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Kaiju Cage Match posted:The Culling cutscene is in the game files i have to know what went on with this loving development cycle
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Trademarks apply to industries/types of products. No one is gonna confuse a videogame orc for a motorcycle. Just because a company would probably win a lawsuit doesn’t mean they’d be more willing to risk one, especially when the alternative is something as minor as changing a character’s name. Companies avoid the faintest whiff of a lawsuit like the plague, even when the opposing company gives no indication they’d actually want one. As a comparison, they’ll poo poo all over the consumer all day because of the power imbalance. Just put complete bullshit in their EULA and hope people assume it’ll hold up in court.
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Feb 1, 2020 17:43
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Grom is also the name of a Polish special forces unit so I expect winged Hussars to arive at Blizzard's and Honda's HQs sometimes soon.
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Feb 1, 2020 18:08
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I remember when Nintendo totally got sued because the newest fire emblem has a character called Mercedes
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Feb 1, 2020 18:29
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Pigbuster posted:Just because a company would probably win a lawsuit doesn’t mean they’d be more willing to risk one, especially when the alternative is something as minor as changing a character’s name. Companies avoid the faintest whiff of a lawsuit like the plague, even when the opposing company gives no indication they’d actually want one. As a comparison, they’ll poo poo all over the consumer all day because of the power imbalance. Just put complete bullshit in their EULA and hope people assume it’ll hold up in court. Kaiju Cage Match posted:Grom is also the name of a Polish special forces unit so I expect winged Hussars to arive at Blizzard's and Honda's HQs sometimes soon.
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Feb 1, 2020 18:34
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i just had a sleep-deprived epiphany grom is a popular figure that people identify with because he's supposedly a badass however, much like most self-identified badasses, he's actually just a total fuckup with no impulse control and anger issues, so the people who identify him are being more accurate than they realize Kaiju Cage Match posted:The Culling cutscene is in the game files 
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Feb 1, 2020 18:41
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:The Culling cutscene is in the game files This is starting to look like some kind of Anthem-like disaster where they made one thing in the past two years, then rushed/outsourced the rest.
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Feb 1, 2020 18:43
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lmao grom's attack animation holy poo poo
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Feb 1, 2020 18:47
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Question for people that have been playing SC2 or WCIII not reforged: When you play a matchmaking game as Random race and you get a win, does it count as a win toward just random portrait unlocks or also a win for the race you played? I could have sworn you used to get credit towards both but it's been years since I played either.
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Feb 1, 2020 19:30
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Has anyone ever in the history of Warcraft's existence tried searching for "Grom" instead of "Grom Hellscream"? Like I can't imagine going to Google like "I want to search that cool orc guy Hellscream" and just typing in his first name. Maybe just me, idk. I can't imagine many people looking him up as just "Grom" though.
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Feb 1, 2020 19:44
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Sometimes I'm like 'wow wc3 probably was more complicated to remaster than they expected!' then I remember that blizzard has a 2b/yr operating budget and during the time where they were working on literally almost nothing else and just ahahahah wtf are they actually doing with that budget
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Feb 1, 2020 20:01
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Sometimes I'm like 'wow wc3 probably was more complicated to remaster than they expected!' then I remember that blizzard has a 2b/yr operating budget and during the time where they were working on literally almost nothing else and just ahahahah wtf are they actually doing with that budget coke
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Feb 1, 2020 20:21
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Kith posted:coke especially at the top level. Lower level you can only really do what you're told within the process dictated by those above. Khorne fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Feb 1, 2020 20:35
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Zaphod42 posted:
This is several pages back now but I really want to comment on it. The original just looks better: - Cracked dirt has depth and shading that perfectly conveys what it is, despite using the same color palette as regular dirt. It's instantly readable. - Dark and light patches of grass mesh well together in all configurations, layering on top of each other. - The trees, finally, have large bases and are bunched close together to create the illusion of a forest and undergrowth. When you contrast that with the new art in Reforged (and remember, the screenshot has the same map with the same terrain tile information) the differences are huge. The new assets just don't fit - the grass patches barely flow into one another, instead getting harshly cut off and the depth is gone; the cracked dirt is now just regular dirt with a different color, and some of the tree models are too thin or small, exposing the ground beneath and ruining the illusion. It's loving amateur hour. All they had to do was plug in upgraded assets that still conformed to the originals, and they failed at that. Also: Contrast.
