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FoolyCharged posted:Is there anything, anything at all with this thing that isnt broken? payment processing?
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HonorableTB posted:LMAO there's a surefire way to tell where Undead and Night Elf players start without using any hacks. I should be shocked but it should not come as much of a surprise to anyone that Blizzard doesn't have proper QA anymore. How loving embarassing that something like this made it through to retail. There's also the broken score screens and team colors in multiplayer changing in mid-battle or when upgrading. All something you think wouldn't be languishing on a TODO or "Nice to have" list for final release.
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Feb 3, 2020 21:08
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HonorableTB posted:LMAO there's a surefire way to tell where Undead and Night Elf players start without using any hacks. Is this exclusive to the updated graphics? Or did they manage to backport a new bug?
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Feb 3, 2020 21:09
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Nostalgamus posted:Is this exclusive to the updated graphics? Or did they manage to backport a new bug? I'm 99% certain they backported it, I played against an elf using classic graphics on EI and noticed their gold mine didn't show and thought it was weird.
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Feb 3, 2020 22:23
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Nostalgamus posted:Is this exclusive to the updated graphics? Or did they manage to backport a new bug? I don't know and I haven't been able to test if it's backported because whenever I tried to swap graphics to WC3 Classic the client crashed
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Feb 3, 2020 22:31
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Two questions. Is it possible to move my saved game info from my mac to pc and back again? I am working through the campaign and sometimes I play on Lunch on my MacBook pro. Second, Is it possible to play a custom game 1v1 or 1v5 or whatever against AI? Setup a few AI to battle against or even have a few as allies vs other AI?
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Feb 3, 2020 22:34
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Feb 3, 2020 23:17
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-there's a couple of bugs we're going to fix -the stuff we accidentally broke was actually planned and we'll fix it eventually -all of the other poo poo is completely intentional and also planned
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Feb 3, 2020 23:25
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"At BlizzCon we talked a lot about how the team is actively working on standing up the back-end to ensure a smooth transition to this new MMR system, much like we did with StarCraft: Remastered. As with Remastered, these and other features will be included in a major patch for Reforged, which will also address the issue for players of the original game. We’ll share release plans as work progresses in the coming weeks" In other words... we had 3 years and sat on our hands and now realize that maybe players would like to see their stats and play against players of equal skill. We'll start work on that now, I guess, and discuss plans sometime down the road after everyone has quit playing again. I don't care about most of the bullshit surrounding reforged, I just wanted to play WC3 again with my college friends like we did 16+ years ago... Too bad most games are going to be a stomp one way or another until everyone stops playing because Blizzard didn't bother to have anything but the bare minimum non rated quick match for multiplayer ready on launch.
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Feb 3, 2020 23:46
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"Related to that, as we talked about last year at BlizzCon, we did not want the in-game cutscenes to steer too far from the original game. We went a little deeper into the thought process behind that at the show, but the main takeaway is that the campaigns tell one of the classic stories in Warcraft history, and we want to preserve the true spirit of Warcraft III and allow players to relive these unforgettable moments as they were (albeit rebuilt with new animations and the higher fidelity art)." BUT THIS IS BULLSHIT THEY CHANGED ALL THE CAMERA ANGLES FOR SOME BIZARRE REASON
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Feb 3, 2020 23:52
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Feb 3, 2020 23:53
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It says "Blizzard has left the game" in addition to the player every time someone leaves a versus game Thanks for letting me know I guess?
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Feb 3, 2020 23:54
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:It says "Blizzard has left the game" in addition to the player every time someone leaves a versus game We already knew Blizzard left the game, we can see that clearly with Reforged
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Horizon Burning posted:"Related to that, as we talked about last year at BlizzCon, we did not want the in-game cutscenes to steer too far from the original game. We went a little deeper into the thought process behind that at the show, but the main takeaway is that the campaigns tell one of the classic stories in Warcraft history, and we want to preserve the true spirit of Warcraft III and allow players to relive these unforgettable moments as they were (albeit rebuilt with new animations and the higher fidelity art)." loving LOL this is ridiculous
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So they're still sticking with the line that the art is somehow good. I think this pretty much confirms that there'll be fixing this shitshow.
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Feb 4, 2020 00:01
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Got my refund. I already had a ticket open due to having issues with trying to login to b.net here in Taiwan due to some stupid thing that Taiwan has where you're forced to link a local account number to your account, even if the account was created in another country. As a foreigner I don't have a local ID number and the U.S., English speaking, tech support people can't even see that information because Battle.net in Taiwan is operated by a whole different company. Happy to support the cause and make them realize how badly they screwed this up. Hopefully more people put action behind their complaints to get a refund. I'll come back in 6 months and see if things have improved but I'm not holding my breath and this whole thing has put such a bad taste in the mouths of my friends and I that I don't imagine I'll be able to convince them to return even the problems get fixed.
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I'm really, really interested to see what they will say about WC3:reforged sales. I mean they'll have to say something eventually.
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Lol they saw that close to two decades after release people were not using the automated tournaments much so they removed them and didn’t think that maybe there would be increased interest with reforged??
