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I think it's great how at the end of Mr. Mistoffelees' song, Tom Hooper made grown human actors mewl and meow out of joy.
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if the rest of the movie was like skimbleshanks' scene, it would have won best picture.
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Feb 2, 2020 21:59
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I honestly like most of the sequences. Naming of Cats is very cool, Jellicle Songs is a lot of fun, Old Deuteronomy's entrance is very mysterious, Gus' has some great acting, Macavity is super catchy, and Skimble is an amazing "wha-wha-whaat", and a good break from the Egyptian Theater setting.
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Feb 2, 2020 22:05
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Ccs posted:I honestly like most of the sequences. Naming of Cats is very cool, Jellicle Songs is a lot of fun, Old Deuteronomy's entrance is very mysterious, Gus' has some great acting, Macavity is super catchy, and Skimble is an amazing "wha-wha-whaat", and a good break from the Egyptian Theater setting. yes yes yes. ignoring the cg fur calamity, there are some fun songs and real nice dance performances. if they had played the movie straight, with just humans dressed as humans, hell maybe they're wearing cat themed clothes like orange fleece, or furry jackets (like how judi dench was just wearing a coat, and the coat worked way better than the added cg fur), and you play up the physical performances part of the movie -- you have a good musical! it would still be a weird experience, but it will be a fun weird thing that you play along with (yes they're just humans acting as sorta-cats), instead of ......whatever this is that they made. edit: picture this; a jason derulo wearing an unzipped hoodie (with cat ears on top of the hood) and no shirt, he's dancing somewhat like a cat, but towards someone who is clearly human, it's erotic, it's enticing, it barely has to do with cats and is 1000% less creepy than cg fur piratepilates fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Feb 2, 2020 22:20
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It seems like all the cats are trying to gently caress Victoria or seduce her all the time. Nothing ever gels. The elements of the film Sit on top of each other like strata of filth. The horniness isn’t part of the story it’s this just terrible disconnected element that accompanies the other things like how the words and actions often seem at odds. The Naming of Cats takes place in a cemetery and instead of cats being spooky to the audience it’s all the cats treating her like a swinger cult that just tricked a nice sheltered girl to their sex party. Rebel Wilson just blasting her splayed cervix at the screen like some hellish gynecologist appointment. The mice children are more disturbing each time. She eats babies. She calls the child-mice “dinner and a show”. In her song alone she manages to be a thousand Jar Jar’s in ever second. She makes the racist robots in Transformers 2 seem endearing. The roaches. The roaches. Her skin. She kicks the cake. Feasting on them. Horrifying. It really is one of the most terrible things ever released on film. There’s so much work work and creativity in the terrible movie. Its amazing how every. Single. Joke. Fails. 100%. The pet where Rum Tum Tigher is about to suck Victoria’s toes. The milk. The spurting milk. I still hate James Corden I want him destroyed. The trash orgy. Jesus. Jesus Christ why? The visuals and music are disagreeing. Or they don’t even seem to be in the same room even. Why do they interrupt the song every few seconds for another nightmare? Who the gently caress is Tom Hooper? What is wrong with his brain? This was all intentional. They didn’t just accidentally create this entire horrible trash eating orgy of fat jokes and nut shots and filth. Mungojerry and Rumpleteezer have an incredibly skeevy vibe they can’t shake it. This movie is like a bad dream where you’re at an endless kink meetup your never want to get into and trying to escape each door just leads to another bunch of LARPers in bondage gear trying to some scold you into polyamory. The dancing is great. Idris Elba disappearing with a MEOW cracks me up still. And then I wandered off.
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Feb 2, 2020 22:24
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Imagine writing The Waste Land and this is what survives most of your writing lol
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Feb 3, 2020 00:38
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i still can't get over how Old Deuteronomy is such a loving badass name. Judi needs to be the final boss of Bloodborne 2.
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piratepilates posted:yes yes yes. ignoring the cg fur calamity, there are some fun songs and real nice dance performances. if they had played the movie straight, with just humans dressed as humans, hell maybe they're wearing cat themed clothes like orange fleece, or furry jackets (like how judi dench was just wearing a coat, and the coat worked way better than the added cg fur), and you play up the physical performances part of the movie -- you have a good musical! it would still be a weird experience, but it will be a fun weird thing that you play along with (yes they're just humans acting as sorta-cats), instead of ......whatever this is that they made. The opposite is true, this should have been made entirely with actual cats.
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Smirking_Serpent posted:i still can't get over how Old Deuteronomy is such a loving badass name. Judi needs to be the final boss of Bloodborne 2. Dark Souls with cats?