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Feb 1, 2020 20:44
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To be strictly accurate Chris Metzen did a good job back when, then did exactly the same job for the rest of his tenure.
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Feb 1, 2020 20:46
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jokes posted:To be strictly accurate Chris Metzen did a good job back when, then did exactly the same job for the rest of his tenure. I think it's funny that Metzen's writing used to be one of the biggest complaints about the company. The fingers of the monkey paw snapped themselves right off when it heard that wish.
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Feb 1, 2020 20:48
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Khorne posted:Yeah. But he loved that job. The problem only popped in when they started thinking their writing was good and not just indulgent campy Starship Troopers/Warhammer poo poo written for teenagers.
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Feb 1, 2020 20:52
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ErrEff posted:This is several pages back now but I really want to comment on it. The original just looks better: In the original version there was something very satisfying about about felling a big chonky tree. It was more like a board game piece which I think is appropriate. The new ones look awful and the bare patches look like a budget cut came down as the model artist was 80% done
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Feb 1, 2020 20:58
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Question for people that have been playing SC2 or WCIII not reforged: When you play a matchmaking game as Random race and you get a win, does it count as a win toward just random portrait unlocks or also a win for the race you played? For war3, it just counts towards random for both portrait and win %. The only time that you get double credit for a win is in tournament, where you get tournament credit and race credit. But I presume they’ve also killed off the tourneys as well?
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Feb 1, 2020 21:38
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There's no ladder or ranked matchmaking and definitely no tournaments still lolling at that actually
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Feb 1, 2020 22:07
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so I'm not sure I understand the new EULA, are they just going to ban you if you try to play a custom map that has "copywritten material" in it? Will those maps just get deleted immediately and no one can play them?
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Feb 1, 2020 22:37
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I thought that since I had actually pre-orderded this, I should actually try it. Go to the prologue mission, click Thrall... hang on, alt tab, something else in WoW popped up. Go back...5 seconds later, DEFEAT. Didn't even get to first marker point to say I'm not a retard and can actually move a unit. Uh....ok. Let's try again, close everything else + restart, no more alt tabbing, just focus in War3. Maybe it didn't like going to another app, it's possible!.....same thing. DEFEAT, just 30 seconds later this time. I...er...don't know what to do. I have a legit War3 + War3x code + install somewhere, should I just replay that somehow? Or do I just dickpunch myself and try/wait to get Reforged working?
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Feb 1, 2020 22:53
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Grimdude posted:Has anyone ever in the history of Warcraft's existence tried searching for "Grom" instead of "Grom Hellscream"? Why type in ten extra letters?
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Feb 1, 2020 22:56
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KajiTheMelonMan posted:I...er...don't know what to do. I have a legit War3 + War3x code + install somewhere, should I just replay that somehow? Or do I just dickpunch myself and try/wait to get Reforged working? Honestly I don't think anyone knows when or how Blizzard are going to get this mess sorted out so you might be better off just playing through your old install. Once Blizzard starts patching Reforged who even knows how much stuff they are going to fix/add per patch? At this point I'm just gonna keep checking this thread plus Reddit every day in hopes of hearing some kind of update to the situation.
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Feb 1, 2020 23:15
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Why would they care? Idiots pre-ordered this mess, they've got their money, why would they care?
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Feb 1, 2020 23:33
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I'm not sure how much more integrity Blizzard has left in dealing with this issue, but there is the possibility of legal problems arising from this mess since the Reforged website is still advertising features (New UI, new Reforged cutscenes) that did not make it into the final release. Blizzard, at the bare minimum, has to deal with the missing features they are still advertising on their website. Whether Blizzard will hunker down and defend themselves or actually patch in those missing features is anyone's guess at this point.
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Feb 1, 2020 23:49
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My best experience with it so far has been getting a refund without having to talk to anyone. It was surprisingly easy.
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Feb 1, 2020 23:53
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Can one get a refund on the original games we can't play anymore? I used to loving LOVE Frozen Throne. 
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Feb 2, 2020 00:11
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If Blizzard 100% owns all maps created by users, then users are employees or contractors of Blizzard with regard to mapmaking, and Blizzard must pay them for each map made.
