|
Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Vernon Subutex by Virginie Despentes has a loser as protagonist. The titular character is a failed record shop owner, barely surviving in Paris, but also feeling above everyone else that can afford stuff like food or a place to live. It’s dire Yo these books are really good though not necessarily fully about Vernon but a group of other losers as well. I'm still eagerly awaiting for the 3rd to come out in English - not sure my French is good enough to read it.
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2020 05:36
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 14:09 |
|
|
derp posted:Just finished Notes from Underground. I really love these books about complete loving losers who think they are above everyone. Any other's to recommend? (Have read Pale Fire, Lolita and The Loser which also have similar vibes of what I'm looking for)
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2020 06:25
|
|
|
thehoodie posted:Yo these books are really good though not necessarily fully about Vernon but a group of other losers as well. I'm still eagerly awaiting for the 3rd to come out in English - not sure my French is good enough to read it. Yeah, I’ve only read the first one but I really stuck with me. I used to be a poor bohemian in a big city and this book struck too close to home at times.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2020 07:26
|
|
|
Eugene V. Dubstep posted:Menippean satire Thanks for this BTW.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2020 08:24
|
|
|
derp posted:Just finished Notes from Underground. I really love these books about complete loving losers who think they are above everyone. Any other's to recommend? (Have read Pale Fire, Lolita and The Loser which also have similar vibes of what I'm looking for) Please read my favorite nonfiction book of all time: The Autobiography of Benvenuto Cellini. The dude was a world class narcissist who also happened to be a legitimately talented sculptor who rubbed elbows with many of Renaissance Italy's brightest political and artistic lights. Every sentence is a masterpiece of total self-absorbtion and there are also enough duels and battles and imprisonments to keep things lively. It is also a detailed and interesting description of the time and place.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2020 23:58
|
|
|
cda posted:Please read my favorite nonfiction book of all time: The Autobiography of Benvenuto Cellini. The dude was a world class narcissist who also happened to be a legitimately talented sculptor who rubbed elbows with many of Renaissance Italy's brightest political and artistic lights. Every sentence is a masterpiece of total self-absorbtion and there are also enough duels and battles and imprisonments to keep things lively. It is also a detailed and interesting description of the time and place. I saw him in Harold Bloom's list and read his wiki. Wild. "In the attack on Rome by Charles III, Duke of Bourbon, Cellini's bravery proved of signal service to the pontiff. According to his own accounts, he himself shot and injured Philibert of Châlon, prince of Orange (allegedly Cellini also killed Charles III, Duke of Bourbon during the Siege of Rome)." "On returning to Rome, he was employed in the working of jewellery and in the execution of dies for private medals and for the papal mint. In 1529 his brother Cecchino killed a Corporal of the Roman Watch and in turn was wounded by an arquebusier, later dying of his wound. Soon afterward Benvenuto killed his brother's killer – an act of blood revenge but not justice as Cellini admits that his brother's killer had acted in self-defense. Cellini fled to Naples to shelter from the consequences of an affray with a notary, Ser Benedetto, whom he had wounded. Through the influence of several cardinals, Cellini obtained a pardon. He found favor with the new pope, Paul III, notwithstanding a fresh homicide during the interregnum three days after the death of Pope Clement VII in September 1534. The fourth victim was a rival goldsmith, Pompeo of Milan." "In 1548, Cellini was accused by a woman named Margherita, of having committed sodomy with her son, Vincenzo" "Meanwhile, in Paris a former model and lover brought charges against him of using her "after the Italian fashion" (i.e. sodomy)." TLDR: Cellini was a cool dude and I'm going to read his book.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 00:38
|
|
|
Hi lit thread, I need your help. I've been asked to translate a piece of my choosing pertaining to "water" (yes, it's that broad) for a literary magazine. Preferably a short story, and it needs to be originally in English. Something to make the work stand out - an author that's promising but yet to break through, uniqueness in form, prose poetry, that kind of stuff - is a big plus. Hopefully you guys can give me some good recommendations 
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 14:37
|
|
|
Do Moby Dick OP
