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I had a cyrix 686 100 when I was 12/13. It met my purposes fine - Commander Keen, Crystal Caves, Carmen Sandiego. We got cable internet when I was 15, and a new Win98 Gateway, just before they dropped the '2000' from the name. Literally the reason dad picked that one was because my mom liked cows and thought the box was cute. Blew my mind. No more download manager for all night mp3s! 333mhz! I can play videogames without stuttering! Those were halcyon days, friends.
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My dad ordered a gateway once and everyday it hadn't arrived he become really angry and start screaming "WHERE'S MY COW BOX?!"
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Feb 1, 2020 08:15
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The absolute joy of starting a song downloading in Napster, immediately starting it playing in Winamp, and watching the download complete before the song is done playing.
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Feb 1, 2020 08:15
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Nocheez posted:Most of the old stuff didn't require anything more than a big heatsink on top. AMD led the charge for ridiculous cooling, those bastards ran extremely hot around the 1ghz days. I interned at AMD around the time we broke the 1GHz mark. Pretty sure the entire product engineering team was as surprised as anyone that it happened.
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Feb 1, 2020 08:31
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Trabant posted:I interned at AMD around the time we broke the 1GHz mark. Pretty sure the entire product engineering team was as surprised as anyone that it happened. drat ur av fukkin kicks rear end
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Feb 1, 2020 08:35
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LifeSunDeath posted:Everybody remember the joys of computer building back in the day...slicing open your hands on the super sharp case edges? Ugh, oh and these bastards: I once ripped off half of my finger nail on a computer case. Don't recommend.
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Feb 1, 2020 09:04
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Nocheez posted:Most of the old stuff didn't require anything more than a big heatsink on top. AMD led the charge for ridiculous cooling, those bastards ran extremely hot around the 1ghz days. I remember how my AMD 1,3 ghz tower doubled as a space heater. poo poo would get unstable during summer months so I had to point a table fan inside the case so the thing would keep from randomly crashing from overheating. The noise of the fans was so loud I couldn't leave the thing on overnight. 
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Feb 1, 2020 09:30
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Voodoo cards made for serious heat at a time when case cooling was joke and cards didn't have fans themselves. I remember my friends getting into "experimental" cooling, aka keeping their case open and pointing a fan at it, which I thought was insane at the time (what if you get shocked or something!). 
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Feb 1, 2020 10:55
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^^^ God the dumb poo poo we did to cool our PCs. I think I tried every combo of some/most/all the case off, fans blowing every which way, etc. I remember how loving huge Gateway was for a while. Cowboxes everywhere among people I knew. Am I wrong in remembering that their ISA / PCI slots were... non-standard, or something? I remember trying to install an off the shelf modem or a sound card or something into a friend of the family's Gateway desktop, and the card just would not seat properly - if I recall, with the card seated into the port on the motherboard, the bracket didn't reach the case by a few mm or so, or I couldn't get it seated in the slot right or something. It wasn't cheap or obscure hardware I was trying to install, either, and I had lots of experience doing this with other PCs. At the time I thought "huh, Gateway must sell their own expansion hardware or something", but in retrospect that seems silly. verbal enema posted:drat ur av fukkin kicks rear end I can hear the sound playing in my head and I can't even remember the last time I played MW2/Mercs. 
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Feb 1, 2020 11:00
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LifeSunDeath posted:Voodoo cards made for serious heat at a time when case cooling was joke and cards didn't have fans themselves. I remember my friends getting into "experimental" cooling, aka keeping their case open and pointing a fan at it, which I thought was insane at the time (what if you get shocked or something!). I screwed a 120mm fan in to the heat sink on my voodoo 3. The fan was much larger than the heat sink or card. My friends laughed and said it looked rediculous. Seems quaint looking at modern cooling
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Feb 1, 2020 13:35
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My K6-2 ran so hot I had a big box fan instead of the left panel on the case. In the winter time that thing probably meant the gas heat bill was halved but let’s not talk about the electric consumption.