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Feb 3, 2020 04:26
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have Ralph Bakshi rotoscope this movie and make Lord of the Cats
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Feb 3, 2020 07:55
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precision posted:Imagine writing The Waste Land and this is what survives most of your writing lol It's ironically poetic.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Dark Souls with cats? Cats is the Dark Souls of movies.
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Desperate Character posted:have Ralph Bakshi rotoscope this movie and make Lord of the Cats   
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weekly font posted:Cats is the Dark Souls of movies. Im waiting for Bloodborne
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Okay, did anyone else find Victoria extremely uncomfortably fascinatingly charmless? I feel like half the movie is just closeups of her making creepy doe eyes at everything. Ick. She & Mistoffeles were the Jim & Pam of this movie, and the climax where they rub faces was weird, albeit more sensical than a makeout sesh would have been. Also, the entire theater groaned/"ew"ed when that one little river of snot flowed down into Jennifer Hudson's mouth. Also also, I had never heard of James Corden before, and so I had no idea what character he was playing. I looked up & read a shitload of negative reviews (I love negative reviews of bad things a lot, it's a guilty-but-not-really pleasure), and almost all of them mentioned how terrible James Corden was in the movie AND how terrible he is outside of the movie. After seeing him as Bustopher Jones, I'm afraid to see him in anything else, because holy mother of god.  Also also also, while I didn't dislike the Skimbleshanks bit, it was more like a breath of fresh air than something I actually enjoyed, kind of on the same level as the scene with the calico thieves. The guy who played Skimbleshanks is extraordinarily talented though. I will end this post by saying that I thought it was weird to have a male calico and a male tortie in the movie, although if nobody except Ian McKellen knew how cats actually act, then I shouldn't have expected them to know anything about cat genetics either.
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Feb 3, 2020 22:15
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yeah, about half the movie is reaction shots of victoria etc in sheer bliss and or religious ecstasy, it's pretty cool
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Feb 3, 2020 22:24
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The only good movie James Corden is in is The Last Jedi, because he's only there for a second and then he dies. This is why The Last Jedi is the best star war.
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Feb 3, 2020 22:30
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TremorX posted:The only good movie James Corden is in is The Last Jedi, because he's only there for a second and then he dies. This is why The Last Jedi is the best star war. I had no idea he was in it! Thank God for him not getting a bigger role because even I couldn’t forgive TLJ if I had to endure him more than necessary.
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Feb 3, 2020 23:44
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Trying to find the clip I discovered I'm wrong, apparently it's Jamie Christopher. So Corden is NOT in The Last Jedi but someone who looks basically just like him during the shot is, so you both don't actually have to see James Corden AND you get to watch him die.
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Smirking_Serpent posted:yeah, about half the movie is reaction shots of victoria etc in sheer bliss and or religious ecstasy, it's pretty cool Truly, she is the audience surrogate.
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Feb 4, 2020 01:24
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I kind of liked Corden in the Carpool Kareoke bits he does, then I realized I only ever watch them months later on youtube and only with artists I like, so I think it was always more "I like Carpool Kareoke in spite of James Corden."
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Smirking_Serpent posted:yeah, about half the movie is reaction shots of victoria etc in sheer bliss and or religious ecstasy, Yeah Twitch posted:Truly, she is the audience surrogate. They should have had more shots of her recoiling in horror then
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https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/esog6z/theatrefanfic_the_weirdo_cats_drama_we_all_deserve/quote:There’s not a lot of Official Canon lore. From what I understand, actors pretty much have free range to create their characters’ relationships and backstories. There are some basic descriptions in the text. For example, Bustopher Jones is a fat, posh cat. Rum Tum Tugger is particularly horny and sexy, even by cat standards (even though in T.S Eliot’s source poem he’s just finicky and indecisive—Andrew Lloyd Webber read that and said, ‘That’s hot.’) Skimbleshanks is the Greatest of All Time. And some background cats get a handful of adjectives to play off of, like “playful” or “clairvoyant.”
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Cats are vile creatures who do incest all the time. The film is a documentary
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I think this film is like a ritual or something. Definitely occult. Definitely parasitic in some way (visual toxoplasmosis?). Probably by the government. It's the only way I can square any of the horniness: Conservative government attempts to weaponize occult horniness against the world, but feels too ashamed to cop to actually being horny in the decent open but this is HOLLYWOOD, baby. Everyone's horny. Commit to shameful cat hornyness, but ehhh just can't look at my wife the same. Some rewrites happen. Tom Hooper gets CAUGHT UP. Last minute changes. Big Government gun-to-head, they grind the CGI company into insnufflateble powder. Insnufflate some powder. Cash government check. Ship the movie. Done. But wait there's human hands everywhere. Clipping. Horror. Sift the CGI dust for one last unpowdered grain of effort. Patch film. Re-ship, but cannot contain the occult cat horniness, a la T-Rex in Jurassic Park 2. Follow the screams. ThePopeOfFun fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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The Saddest Rhino posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/esog6z/theatrefanfic_the_weirdo_cats_drama_we_all_deserve/ Jemima was a big favorite for those grew up with the 1998 VHS/DVD. I could see why she would be in a lot fanfics. I'm surprised she wasn't in the film, actually.
