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Djarum posted:So countdown for that being an obvious lie... I hope Rachel just spends the whole time up until the NH primary digging in to acronym and shadow because regardless of what happened it all just immediately smells really loving bad.
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cowofwar posted:Sure but these ballots aren't actual per caucuser records right? They're just tabulated counts of the first realignment and final count right? Nope, theres actual per caucuser records this time around.
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reignonyourparade posted:Declaring himself victor WAS the ratfucking. Eventually the actual results would come out, the only thing guaranteed to work was to delay the official results as much as possible and then try to make his declaration be the news story. I wouldn't be surprised if his campaign doesn't call him the REAL victor all throughout new Hampshire. The benefit of trying to control that early narrative is MASSIVELY outweighed by the negative optics of the situation though. Butterbar's critics hammer him on being a weaselly inexperienced little dork, and Sanders narrative for literal YEARS at this point is that weaselly candidates and the DNC are trying to screw him. This is a huge injection to BOTH narratives, Petey looks like a goddamn full-on company spook and Sanders can motivate his supporters even more ("see I told you they're trying to gently caress us, volunteer and donate today!") all while peeling voters away from candidates like Biden, Yang, Klob, etc who've proven they don't have a chance in hell at the prize. It's the worst of both worlds.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Great post. Yeah, the situation is pretty educational with a small state representing a microcosm of the larger american politics, so They have no need to fix the economic problems that the younger generations of Americans face because they benefit monetarily from the special interests that cause the problems. If they saddle the youth with more economic problems we will have no time to even consider voting because we have to take a second job to avoid being late on rent and medical bills.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:The benefit of trying to control that early narrative is MASSIVELY outweighed by the negative optics of the situation though. Butterbar's critics hammer him on being a weaselly inexperienced little dork, and Sanders narrative for literal YEARS at this point is that weaselly candidates and the DNC are trying to screw him. This is a huge injection to BOTH narratives, Petey looks like a goddamn full-on company spook and Sanders can motivate his supporters even more ("see I told you they're trying to gently caress us, volunteer and donate today!") all while peeling voters away from candidates who see that Biden, Yang, Klob, etc who've proven they don't have a chance in hell at the prize. It's the worst of both worlds. A centrist harebrained scheme coming back to bite them in the rear end, you say? Now where have I heard that one before?
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:The benefit of trying to control that early narrative is MASSIVELY outweighed by the negative optics of the situation though. Butterbar's critics hammer him on being a weaselly inexperienced little dork, and Sanders narrative for literal YEARS at this point is that weaselly candidates and the DNC are trying to screw him. This is a huge injection to BOTH narratives, Petey looks like a goddamn full-on company spook and Sanders can motivate his supporters even more ("see I told you they're trying to gently caress us, volunteer and donate today!") all while peeling voters away from candidates like Biden, Yang, Klob, etc who've proven they don't have a chance in hell at the prize. It's the worst of both worlds. None of the connections were initially out in the open though, we didn't get any information on who made the app until unnamed sources started telling people about it literally during this poo poo storm. Without that information it could be spun as CIA pete "just" jumping the gun on things. Pete more than anything NEEDS a iowa win and he's got nowhere higher to go in Indiana politics.
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Feb 4, 2020 09:09
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Craptacular! posted:Good luck finding any developer with no political preferences. Let me know when you find one. There's a difference between "having political preferences" and "being tied to a campaign through financial and marriage ties." 2016 was handled by Microsoft. Then they decided to drop Microsoft and go with a company of former Hillary campaign staff that never developed something like this and work out of a wework office, being funded by campaigns and invested in by former campaign staffers.
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Feb 4, 2020 09:11
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I'm pretty sure that there didn't seem to be any apparent need to rig the whole thing for Hillary last time around either back when they started doing it, but they still did. This time around the establishment realizes that Bernie can win, so they have actual incentive.
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Feb 4, 2020 09:13
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reignonyourparade posted:None of the connections were initially out in the open though, we didn't get any information on who made the app until unnamed sources started telling people about it literally during this poo poo storm. Without that information it could be spun as CIA pete "just" jumping the gun on things. Pete more than anything NEEDS a iowa win and he's got nowhere higher to go in Indiana politics. Which is why he should have kept his cards close and his mouth shut. Nobody had any clue how bad the fuckups were and 'plow ahead anyway drat the torpedoes' was an incredibly dumb move to make before the extent of the damage was understood.