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I'm getting the distinct feeling that the WC3:R team is a total shitstorm right now. The game was rushed out in time for Activision's earnings report and they knew full-well that there would be backlash. It wasn't ready, that much is obvious. That update basically admits it. It's still a beta. DeadlyHalibut posted:I'm really, really interested to see what they will say about WC3:reforged sales. I mean they'll have to say something eventually. Looks like preorder numbers were high, that's what they'll use.
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That was, without a doubt, the most underwhelming developer update that I have ever read for anything. I'm at least a little relieved that they said they are gonna continue long term support and updates for Reforged, but I don't know how many months it will be until the game is vastly improved and I consider re-buying it.
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 Terror of the Tides (Night Elf campaign), Mission 06 (Shards of the Alliance) Tyrande Whisperwind makes a last stand against the undead on a bridge. It crumbles and Tyrande falls into the river. Original version (starts at 29:45) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVV_CEuCPpY&t=1785s Reforged version (starts at 21:55) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRmotpQhTvk&t=1315s They did not even animate the bridge breaking apart or bother moving Tyrande's model below the waterline. It just cuts straight past it all in Reforged. Gosh, can you tell that maybe this poo poo was all rushed? That developer update is straight bullshit, nobody gave a poo poo. ErrEff fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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Feb 4, 2020 01:10
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The removed screen/camera shake makes it look even lazier and less dangerous. Also the camera moves too much in both, but it's somehow more annoying and preset in Reforged.
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stev posted:So they're still sticking with the line that the art is somehow good. Unlike many other people I do not believe the art team is carrying Blizzard. I think the art is as bad as everything else. And that's on Blizzard, not the artists, whose personal art pages all show outstanding work. The Blizzard art look is stale, old, boring. Stuck perpetually in 2001. I think the Heroes team is the exception, which is pretty amusing given the Heroes team is what, 3 people working out of a supply closet at this point?
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ErrEff posted:Looks like preorder numbers were high, that's what they'll use. re earnings/shareholders report, Blizzard always gives a selection of data that is, uh, extremely carefully curated to be just this side of fradulent. It's more about what they don't say. Like they'll mention player counts are up for one game and then conveniently not touch that for the others. Last years report was all sunshine and flowers while several of their games were in a state of 'players say the game is so unbalanced it's unfun and the pro players and our own casters that we hired are openly mocking us for not understanding how our games work.' Then after a bunch of weird half-truths they'll throw in the 'we expect to make a fuckton of money on the chinese market' and the execs will have their positions for another year.
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ErrEff posted:They did not even animate the bridge breaking apart or bother moving Tyrande's model below the waterline. It just cuts straight past it all in Reforged. lmao the loving starfall animation doodad is still there after the bridge vanishes in the space of a single frame
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I really hate that the unit portraits don't have them goofily moving their head and mandible around.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:re earnings/shareholders report, It's illegal to lie to shareholders but oh boy is it ever legal to mislead them
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ErrEff posted:
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The game would probably still look better if they just ported WoW assets directly into Reforged though. 
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HonorableTB posted:Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6VqcERUK98 I hadn't actually seen it before until now, but my god that Night Elf wisp portrait looks hideous. Who on earth thought it'd be a good change to give it a dumb face like that? Why not just update the particle effects and be done with it, like, you know... A remaster?  E: Man, this is pretty depressing, honestly. Back in the day, I bought a new graphics card and the OG Warcraft 3 collector's edition and remember being in awe of the game. Those days are long gone, apparently.  I still can't believe it's possible to trash a remaster so hard you break the original copies people bought and paid for years ago to the point where they need to crack their own games. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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Someone has a paste bin floating around with downloads for all the old installers, and they still work with your legit keys which you can still pull from Bnet. I'd link it myself, but I'm not sure how close to "improper"  it is despite requiring keys.
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Feb 4, 2020 04:04
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gently caress 'em, Blizzard started it.
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Annath posted:Someone has a paste bin floating around with downloads for all the old installers, and they still work with your legit keys which you can still pull from Bnet. It's not filez if you actually own a license/key.
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Is there an instructional about setting up / using private internet servers somewhere that isn't outdated?
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Herstory Begins Now posted:It's not filez if you actually own a license/key. https://pastebin.com/CdskkiD9 Telebite posted:Is there an instructional about setting up / using private internet servers somewhere that isn't outdated? I believe if you use the 1.30.1 folder in the above pastebin, you can use this: https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135760#p524895 Annath fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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HonorableTB posted:LMAO there's a surefire way to tell where Undead and Night Elf players start without using any hacks. Jesus loving christ
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jokes posted:I really hate that the unit portraits don't have them goofily moving their head and mandible around. Hahaha, the best one was the old War3 Human Knight, his mouth basically detached at one side
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All the hero portraits in the campaign are also stupidly still. Their mouths/faces barely move while talking. They used to have a lot of head movement or crazy jaw movements while talking, and now they just stare forward and look like they're muttering. Still glad I haven't bought this game, as it's funner seeing the gently caress-ups secondhand.
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Annath posted:https://pastebin.com/CdskkiD9 Ironically the 'i totally have a license, no really' is the traditional loophole that a lot of filez stuff operated under for a long time. This is probably one of the few legitimate cases where people actually do have licenses and just want a non-bricked version of the product that they paid for.
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