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She was sorta in the film? It's not the first time the 'is Jemima a racist name' thing came up so in a lot of productions she's named Sillabub. (Japan has them as two separate cats) so there was a Sillabub in the movie but like so many other cats you can't tell who the gently caress she is. Like if you watch the credits they're all there but I couldn't tell you which one was Tantomile or Alonzo or whoever.
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Not sure why just the name, Jemima, is considered racist. It's a biblical name that's actually pretty common, and it's not as if Jemima Cat was portrayed like a mammie caricature. I have to admit she's pretty drat cute.
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Smirking_Serpent posted:i still can't get over how Old Deuteronomy is such a loving badass name. Judi needs to be the final boss of Bloodborne 2. Also how is "The Heavicide [sic] Layer" not a Candlemass song or something.
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Cucumbers posted:I think it's great how at the end of Mr. Mistoffelees' song, Tom Hooper made grown human actors mewl and meow out of joy. It unironically loving rules that he mentioned in that interview de-erotifying some of the production a bit but then right as that song ends you see them mewling and then Mistoffelees lustfully sniffs the back of Judi Dench's neck and for that second or two is clearly enjoying it way more than is healthy.
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Jemima is a biblical name but in some places is best known as a blackface minstrel character, so it's not an accusation entirely out of the blue, I guess. I suppose a better argument would be that a regular-rear end human name has no place in a cast of folks like 'Quaxo' and 'Bombalurina'. She's Sillabub in the 2016 revival, that much I know.
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If I had a cat named Jemima, I would probably call her Mimey. That said, nothing about that cat seems racist to me.
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YggiDee posted:Jemima is a biblical name but in some places is best known as a blackface minstrel character, so it's not an accusation entirely out of the blue, I guess. I suppose a better argument would be that a regular-rear end human name has no place in a cast of folks like 'Quaxo' and 'Bombalurina'. She's Sillabub in the 2016 revival, that much I know. Like Victoria she's a kitten and doesn't have her Jellicle name yet.
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YggiDee posted:Jemima is a biblical name but in some places is best known as a blackface minstrel character, so it's not an accusation entirely out of the blue, I guess. I suppose a better argument would be that a regular-rear end human name has no place in a cast of folks like 'Quaxo' and 'Bombalurina'. She's Sillabub in the 2016 revival, that much I know. Who the gently caress is Quaxo?
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Necrothatcher posted:Who the gently caress is Quaxo? He's the name for the performer who does Mr Mistofelees when he's not actually in the 'sparkly jacket' getup. I think technically they're meant to be two different cats but eh, I suppose Quaxo is his cat-level name and Mr Mistofelees is what the family calls him. OR HER. Mungojerrie and Rumpelteazer are always portrayed as very similar-looking and, since the 1998 production, usually both calicos. I dunno if Mungojerrie is meant to be a female or an XXY male. Quite a few of the cats' traditional looks don't really resemble colouration you'd find on a real cat.
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Basically Quaxo is what they call Mister Mistoffelees when he's a chorus cat with the white armwarmers/legwarmers. They're usually the same performer but once in a while they're two different cats. Maybe Mistoffelees is a stage name?
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Neo Rasa posted:Also how is "The Heavicide [sic] Layer" not a Candlemass song or something. Sounds more like Mars Volta
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precision posted:Sounds more like Mars Volta I would watch the poo poo out of Mars Volta's "Cats"
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Neo Rasa posted:It unironically loving rules that he mentioned in that interview de-erotifying some of the production a bit but then right as that song ends you see them mewling and then Mistoffelees lustfully sniffs the back of Judi Dench's neck and for that second or two is clearly enjoying it way more than is healthy. It's like the director wanted to sterilize it, but the actors knew that Cats is supposed to be an orgasmic explosion of debauchery and horniness. In my headcanon about how Cats was made, the shots Hooper used are the least horny ones. I want to believe that there is a version of Cats where a nude Idris Elba makes his butthole wink at Jason Derulo.
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TremorX posted:I would watch the poo poo out of Mars Volta's "Cats" De-Loused at the Cat Emporium
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