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Feb 1, 2020 13:52
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Wasn't it around the Voodoo5 era that GPUs started requiring supplementary power, because the bus wasn't enough?
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Feb 1, 2020 13:53
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Anyone ever get desperate enough to install one of these little noisemakers? You can still buy them brand new in tyool 2020 
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an actual frog posted:Anyone ever get desperate enough to install one of these little noisemakers? My friends and I did, but only because we were getting them for free.
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Feb 1, 2020 17:12
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I just got a CoolerMaster LAN box and it has room for like 5 fans, but I have no idea how effective any of them are because it's like trying to air condition a very large room.  But I love it so much. There's so much room for activities.
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Feb 1, 2020 17:33
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barbecue at the folks posted:The noise of the fans was so loud I couldn't leave the thing on overnight. The Gateway 486 that I had as my first computer had only one fan, and it was in the power supply (the processor was just bare on the motherboard, no heatsink or fan). That was the loudest PC I've ever owned, and I left it turned on in my little 8x10 bedroom every night. When I upgraded after a year or so, I had to start turning on the radio at night because I wasn't used to sleeping in such perfect quiet any more.
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Feb 1, 2020 17:48
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that case is awesome. I really like cube cases. Cooling chat: I know one of my friends tried this at one point funneling air from the A/C vent, not sure how well it worked  
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LifeSunDeath posted:Cooling chat: I know one of my friends tried this at one point funneling air from the A/C vent, not sure how well it worked 
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Feb 1, 2020 18:39
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In my last apartment my internet connection kept crapping out but by accident I noticed pointing a fan at the MODEM fixed it. Got a new Zyxel or whatever for 40€ and never had problems again 
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Feb 1, 2020 19:41
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an actual frog posted:Anyone ever get desperate enough to install one of these little noisemakers? I have one of these in my desktop right now. (my computer is from 2007)
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Feb 1, 2020 21:00
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I once cut a huge hole in the front of my case, chopped a funnel to fit it, then put the biggest fan I could find inside the case. I spraypainted the entire abomination shiny, mirror-like silver. At least now I just put a shitload of LEDs everywhere like a civilized person.
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Feb 1, 2020 21:27
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I once tried to dremel a window in my TRACKBALL so I could have sick LED lighting in it. I had very little knowledge about plastics and what a 15K RPM blade would do to it.
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Feb 1, 2020 21:50
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I got a spark in my eye (wearing glasses but not safety ones) and had to have it drilled out at the ER. Then I had to get it drilled again a couple days later to get the rust string. I would not recommend cutting a computer case with a Dremel to install a window.
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I once used a big rear end radial fan that i got from...somewhere and a cardboard construction to cool my pc. It was a desktop style case and i propped up the cover, put the fan in there and enclosed all of it with cardboard. No idea why i even felt the need to do that cause i cant imagine i had a reliable way to measure the temperature. Also no idea why my parents where ok with me having a finger shredder like that spliced into 240v to cool my pc... I also ran my Cyrix 6x86 P200+ without a heatsink to check if it actually got hot and promptly burned my finger because yes...it does!