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Feb 4, 2020 09:13
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Was there a central exit poll of some kind released by someone (is that a thing that's done in US)? Or is it just the various campaigns doing their own ones.
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joepinetree posted:There's a difference between "having political preferences" and "being tied to a campaign through financial and marriage ties." Sounds like efficient, lean, agile, disruptive goal-oriented Design Thinking to me tbh
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Can someone lay out the entire Pete ---> Shadow ---> PACRONYM ----> App ----> Neoliberal Grift receipts in a single long post? I am planning on amplifying this story in a couple of places in California tomorrow morning, but I want all the information to be laid out in one place instead of across 5 pages and 20 twitter posts in this thread and across the internet. Feel free to just post the tweets, and I can put it all together after that.
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Cerebral Bore posted:I'm pretty sure that there didn't seem to be any apparent need to rig the whole thing for Hillary last time around either back when they started doing it, but they still did. They are so so desperate to make that go away, and they continue to just gently caress up colossally.
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Turnout being the same as 2016 isn’t great for Bernie
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I admit I didn’t think a rigging attempt would be so brazen but at this point lol. I wonder why I don’t assume incompetence but always assume maliciousness and in this case it may be both. US Democracy needs fixing.
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Craptacular! posted:Good luck finding any developer with no political preferences. Let me know when you find one.  )But also joepinetree posted:There's a difference between "having political preferences" and "being tied to a campaign through financial and marriage ties." FRINGE fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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From 2019 "The campaign is run by Acronym, a dark money group, but here are some clues as to who’s funding it." https://readsludge.com/2019/11/06/whos-behind-dems-new-75-million-ad-campaign/
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Which is why he should have kept his cards close and his mouth shut. Nobody had any clue how bad the fuckups were and 'plow ahead anyway drat the torpedoes' was an incredibly dumb move to make before the extent of the damage was understood. If he keeps his mouth shut he doesn't necessarily win, his political career at ALL is basically do or die on this presidential campaign.
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So all these decisions are definitely being made by a board who are taking notes with transparency in mind and not just a couple of people winging it behind closed doors?
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shrike82 posted:Turnout being the same as 2016 isn’t great for Bernie Similar total numbers, but significantly younger.
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shrike82 posted:Turnout being the same as 2016 isn’t great for Bernie Yeah it is, it's fewer old people and more young people this time around.
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A Grand Egg posted:From 2019 Between Plouffe, all the Obama staffer connections and even the fuckin Dollar Shave Club, there is no way the PSA Jons aren't at least tangentially involved in all this
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A Grand Egg posted:From 2019 Keep in mind this is a company with volunteers on its board and its primary function is to issue a weekly newsletter. https://twitter.com/mattshuham/stat...r%3D104%23pti19
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reignonyourparade posted:If he keeps his mouth shut he doesn't necessarily win, his political career at ALL is basically do or die on this presidential campaign. If he wins the primary with help of apparent foul play he'll get slaughtered by Trump anyway, so Mayor Butt's little stunt has basically ensured that he'll never be President.
