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Sand Monster posted:That's fair. I guess it's just that I'd expect them to have done the research/preparation and known or expected that the guards would have holdout weapons. They restrain the guards at the bank later on so I didn't get why the treatment was different in the two situations. Key word there is later. Restraining the bank guards could be a reaction to things going sideways on the armored car job.
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Pussy Quipped posted:I watched Suicide Squad last night and I think I could just type out a plot summary of the movie to be submitted to the thread. I liked that they spent millions either to dig down into the sewer and convert it into a cell for Croc, or they spent millions to make a prison cell look like a sewer. meanwhile fire guy gets a tube. you know they make fireproof chairs right? or blankets? also they're feeding Croc whole goats. do you know how expensive whole goats are? the petting zoo hung up on me but I bet they're a lot. they also specifically mention croc was trying to get "sanctuary" when he was captured, in this movie he's specifiucally not a bad guy: he's a freak who gets beaten and run out of towns until batman finds him and...pays for a sewer cell? the whole deadshot thing was a cluster too. why can't he get custody? his wife is a drunk who sleeps all day. does everyone know he's an assassin? and he just...visits his daughter and walks the streets hoping no one recognizes him? yeah he gets captured by batman (who uses a little girl as a shield) so maybe he shouldn't have been? also we just watched him make two million dollars for a single kill, is that not enough money to take his daughter and run away with? at the end he's all "we have to save the day so my daughter won't think I'm a piece of poo poo" as if the entire suicide squad wasn't designed explicitly to be disavowed if anything goes wrong, he was even told this before the title drop. so he's counting on...waller I guess? the woman he saw pointlessly gun down an entire room of people with clearance? they were so scared to make any character "bad" they ended up just filming poo poo that wouldn't stick to anything.
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Sand Monster posted:Watching Heat which as fans of the film are well aware, the attention to detail is incredible at times. I get that it's required to advance the plot, but this is the IIMM thread after all -- so, with the armored truck job at the beginning of the movie, why not disarm the guards? Waingro executes one for seemingly no reason, and the next guard pulls a gun from his leg holster. The crew is acclaimed for how professional they are, yet they don't take the guns away? It doesn't make much sense to me, but then again, pulling in a dip poo poo, loose cannon like Waingro for such a tight crew in the first place was totally stupid. I always figured Waingro was supposed to check them and didn't because he's a dipshit.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:35
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A goat is only like $100.
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Morpheus posted:I just finished the latest season of Sabrina on Netflix, and the tradition of Sabrina being a colossal fuckup continues directly through this season. It's wild that we're supposed to root for her despite the fact that almost everything terrible is a result of what she does, including (final couple of episode spoilers) bringing about the end of the world and hell due to her bad choices and then another possible apocalypse because she forgot the egg and ANOTHER apocalypse because she decided to cause a paradox. It totally vindicates all the people who think she's a loving idiot and makes them less like cookie cutter bad guys. 
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Alexander Hamilton posted:I always figured Waingro was supposed to check them and didn't because he's a dipshit. Waingro is a rapist and murderer. He got himself involved for the money, yes, but also the opportunity to kill people as "part of the job".
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The use-dinos-as-weapons scheme in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom is just so stupid. In order to get the dino to attack you have to mark the victim with a laser and why not just shoot him if you have to get that close. I saw Shazam and I genuinely liked it, but it's unbelievable that someone still uses the doomed board members cliche.
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Alhazred posted:The use-dinos-as-weapons scheme in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom is just so stupid. In order to get the dino to attack you have to mark the victim with a laser and why not just shoot him if you have to get that close. The whole thing with Sivana is a bit cliche but funny given Dr Sivana played more close to the comics would be even worse- he IS the cliche comic book supervillain, who so many others, including Lex Luthor, wholesale ripped their entire shtick from.
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I liked the board room scene if only because everyone was sort of "heh...what's going on?" and then the mood changed dramatically when that one guy got thrown through the window. Most board room assault scenes have that one or two guys playing it cool and no one was playing it cool after that happened. Shazam didn't feel like a DC movie. It wasn't painfully dark in subject matter and the special effects were actually good.
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Alhazred posted:The use-dinos-as-weapons scheme in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom is just so stupid. In order to get the dino to attack you have to mark the victim with a laser and why not just shoot him if you have to get that close. What irritates me is they mark a guy while the dino is caged to show off the laser targeting, and the dino snarls at him and tries to slash him. But then when the dino inevitably escapes, we don't get the payoff of the dino going after the person they put a kill order on.
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Also, apparently soccer players are more expensive than a real life dinosaur.
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Alhazred posted:Also, apparently soccer players are more expensive than a real life dinosaur. And not just a single dinosaur. These people are voting to have the only copy of that dinosaur, and thus 100% control of future creation and distribution of any further individuals of that species.
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Are you saying four million dollars isn't a realistic price point for an actual real-life dinosaur? It's like you idiots have never been to a dinosaur auction before 
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Using dinosaurs as military weapons is along the same lines as the dudes in the Alien movies trying to weaponize the xenomorphs and none of it makes any loving sense. I guess you could make a case for the military wanting to study the aliens to learn about the acid blood or whatever. Thinking they could drop some eggs into Iran or some poo poo and wipe out the population doesn't make any sense when you can just nuke them and not have to worry about what to do with 100's of out of control alien death monsters. The dinosaur thing makes even less sense since the scientists can already bio-engineer them so, rather than trying to train raptors or whatever dumb poo poo, why not work on coding them so they obey orders?