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With my Athlon XP, after a few years of blue screens interrupting my gaming sessions being normal, I started to do the same thing with the side off and a box fan, and it seemed to help. I was scared to try this because of hearing how important the case was for ensuring airflow over the correct components, but I suppose blasting a lot of extra air in there makes up for it and the case was actually not good  I ran Motherboard Monitor 5 and made it beep at me when the CPU temperature exceeded 60 degrees C or something, I guess people online said that was a good threshold?  The alarm was a constant thing coming from the PC speaker once the threshold was exceeded so it was really annoying, I don't think my wife would tolerate being in the same room with it these days!Found a screenshot online, don't think I had quite this many sensors: 
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wanna talk about cooling? this is the 1999ish era KryoTech Cool K6-2 or K6-3, idk there were multiple ones it was a prebuilt system that was designed for overclocking the AMD processors in them what's the big lump thing at the bottom?  not much just pretty much a refrigerator
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Holy poo poo that rules
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People have been trying to make the oil cooled computer a viable option, but it's really not worth it Also seen people do liquid nitrogen long long ago, and they're apparently still doing it, now with 7ghz results: 
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If you're feeling adventurous you can still drop a grand to a get phase-change kit compatible with modern PC components  
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verbal enema posted:drat ur av fukkin kicks rear end Code Jockey posted:I can hear the sound playing in my head and I can't even remember the last time I played MW2/Mercs. My people 
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an actual frog posted:If you're feeling adventurous you can still drop a grand to a get phase-change kit compatible with modern PC components This better also cool my apartment. Why are these needed? Is this some MLG gotta squeeze every bit of power out of computer so i can come out of top of LoL matches? Or is it another buttcoin thing? Or just a cool engineering project?
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If you're overclocking to the 9s then your CPU is consuming a lot more electricity (which it turns into heat), and you need to get that heat out somehow. When you get to the point of doing this then it's definitely for its own sake rather than wanting to do better in videogames or anything like that.
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twistedmentat posted:This better also cool my apartment. Most poo poo nowadays is GPU more than CPU bound anyway, right? Like my VR dedicated machine is an oooold i5 that has a 1070 in it, and runs great. It absolutely chokes on 3DMark's CPU-bound tests, but it's more than capable of smooth, decent quality VR and max settings on most non-VR games. I guess if I was going to spend a lot of money on a CPU solution, I'd just buy some top end Ryzen or i9, since I can't imagine anything those couldn't handle.
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Some things don't really benefit from more than a few cores, or even just one - and I guess a 7GHz quadcore would outperform a stock speed 8-core CPU, if they're otherwise similar. I can't really think of too many such tasks outside data analysis, though.
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Cooling like that is particularly useful in these days of multicore processors. The stock cooler might be able to run one core at something approaching its potential, but when all cores are working, they’ll each be throttled way down. If you have a workload that uses all the cores, there is a lot of potential to speed it up. To do that, you need a massively more effective cooling arrangement. From that perspective, it is unfortunate that CPUs today have much better stock coolers than they did two decades ago. Sometimes they even have heat pipes. The low‐hanging fruit has already been picked. Major overlocking requires exotic measures like compressor‐driven refrigeration.
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It's not just the improved stock coolers that are an issue, it's also that CPU and GPU manufacturers have been getting much better at predicting and validating the actual performance of the chips they're making. AMD especially has been pushing their CPUs and GPUs to the limits of the silicon out of the box in their latest generation products (at least on the high-end of the market) leaving virtually no room for meaningful overclocking unless you step it up to exotic-tier cooling solutions. Nvidia and Intel aren't far behind AMD either. The days of easy 20+% overclocks are well behind us.
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Back in the Athlon 1Gzh days I had so many issues trying to cool that thing that I ended up cobbling together a custom watercooling loop by milling out a copper block for the CPU cooler and using an aquarium pump and an old car heater core. It actually worked pretty well, and made basically zero noise which was novel. In the end I got it back to air cooling when I found out that the reason it got so hot was that the goddamn CPU die was not flat, it was dome shaped and made basically no contact with the heatsink. I ended up very carefully sanding it flat.
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I guess I can say proudly I've never cut a hole in the side of my case to install a window so everyone can marvel at the motherboard and some kind of LED lighting setup. But that's mostly because I never have the side of the case on because I'm constantly loving with poo poo.
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I remember saying to Mum "Wouldn't it look cool if we had a black tower?" She agreed, and I took that as permission to paint the family computer. She caught me.
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Humphreys posted:I remember saying to Mum "Wouldn't it look cool if we had a black tower?" She agreed, and I took that as permission to paint the family computer. She caught me. Aw hell yeah dude. I tried to poorly spray paint my case and it was hella bad. poo poo was peeling off within days.
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