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adaz posted:There's whole episodes of Voyager talking about the borg threat being thousands of years old - like wasnt it from an eyewitness who was trapped in the past or something - which makes the romulans made the borg problematic. I believe that the Borg held a 'handful of systems' in the 14th century so yes, it's tricky continuity-wise. I think that came from the guy who tried to trick the Voyager crew into using his fake Federation ship, the Dauntless or something.
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Feb 2, 2020 02:32
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The borg being like 30 years old don't make any sense. How'd they get to the delta quadrant and build a massive empire? Freed drones like Picard, 7, etc should know the borgs history and would know if they were a new thing created by the romulans. Also the Borg ship released from the artic ice in Enterprise made its transmission to the delta quadrant, not Romulan space. Nitrousoxide fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Feb 2, 2020 02:36
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skasion posted:I really liked the mad max hair on the Chief Drama Officer This guy could have been the Romulan lead, not that scraggly NuFolk troubador looking motherfucker, dangit Hope that's not the last we get of Devilish Mr Angles.
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Walton Simons posted:I believe that the Borg held a 'handful of systems' in the 14th century so yes, it's tricky continuity-wise. I think that came from the guy who tried to trick the Voyager crew into using his fake Federation ship, the Dauntless or something. Had to find it - it was the episodes where they encountered the gedrin and the vaduwar and the guys in suspended animation for 900 years. So yes in the 1400s they held a "handful of systems". The romulans left vulcan around 370 AD +/- 100 years depending on how long the atomic war they had with Surak lasted. At impulse speeds it'd presumably take them at least a century or so to get to Romulus but we don't really know when exactly. Regardless, pretty hard to make the timelines work for the Borg. adaz fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Feb 2, 2020 03:08
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Trip report: I started watching The Punisher as something mindless that wouldn't require thought. But it turns out it's really good! It's kind of the antidote to all these god-awful post 9/11 shows where agents at alphabet soup agencies make Hard Choices and do crimes to protect America. Netflix's Marvel's The Punisher is about the fallout back home from those dirty wars, and the main antagonists are the same people who would be protagonists on 24 and Homeland. It's kind of incredibly ballsy and even leftist to assert that your protagonist is going to assassinate the Deputy Director of the CIA and that's a correct moral choice. It's very much not what I expected and way better than say Star Trek Discovery both in terms of being a well-made TV show and in terms of its stance on war crimes.
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Feb 2, 2020 03:15
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Romulans were constantly under surveillance so they would not want to deviate from the accepted norms, so that means all the same haircuts.
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Feb 2, 2020 03:26
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Arglebargle III posted:
I've only seen the first season, but it was very good and ended in the most perfect place possible for Frank.
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Feb 2, 2020 03:30
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Walton Simons posted:I think that came from the guy who tried to trick the Voyager crew into using his fake Federation ship, the Dauntless or something. That was Ray Wise (Arturis). He was great because he finally put Janeway in her loving place. Arturis: You negotiated an agreement with the Borg Collective! Safe passage through their space. And in return, you helped them defeat one of their enemies. Seven of Nine: Species 8472. Arturis: In your colorful language, yes. Species 8472. Did it ever occur to you that there were those of us in the Delta Quadrant who had a vested interest in that war? Victory would've meant the annihilation of the Borg, but you couldn't see beyond the bow of your own ship! Janeway: In my estimation, Species 8472 posed a greater threat than the Borg. Arturis: WHO WERE YOU TO MAKE THAT DECISION?! A stranger to this quadrant! Janeway was responsible for the assimilation of his entire species, save a few thousand. Makes you wonder how many more species she helped assimilate by defeating Species 8472. Though maybe she made up for it between the combines effects of liberating the Borg that were all a part of Unimatrix Zero, and then her future self infecting them with a virus of sorts.
