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Heather Papps posted:i am sorry it's early, i am not attempting to imply you are this type of person, but that there are a lot of folk who spend more time worrying about other peoples lives than their own, and i don't understand it. Yeah I do creative stuff so it's actually in my interest to understand the patreon model because I may consider it in the future, thank you for your apology. I had assume based on how much you post in this thread you would already be familiar with its ethos
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Why are you alluding me to be a psychopath for asking how patreon works, seems rude typing patreon pricing plan into google is one of three signs of a early psychopathy, along with bedwetting and firestarting
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I psychopathically looked it up and Patreon's fees shouldn't take more than 15 - 20% at the most. They then send you a 1099 and from there you pay income taxes on it, so if you are in a 30% tax bracket then I guess it does come to around 45 - 50%.
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He said "taxes and fees" so I imagine it's patreon's usurious fees on top of normal taxes. How we as a society have stumbled into relying on services that take a high flat percentage of what should be pass-through donations, I don't know, but it sucks. Nothing patreon does ought to earn them fees linear in the amount donated, it should be logarithmic at most.
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Lol if the patreon cut is counted on your 1099 as an extra gently caress you on your taxes btw.
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lowtax should do like my friend does and intentionally make less money so he doesnt have to pay more taxes
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:He said "taxes and fees" so I imagine it's patreon's usurious fees on top of normal taxes. How we as a society have stumbled into relying on services that take a high flat percentage of what should be pass-through donations, I don't know, but it sucks. Nothing patreon does ought to earn then fees linear in the amount donated, it should be logarithmic at most. Jeff if you could get the store to have a recurring donation people do it in a heartbeat. But that's devil coding at it's core to mess with the storefront I'd expect
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thank god president bernie will lower taxes on the middle class
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Lol if the patreon cut is counted on your 1099 as an extra gently caress you on your taxes btw. Uh yeah here's to hoping that the website is set up as a separate business...
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has anybody made a joke about donating to both the patreon and the gfm at the same time and saying "now that's what I call paying 'Taxes"
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rear end cobra posted:those fees. patreon the company must be making more money than god Actually they were told by the VC funding them two years ago to increase fees and earn more money. Because gently caress you So they made a new credit card fee that took a percentage from each donation. Instead of a lump per month that was much smaller
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Yeah I do creative stuff so it's actually in my interest to understand the patreon model because I may consider it in the future, thank you for your apology. I had assume based on how much you post in this thread you would already be familiar with its ethos this thread has no consistent ethos.
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Talking about how people are giving their money to patreon and the government instead of you probably doesn't make people want to continue doing so just fyi
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Jeff if you could get the store to have a recurring donation people do it in a heartbeat. But that's devil coding at it's core to mess with the storefront I'd expect They'd have to get a payment processor that can do recurring donations. You don't want to try storing CC info as a regular business, it's a compliance nightmare. That said, I'm not betting on SA being PCI compliant anyway since the entire checkout process is hosted here
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assuming 50% is an approximate number: ~24-32% taxes (income) + ~5-12% patreon fee + ~3-5% payment processing fees (+10-30 cents per transaction)
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Lowtax just give us your home address so we can mail you cash
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Snazzy Frocks posted:Talking about how people are giving their money to patreon and the government instead of you probably doesn't make people want to continue doing so just fyi Lol no matter what he has to pay taxes. And as inept says we don't have recurring payments so patreons the best way unless people set reminders to donate on time. And it's still better then loving paypal
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lowtax start a true crime podcast if you want to start making the big patreon bucks
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rear end cobra posted:lowtax start a true crime podcast if you want to start making the big patreon bucks he could do like 5 episodes on your posting
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rear end cobra posted:lowtax start a true crime podcast if you want to start making the big patreon bucks
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VikingSkull posted:he could do like 5 episodes on your posting he could also do an episode on this brutal murder that just occurred
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:I think an annual event where we get to hunt the moderation staff with machetes and dogs would be a moneymaker This.
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can you people stop, just for one day, fantasizing about killing people you disagree with? just one day?
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Il Federale posted:he could also do an episode on this brutal murder that just occurred Pretty psychopathic if you ask me but just slightly below googling patreon fees and taxes
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VikingSkull posted:can you people stop, just for one day, fantasizing about killing people you disagree with? That's not a very viking attitude.
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VikingSkull posted:can you people stop, just for one day, fantasizing about killing people you disagree with? You know what I want to murder? What i really want to just tear apart? A New™ Reaper™ Ranch™ Double™ Stacked™ Taco™ from™ Taco™ Bell™
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Rectal Death Adept posted:You know what I want to murder? What i really want to just tear apart? they're gone already and replaced by nacho fries bullshit
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Lucavi posted:I will pledge 5 dollars a month for fyad to open
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man my list of crazy people is getting fuller by the day checks list heather papps heather papps heather papps heather papps heather papps heather papps hmmm, yes. adds another heather papps to the list
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communist kangaroo posted:they're gone already and replaced by nacho fries bullshit nacho fries were alright but I had some of those buffalo chicken ones and I really wanted to Think Outside My Bathroom™
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Lowtax posted:Love how banning all these toxic idiot posters has caused my patreon to drop by almost $4000 a month now. It's cool that eradicating the trash from the forums will end up costing me financially by nearly $48,000 a year. Patreons go down all the time. From the moment your patreon spiked to its highest point last year it slowly started to trickle downward. The recent stuff may have exacerbated it but it was going to lower to that point eventually. It's standard marketing, if people aren't being reminded of something they'll slowly just forget it. Coca Cola once stopped advertising their sodas under the belief that everyone already knows about it, and their sales went down a good deal. I would advise to once a year post a red text notice on the forums asking people to support the patreon to help keep the forums up. Leave it up for a month or so and people will probably subscribe to it.
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Lowtax posted:IRS is punishing me for owing like a billion dollars in back taxes, but the joke's on them because I DONT ACTUALLY OWN ANYTHING OF VALUE i think this explains the taxes part
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Inept posted:They'd have to get a payment processor that can do recurring donations. You don't want to try storing CC info as a regular business, it's a compliance nightmare. That said, I'm not betting on SA being PCI compliant anyway since the entire checkout process is hosted here that's a pretty good point. maybe I should be using a special dedicated credit card with like a $10 max limit for any purchases VikingSkull posted:can you people stop, just for one day, fantasizing about killing people you disagree with? I can't. I researched patreon once and now look at me
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Huh, I thought Donald Trump abolished taxes and that's why there's a zillion dollar deficit now
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five guys is my fave treat i also like to eat at the fast food place called five guys sometimes tok
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