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 14:44
|
|
|
i am water soft enough to offer life tough enough to drown it away
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 14:47
|
|
|
Water? I never touch the stuff. Very unhealthy. Fish gently caress in it.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 14:51
|
|
|
Budgie Jumping posted:Do Moby Dick OP Yeah in like chapter 1 he talks about the hood water has over the human spirit. It’s really good. But probably far too known for what op is after
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 15:11
|
|
|
yeah it cant already be translated
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 15:13
|
|
|
Lex Neville posted:Hi lit thread, I need your help. I've been asked to translate a piece of my choosing pertaining to "water" (yes, it's that broad) for a literary magazine. Preferably a short story, and it needs to be originally in English. Something to make the work stand out - an author that's promising but yet to break through, uniqueness in form, prose poetry, that kind of stuff - is a big plus. Can it be an essay? I read this piece in The Best American Science and Nature Writing from last year: https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/water/compassionate-substance Not sure if it's popular enough to be already translated tho
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 15:22
|
|
|
Cheers! Popularity is not a factor, only (literary) quality. If anything, too popular is an issue. I'll be reading this tonight. I'm sure an essay would be fine, though it'll depend on whether it qualifies as literary
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 15:43
|
|
|
Lex Neville posted:Cheers! Popularity is not a factor, only (literary) quality. If anything, too popular is an issue. I'll be reading this tonight. I'm sure an essay would be fine, though it'll depend on whether it qualifies as literary idk if this thing from granta that is sort of about the waters of lourdes ever got translated: https://granta.com/blue-hills-chalk-bone/
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 16:11
|
|
|
Lex Neville posted:Cheers! Popularity is not a factor, only (literary) quality. If anything, too popular is an issue. I'll be reading this tonight. I'm sure an essay would be fine, though it'll depend on whether it qualifies as literary
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 16:26
|
|
|
CestMoi posted:i am water I went to google a rupi kaur poem about water and saw this. thought for sure you just farted it out as a joke
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 16:35
|
|
|
I love that poem because it’s Rupi Kaur coolly stating that she’s capable of murder.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 16:50
|
|
|
I’m now convinced that Rupi Kaur writes poems intended to be tattooed on wrists, lower backs and ankles.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 17:16
|
|
|
derp posted:I went to google a rupi kaur poem about water and saw this. thought for sure you just farted it out as a joke it wouild take a lot of effort for me to come up with something as bizarre as describing water as soft, and then implying that that softness is the reason we are alive
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 18:01
|
|
|
Budgie Jumping posted:Water? I never touch the stuff. Very unhealthy. Fish gently caress in it. What about the script to the fish loving movie from a couple years back
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 18:26
|
|
|
CestMoi posted:i am water This makes me feel like I'm in a Hobby Lobby aisle with all the signs. A stranger tugs my elbow. "Aren't these beautiful," they ask.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 18:31
|
|
|
The North Tower posted:
Cool, I hope you like it. All that stuff is in the book and lots of other fights and murders and weird poo poo like getting high with a mystical guy in the colosseum and seeing demons. My absolute favorite part happens after he gets imprisoned by the Pope but I don't want to give it away because it's too loving strange. If even half the stories he tells about himself are true, he led one of the most interesting lives of all time.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2020 18:41
|
|
|
Started reading Raymond Queneau's Exercises in Style, in which he tells the story of a young man who gets into a fight on a tram and then is told he needs to sew a button on his overcoat, in 99 different styles. It's good.
|
|
#
?
Feb 1, 2020 18:37
|
|
|
Lex Neville posted:Hi lit thread, I need your help. I've been asked to translate a piece of my choosing pertaining to "water" (yes, it's that broad) for a literary magazine. Preferably a short story, and it needs to be originally in English. Something to make the work stand out - an author that's promising but yet to break through, uniqueness in form, prose poetry, that kind of stuff - is a big plus. Incarnations of Burned Children OP.
|
|
#
?