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Feb 2, 2020 04:56
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Lizard Combatant posted:I don't know that you need to know the specifics of the conspiracy right off the bat. It was actually the Vulcans who created the Borg in their attempt at something something perfect logic. And that's why  could sense V'ger.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:It was actually the Vulcans who created the Borg in their attempt at something something perfect logic. And that's why STOP! e: Just for clarity, I was arguing for omitting that scene for pacing reasons. I think a mystery/conspiracy plot does eventually need to be crystal loving clear. Just in case it looks like I was endorsing incoherent Lizard Combatant fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Feb 2, 2020 05:28
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I said come in! posted:It's not much better though. It's a Borg cube, controlled by the Romulans and clearly wanted to be worked on in secret, yet they are just hiring random people around the galaxy to work and live there? This entire Borg plot thing is so confusing right now. Like, I get revealing stuff slowly, but this is just written like fan fiction and is only there because its cool. Did they say it was secret at some point? I got the impression all the scientists were invited there as some sort of science exchange, not hired.
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I didn't think it was meant to be secret - the Trill woman says she had to get some sort of clearance from the new Romulan government, so I assumed she applied to work there, not that she was recruited by them. And Dahj and her sister were in regular correspondence with each other, so there's no communications blackout or anything.
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Feb 2, 2020 05:46
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DrBouvenstein posted:That was Ray Wise (Arturis). He was great because he finally put Janeway in her loving place.
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Angry Salami posted:I didn't think it was meant to be secret - the Trill woman says she had to get some sort of clearance from the new Romulan government, so I assumed she applied to work there, not that she was recruited by them. And Dahj and her sister were in regular correspondence with each other, so there's no communications blackout or anything.
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Arglebargle III posted:Trip report: I started watching The Punisher as something mindless that wouldn't require thought. But it turns out it's really good! It's kind of the antidote to all these god-awful post 9/11 shows where agents at alphabet soup agencies make Hard Choices and do crimes to protect America. Netflix's Marvel's The Punisher is about the fallout back home from those dirty wars, and the main antagonists are the same people who would be protagonists on 24 and Homeland. It's kind of incredibly ballsy and even leftist to assert that your protagonist is going to assassinate the Deputy Director of the CIA and that's a correct moral choice. Dude. Nobody gives a gently caress about your completely unrelated show so you can once again poo poo on DISCO which you don’t even watch. And Picard, which you said you just stopped watching to go watch Punisher. What the gently caress is your life that you even care? This isn’t your thread. Get. A. Life. CaveGrinch fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Feb 2, 2020 06:26
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Track titles are up for the first five episodes of Picard’s soundtrack. Spoilers if you go searching. Nothing shocking, but...
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Feb 2, 2020 06:28
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CaveGrinch posted:Track titles are up for the first five episodes of Picard’s soundtrack. I guess this is the first confirmation that we will actually see Maddox show up? The question is whether it will be the original actor or not.
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Feb 2, 2020 06:32
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FlamingLiberal posted:
Track 26 has me more intrigued. Are we gonna see The Doctor show up? Or at least a version of him?
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nine-gear crow posted:Track 26 has me more intrigued. Are we gonna see The Doctor show up? Or at least a version of him?
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Feb 2, 2020 06:40
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Setup for the new spin-off, Star Trek: Picardo
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CaveGrinch posted:Dude. Nobody gives a gently caress about your completely unrelated show so you can once again poo poo on DISCO which you don’t even watch. lol you told someone else in the star trek thread to get a life ahahhaa
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Feb 2, 2020 07:21
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Nitrousoxide posted:Also the Borg ship released from the artic ice in Enterprise made its transmission to the delta quadrant, not Romulan space. What the gently caress. The borg were on Enterprise? How does that work?
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Feb 2, 2020 07:28
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Lizard Combatant posted:This guy could have been the Romulan lead, not that scraggly NuFolk troubador looking motherfucker, dangit For real. That guy looked cool, seemed cool, and he probably really cares for the security and the research being done there. I'll bet it was his idea to put up the "no assimilations since" sign.
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PostNouveau posted:What the gently caress. The borg were on Enterprise? How does that work? They were from First Contact.
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Feb 2, 2020 07:29
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Cojawfee posted:They were from First Contact. I guess that solves a problem, but there are still others
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PostNouveau posted:I guess that solves a problem, but there are still others Don't worry, the doctor from Ent cured his nanoprobe issue with like a CT scan, so nothing had to matter later.