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Feb 2, 2020 00:24
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KajiTheMelonMan posted:I...er...don't know what to do. I have a legit War3 + War3x code + install somewhere, should I just replay that somehow? Or do I just dickpunch myself and try/wait to get Reforged working? you should get a refund and stop preordering software
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Feb 2, 2020 01:56
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I was really looking forward to this and almost pre-ordered multiple times and for the first time ever I did not pre-order a blizz game.. Looks like it was the right call though. What the hell is Blizz doing? They have not had a major new release since Overwatch and now after all this time they can't even get a remake right?
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Feb 2, 2020 01:58
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At least battle.net chat got better: I do think "Horecreaft 3: Reforskinned" would be a good thread title though.
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Feb 2, 2020 02:07
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RisqueBarber posted:At least battle.net chat got better: The last time i reinstalled wc3 there was a guy in 4v4s whose username was some variant of DONALD_TRUMP who had a list of players and if he got teamed up with any of them, he would call them a libtard and team kill them. Anyone who said anything critical to him got added to the list. He must have played 24/7 because he showed up in like every match i tried to play.
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Feb 2, 2020 02:12
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Angry Lobster posted:I'm so glad I didn't preorder this. At this point I would never buy a Blizzard game let alone pre-order one. Or pre-order a remake of one, for that matter. There's been nothing but bad news coming out of the company for the last couple of years and I don't see that stopping now.
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I have like 20 copies of Footmen Frenzy 5.4 AR in my maps folder because the custom game lobbies are so broken I keep having to re-download a map I already have, join the lobby, then immediately get kicked. If this happens, restarting the game or your internet does nothing to help, you just have to live with it and go play a different custom game until it is fixed. Every single little thing is so hosed. Another minor complaint I have is that now when browsing for custom games/1v1s you just get the RoC main menu music. Back in the day you'd get to listen to like 50% of the WC3 soundtrack on shuffle when you were on battle.net. That's probably the most minor thing anyone who has posted in this thread has complained about, but seriously, there is nothing good about this release.
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Feb 2, 2020 04:47
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OK if you want a break from yelling about companies being bad we're still playing sweet games. other than the classic graphics desyncs i think the actual game itself (once you're inside a game and playing) works just great. and most importantly there are billions of noobs just waiting to call you slurs because to them, towers are unforgivably dishonorable here are two games that were fun stomps: this one on Timbermaw had a nonstop action final act which must have been incredibly embarrassing for them (replay) this one on Upper Kingdom had repeated sneak dives by big chim flotillas attempting to...kill mains? (replay) and here were two games that weren't exactly super close, but involved a lot more "trying": on Thunder Lake (my new favorite 3s map), Mata directs us to attempt an experimental choketower. Yes there are zeps but it should be fine. pretty much nonstop fights (replay) a totally classic Golems In The Mist. it feels like 2007. it's good for your soul. and they're zep dropping in your main (replay)
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Feb 2, 2020 07:23
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Since I don't care about online and I never played the OG wc3. Is the campaign at least working? Or is Reddit just overreacting
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CyberPingu posted:Since I don't care about online and I never played the OG wc3. Is the campaign at least working? Or is Reddit just overreacting The campaign works. Some people have been having bugs with random defeat screens upon loading into a level, but that doesn't seem to be all *that* common as far as I can tell - persistence and maybe restarting the game should overcome it if it happens to you. There are a few moments of kinda janky animation in Reforged, but all in all the campaign works just fine, and while there aren't as many sweeping changes as was promised in 2018, what they have done is nice. For the most part. I'm still annoyed by their efforts to remove the name "Grom", mostly because they did it poorly. They also removed any instances of anyone speaking the name "Furion" in the Reign of Chaos Night Elf campaign, but that effort is far less noticeable, and far less frequent, as he tends to be referred to exclusively as "Shan'do Stormrage" by anyone not named Tyrande or Illidan.
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Feb 2, 2020 08:40
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CyberPingu posted:Since I don't care about online and I never played the OG wc3. Is the campaign at least working? Or is Reddit just overreacting Campaign has worked fine for me, actually. I’m actually quite enamoured of the art upgrade. If I were trying multiplayer I’d be upset, though.
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That's fine then. Definitely a case of gently caress you got mine but I can see why people would be pissed about the online changes.
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