is a rat faced company man that could feed a kitten into a wood chipper without his heart rate moving if it meant he'd be president. But because he's polite, he's a good boy following the rules. These people find swears and loud voices more offensive than, say, wanting to set people on fire from a satellite. they really do think being publicly uncouth is the worst thing you can do, with some exceptions (see: Mothers criticisms of Bernie)
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Failed Imagineer posted:https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1223625781248692225?s=19 Yeah there's literally no contradiction too absurd for HillBots. For all the poo poo they sling about Bernie being a Trump-like figure, Hillary sure has her own dedicated cult of personality and there's literally no rules around what they might say or how little sense it makes. Rashida booed the COMMENTS. I watched the video. She didn't say "gently caress Hillary." She said "No, I boo" when the comments came up, that "Nobody Likes Bernie." I'm going to reject that bullshit framing every time it comes up, and good for Mehdi for rejecting it also. Really says a lot about where Bernie is right now that he's THIS firmly in the gunsights of the party elite.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Also, Cool Nerd Nathan (not Bad Nerd Nate) has an important warning thread Warren is effectively still in this to prevent a Bernie nomination.
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Joe the Strummer posted:+12?!? They had Bernie at 5% in their previous poll?!?!?!?!?!
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Joe the Strummer posted:+12?!? Every number is positive though, so who lost support for Bernie to gain 12 points? Was Kamala really popular there or something?
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Nix Panicus posted:Every number is positive though, so who lost support for Bernie to gain 12 points? Was Kamala really popular there or something? Undecided.
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Remember when people would have a meltdown in USPOL when you rightly called Clinton a worthless piece of poo poo.
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:That Tlaib thing sucks. Won't make a dent but it certainly won't help, and getting cocky while talking about shutting up haters is extremely annoying. Dude, you suck. Change your name and your avatar. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Civilized Fishbot posted:You mean Tlaib, speeches stick to your rib?
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Failed Imagineer posted:Also, Cool Nerd Nathan (not Bad Nerd Nate) has an important warning thread This is why I'm bracing for a disappointing surprise in Iowa. We needed to shut out Warren and we didn't seem to get there in time so now we just really really have to hope she underperforms polling.
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SeANMcBAY posted:Her tweet about how Tlaib's statement was actually "white male rage" was even better. love that jf changed his username
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My prediction for Iowa: 1. Buttigieg 2. Sanders Those two can go either way. 3. Biden 4. Warren Same for these two. 5. Yang 6. Steyer 7. Bloomberg These 3 will be largely unviable and limp into New Hampshire.
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JosephWongKS posted:Lmao at this handwringing
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quote:The issue of Biden’s electability was the driving force behind the decision and a key concern of the union’s membership, which was randomly surveyed by phone in an “extensive poll” conducted by a professional pollster ATU hired, Costa said. Kind of sounds like the WFP all over again. "We randomly conducted a secret poll and... hmm, the numbers? Don't worry about it." And I vaguely recall Biden holding a big union rally several months back (feels like years ago) and the only people who showed up were presidents and other top brass. The membership knows who their candidate is.
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Ideal order in Iowa is: 1. Bernie 2. Butt 3. Biden 4. Klob 5. Warren Probably won't get that, but Warren out first is good and Butt taking votes from Biden is good, since he's hosed in the south
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I would be devastated if the butt took iowa or new hampshire. Is he really doing that well? I want him to lose almost as badly as I want bernie to win. If he took Iowa he'd be the first to win it and not the nomination since 1992.
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