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Apocalypse posted:I'm glad you saw my message. Here are my responses. joepinetree posted:Yeah. The campaign that killed the last poll that had him third also has extensive ties to the app developer that hosed up the results this badly, and then, to compound the issue, it is the same campaign that comes out and flat out declares victory. Good post
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Anonymous Zebra posted:Can someone lay out the entire Pete ---> Shadow ---> PACRONYM ----> App ----> Neoliberal Grift receipts in a single long post? I am planning on amplifying this story in a couple of places in California tomorrow morning, but I want all the information to be laid out in one place instead of across 5 pages and 20 twitter posts in this thread and across the internet. Feel free to just post the tweets, and I can put it all together after that. Heres part of it Little Pete announced he won the election because an app was going to say so any minute. Petey fan Tara McGowan runs a company called "ACRONYM" https://mobile.twitter.com/taraemcg/status/1088071074468642818 https://www.anotheracronym.org/ "ACRONYM" hires "Shadow Inc" to make a new vote counting software that is not to be seen or tested until its already live. https://shadowinc.io/about/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/03/iowa-caucus-app-failed/ Petey helped pay for the app that was going to count his votes. https://mobile.twitter.com/lhfang/status/1224561674679488513 "The firm was paid by both Nevada & Iowa Democratic Party, disclosures show. Also by Mayor Pete's campaign." "Nevada Dem federal account paid Shadow $58k in August, Iowa Dems state account paid Shadow $63,183 in two payments over Nov & Dec, suggesting app wasn't developed until just months ago? Both caucus states. Shadow is a spin-off from PACRONYM, a new Dem dark money/superPAC hybrid. " "There's no evidence Robby Mook was involved in the development of this app. David Plouffe, however, is on the board of PACRONYM and has been on cable news talking about the Iowa caucus all evening. Worth a question for him. " https://www.huffpost.com/entry/iowa-caucus-app-shadow_n_5e390191c5b687dacc722824 "State campaign finance records indicate the Iowa Democratic Party paid Shadow, a tech company that joined with ACRONYM last year, more than $60,000 for “website development” over two installments in November and December of last year. A Democratic source with knowledge of the process said those payments were for the app that caucus site leaders were supposed to use to upload the results at their locales. Gerard Niemira, a veteran of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, is the head of Shadow. He previously served as chief technology officer and chief operating officer of ACRONYM, according to his LinkedIn page. In 2019, David Plouffe, one of the chief architects of President Barack Obama’s wins, joined the board of advisers for ACRONYM. " Peteys campaign has a direct family tie to the scammers in "Shadow Inc" who wrote the app https://mobile.twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1224566143043674112 "It's weird that you're posting things like this when the results aren't in yet, but whatever. Anyway, unrelated, do you have any comment on your campaign reportedly paying the firm that developed the app that caused the results to not be available yet?" "A little more context that might help you out, the firm that developed the app was formed the same month you announced your exploratory committee by a company whose CEO is married to one of your senior staff, Michael Halle. So I dunno maybe you could ask him about it, too." . . . Then theres the various Pete->Zuck->CIA->Intelligence->McKinsey stuff to tie it all off in a giant hosed up dystopian mess. Or as Queen Maryanne said: https://mobile.twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1224585636839141383 quote:America, something went wrong here tonight and it wasn’t just an app. If an app goes down, there are such things as telephones. Then a moderate candidate came out and made this weird victory speech, while MSM started talking about what a good night this was for Mike Bloomberg. FRINGE fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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Skyarb posted:I'm kind of out of the loop and this thread is moving fast, is there a good summary anywhere of what the gently caress is happening? I'll refer you to my previous post Apocalypse posted:The app that the Iowa Democratic State Party used to collate the results crashed spectacularly. Currently we only have results for less 2% of precincts, when we should be done with this by now. From reports that I've heard, the State Party might actually know the results right now, but Biden's lawyers are challenging them, so the Party is holding off on releasing them. The candidates might already know what happened. Bernie made a speech that *sounded* like a victory speech, but wasn't. Mayo Pete just put out a tweet saying that he won.
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ratbert90 posted:As I am in Europe I went to bed expecting Bernie to win. I woke up with a hearty LOL.
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Cerebral Bore posted:I'm pretty sure that there didn't seem to be any apparent need to rig the whole thing for Hillary last time around either back when they started doing it, but they still did. Is there a good article that goes into detail in all the ways that the DNC rigged for Clinton.
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Apocalypse posted:I'll refer you to my previous post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY
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Skyarb posted:I'm kind of out of the loop and this thread is moving fast, is there a good summary anywhere of what the gently caress is happening? Basically what went down was the app that was supposed to be be used during the IA and NV caucuses broke when people tried to send their precinct results. The backup solution the DNC were counting on also failed and a large number of calls to the Iowa Democrat headquarters caused the people reporting the results to be put on hold for hours. During that time every candidate sent out messages like "Keep moving forward" except for Mayor Pete who proclaimed he has numbers that say he won the caucus. Bernie released numbers of his own to counter that narrative. It then turns out the company that IA and NV contracted the app out to is run by someone that has marital ties to a high level Buttigeig staffer. That company's name is(I poo poo you not) Shadow, and it turns out the app wasn't even tested. Every campaign is angry about how much of a shitshow this whole process is and they are forcing people to hand count the results so they will have an anwser by the end of today hopefully.
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