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Using aliens as a weapon kind of makes sense in space, you can just smuggle a bunch of eggs onto whatever planet/space station you want to gently caress up and let them run wild. Even if Sigourney Weaver happens to be there, they're statistically likely to kill a lot of people before she stops them 
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I assumed the guys who wanted to weaponize the xenomorphs didn't literally want tame xenomorphs. They wanted access to whatever their equivalent of DNA is for biotech weapons, because of their exotic biology and unique properties. Anybody read the most recent books in The Expanse series? Like that. In fact now that I think about it the thing we see the Engineer use in Prometheus is quite a lot like the Protomolecule.
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:Are you saying four million dollars isn't a realistic price point for an actual real-life dinosaur? It's like you idiots have never been to a dinosaur auction before Sshhhhhut up about dinosaur auctions Bird these people don't need to know about that poo poo!
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I'm pretty sure Paul Riser had no idea what xenomorphs were, just that they sounded like a pretty good weapon. Hundreds of years later they were still studying xenomorphs and under estimating them (alien blood melts steel floors). It makes perfect sense that keep making the same mistakes over and over again because everyone who makes the first mistake dies and can't warn others to not try that again. I guess Ripley survives (sort of) but no one listens to her.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I'm pretty sure Paul Riser had no idea what xenomorphs were, just that they sounded like a pretty good weapon. Hundreds of years later they were still studying xenomorphs and under estimating them (alien blood melts steel floors). Destroying all life on Earth doesn't stop greedy money grubbing assholes from being greedy money grubbing assholes now. Why would the future be any different?
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Cause the only place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism is space, duh.
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You use xenomorphs as deniable weapons. Oh, this competing company's station/planet was ate by bugs? Sucks for them! You can't nuke someone and get away with it. And if you know what they're all about, you can clean them out, while the victim force is caught unaware and get got
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Didn't they give some kind of ridiculously cheap price for the interstellar Nostromo while debriefing Ripley in Aliens? Like 40 million dollars? I can't tell if that's what people in the 1980's thought was a good price for a space ship, but if it was meant to sound cheap because this is so far into the future that currency valuation has significantly changed.
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It's in "adjusted dollars" so it could be any value really.
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Alhazred posted:The use-dinos-as-weapons scheme in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom is just so stupid. In order to get the dino to attack you have to mark the victim with a laser and why not just shoot him if you have to get that close. JW:FK is a garbage rear end movie on par with poo poo like ecks vs sever or fifth element
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oldpainless posted:JW:FK is a garbage rear end movie on par with poo poo like ecks vs sever or fifth element Yup. I loved the first Jurassic World because it hits all the bad movie tropes and is entertaining as a result. The second? Too dumb for dumb fun, and contemptuous of its audience.
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Fifth Element isn’t a great movie, but it doesn’t deserve to be in the same sentence as Ecks vs Sever, which is the worst named movie ever.
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Well Luc Besson is a pedophile who cheated on his groomed wife during the filming and it kinda bleeds into the plot.
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Of which movie? With that description I'd have bet on the Professional
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Well Luc Besson is a pedophile who cheated on his groomed wife during the filming and it kinda bleeds into the plot. If you just skip through all the scenes where Korben and Leeloo are the only characters then it's a perfect movie.
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It was already creepy with just the perfect woman looking very young and basically having the mind of a child, the behind the scenes stuff just makes it worse.
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torgeaux posted:Yup. I loved the first Jurassic World because it hits all the bad movie tropes and is entertaining as a result. The second? Too dumb for dumb fun, and contemptuous of its audience. I'd argue that the first one is worse. Fallen Kingdom is really dumb but at least it doesn't poo poo all over the other movies and have a scene where a woman is attacked at lenght by dinosaurs.
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My IIMM is that they keep making Jurassic Park movies instead of adapting Dinosaurs Attack!
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A piece of dinosaur media that ends with it being a good thing that the dinosaurs die cannot be good  There only way the killing of a dinosaur can be triumphant is if it is defeated by another dinosaur. Dr Christmas has a new favorite as of 09:57 on Feb 3, 2020 |
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Yeah, where are the Dinotopia specials Netflix? What the hell!
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I want a dinosaur movie where they all act like birds being idiots. I want raptors head-banging to music like a cockatoo, T-rexes running around in circles terrified of a random blade of grass like an emu, apatosaurs screaming at their own arseholes like a swan, etc.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I want a dinosaur movie where they all act like birds being idiots. Apatosaurs never evolved into birds, sorry.
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Also wasn't Apatosaurus the result of them putting the skeleton together incorrectly, or was that Iguanadon? I know it was one of those.
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BioEnchanted posted:Also wasn't Apatosaurus the result of them putting the skeleton together incorrectly, or was that Iguanadon? I know it was one of those. Apatosaurus is back to Brontosaurus, according to something I read. The victorians definitely had iguanodon wrong at first.  Go to the Crystal Palace if you ever get a chance, it's a trip.
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Dinos as weapons is so dumb. In fallen world, a guy buys an attack dino for multiple millions and when it's finally in action, it jumps on a dude who gutshots it with a 9mil and they both die. That's not a very good investment.
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ruddiger posted:My IIMM is that they keep making Jurassic Park movies instead of adapting Dinosaurs Attack! In another timeline we got that instead of Mars Attacks. This is truly the worst timeline Also y'all get entirely too hung up on the assistant getting eaten
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