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PostNouveau posted:What the gently caress. The borg were on Enterprise? How does that work? they managed to make it boring
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PostNouveau posted:I guess that solves a problem, but there are still others It was a very "we're out of ideas so here's the Borg" episode. A science team finds the remains of the sphere from First Contact crashed in the Arctic and they start excavating it, only the drones reactivate, assimilate the research team and use their ship to try and escape back to the Delta Quadrant. Starfleet sends the Enterprise in to stop them, Phlox gets assimilated but then just kind of... gets over it. They blow up the ship and all the Borg are destroyed without a trace left behind, but then T'Pol goes "Oh, they sent a signal towards the Delta Quadrant right before the ship blew up with information on Earth's co-ordinates and humanity. It won't reach its destination for another 200 years, so we're probably cool... (THIS IS WHY THE BORG KNOW ABOUT THE FEDERATION AND ARE ON THEIR WAY TO SECTOR 001 IN TNG WHEN Q SHOWS UP, GET IT YOU STUPID NERDS?!)" And then they just forget to tell United Earth and Starfleet about it. Another job well done for the NX-01 
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Feb 2, 2020 07:56
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Modern Star Trek Megathread: Theorycrafting That Made My Borg A Romulan
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Nitrousoxide posted:The borg being like 30 years old don't make any sense. How'd they get to the delta quadrant and build a massive empire? They did say the Zhat Vash secret was thousands of years old. Something like that. The word thousand was used.
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Regarde Aduck posted:They did say the Zhat Vash secret was thousands of years old. Something like that. The word thousand was used. I remember years ago when  was still on, there was some running speculation that the "God" the Cylons found out in the galactic wilderness which then told them to go back to the Colonies and bomb the poo poo out of them until all the humans were dead was actually some sort of eldritch alien ASI construct which they came to revere as a literal god. At least until they swung hard left and it turned it was Actually Just Literally God because Ron Moore thought he was making some kind of profound statement.What if that's what's happening here, and that the Romulans, or at least the Zhat Vash found some kind of alien artificial superintelligence when they landed on Romulus or on their their exodus from Vulcan to Romulus and it was the "thou shalt have no other gods before me" kind of digital god? Hence why complex computers were taboo in Romulan society and androids/holograms were kill-on-sight targets for the Tal Shiar and others. I mean, if I seem to recall correctly, the Zhat Vash are described as basically being a cult, am I right? nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Feb 2, 2020 09:55
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I wonder if Dahj and her sister ever wondered why they 100% identical, like even more than normal twins.
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Feb 2, 2020 09:59
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If they found records of dahj calling her sister, why don't they just look her up and find out where she is?
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Feb 2, 2020 10:03
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Cojawfee posted:If they found records of dahj calling her sister, why don't they just look her up and find out where she is? They do know where Soji is. Narek is a Zhat Vash operative. His plan is gently caress to Soji into whatever scheme his superiors are running. "Rizzo" was sent to bring in Dahj and she went with "strike team and black bag" as her #1 option and it failed spectacularly. Narek's version is currently up in the air on its failure state. But Rizzo wants to try her "just black bag her" plan again on Soji because... uh... second time's the charm? 
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Feb 2, 2020 10:10
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It’s all V’ger. Everything was V’ger.
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Feb 2, 2020 10:11
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nine-gear crow posted:I remember years ago when They are described as as secret society inside everything else to protect a secret and that they hate AI. Hatred of AI might speak more to how AI caused some really bad thing in the Romulans distant past more so than "actually all the romulans are robuts". Like to your point maybe they followed some AI god to leave Vulcan until they discovered the error of their ways. We know so little about Romulans really it could be drat near anything.
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Feb 2, 2020 10:20
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A whole conspiracy plot seems cliche for Star Trek at this point, but given it's the Romulans it seems overdue given that's supposed to be their entire thing.
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Feb 2, 2020 10:56
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I wonder if Sela is still alive. Since we're Romulaning things up it would be fitting to bring her in to gently caress with Picard.
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Rhyno posted:I wonder if Sela is still alive. Since we're Romulaning things up it would be fitting to bring her in to gently caress with Picard. God Sela is the worst character, I really hope they don't ever bring her back or mention her again. What a horrible ending for Tasha, I hate it so much. Escaping her world of rape gangs to be in Starfleet, only to end up being raped and then executed by Romulans. Great.
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