Feb 1, 2020 19:08
|
|
|
Nitevision posted:Incarnations of Burned Children OP. Oof. This is my favorite short of his, likely cause it's so different from the other shorts.
|
|
#
?
Feb 1, 2020 19:51
|
|
|
Nitevision posted:Incarnations of Burned Children OP. this is a great suggestion, cheers! will definitely make the list of proposals
|
|
#
?
Feb 1, 2020 22:01
|
|
|
I just got done reading Richard III by William Shakespeare. I found it to be... shallow and pedantic. Heh. Not really. It was pretty loving good. Richard was a total rear end in a top hat piece of poo poo the whole time, but I feel like he just kind of shrugs and holds up his hands like "Eh" and carries on about his way without giving a single gently caress about anyone. I respect that. I think it's the toughest play I've read by Shakespeare yet. The amount of different people and differing families felt like reading a screen play of Game of Thrones without any frame of reference about who's who. But I guess that is normal considering these people would have been much fresher in the public mind than they are ~500 years and a continent away. I loved the language of the play, especially his interaction with Anne. He's so fuckin slimy and what a baller really. Richard was pretty much the incarnation of gently caress bitches get money in this play. I need to read more about the real man and actual accounts of his life. That will make for a much different perspective, I'm sure. Not sure if he was really as bad as they say. They found the poor bastard's remains in a grocery store parking lot or some such and VERIFIED the motherfucker through D N MOTHERFUCKING A. How cool is that? All the characters being so sure that they are cool with him while he plans to kill them owns, too. Everyone thoroughly shits on him throughout the play. Is Richard III the original incel? Or is he too successful with women to be classified as such? Or is he a legitimized something else? drat goons this is spicy stuff get it on this with me if ye dare.
|
|
#
?
Feb 1, 2020 22:49
|
|
|
vandalism posted:I just got done reading Richard III by William Shakespeare. I found it to be... shallow and pedantic. Heh. Not really. It was pretty loving good. this is the worst post ive ever read in this thread
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 03:10
|
|
|
Pretty much the sriracha bacon of Elizabethan theatre.
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 03:23
|
|
|
chernobyl kinsman posted:this is the worst post ive ever read in this thread You could say the thread was... Vandalized.
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 03:24
|
|
|
I regret the whole thing but there it is. Play is good though and as annoying as some of the parts were there is like 0.02 of value in there. My post that is. Wow goddamn what a lovely post I made. I'm going to print it out and flush it down the toilet. I need a book to read that the rest of the forum is reading and maybe I'll offer up something novel in a different frame of mind. vandalism fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Feb 2, 2020 |
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 06:03
|
|
|
Read sebald
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 06:12
|
|
|
vandalism posted:I regret the whole thing but there it is. Play is good though and as annoying as some of the parts were there is like 0.02 of value in there. stop reading reddit
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 07:38
|
|
|
chernobyl kinsman posted:this is the worst post ive ever read in this thread i knew you didnt proofread yours
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 12:08
|
|
|
Nearly halfway through brothers and it’s remarkable Fyodor has remained unmurdered this entire time. Ivan is wonderful and the Grand Inquisitor lived up to the expectation
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 12:24
|
|
|
it’s cool to really love something you read, but try to avoid memes when describing what you loved
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 14:28
|
|
|
Moby Dick was mostly ftw but it was kind of tiresome how the whale would just Kramer in all the time and then Ishmael would whitesplain it, meanwhile Ahab kept showing his whole rear end, which was kinda cringey. But I have to admit that in spite of it being problematic, a lot of the story was fairly loving epic and there's all kinds of possibilities for shipping.
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 19:35
|
|
|
what’s the spiciest incel baller fellow goons
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 20:29
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 14:09 |
|
|
Ahab is a messy bitch and that’s the tea sis
|
|
#
?
Feb 2, 2020 23:26
|
|