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cargo cult posted:how popular is bernie in your country and europe at large? Not addressed to me but : Ireland - and very. Having my breakfast and checking work emails, while some very tired CNN people pray for death lmao Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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Skyarb posted:I'm kind of out of the loop and this thread is moving fast, is there a good summary anywhere of what the gently caress is happening? App supposed go tabulate the caucus completely doesn't work, iowa dems sold all their extra phone lines and basically has to call precinct chairs one at a time. Possibly other irregularities have them hand counting every single "ballot." This means everything is taking forever. In the mean time they are giving no information. Info about who exactly made the app is leaked. Pete declares victory based on "overperforming internal models." Bernie campaign says they'll release their own results, they've got a fairly robust app that was basically taking in every possible bit of information about every precinct they had a volunteer at, which is most of them. People notice serious connections between pete and the app makers, both personal and financial. Bernie releases his own numbers. Basically 30-25 between him and pete at 40% reported. Probably a LITTLE worse for him than that because the worst precincts for him are gonna be places he had no volunteer at and thus no data from.
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You couldn't make this poo poo up if you tried. By the way, this complete shitshow is international news. The biggest headline: "A great victory!... For Trump"
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TURGID TOMFOOLERY posted:Is there a good article that goes into detail in all the ways that the DNC rigged for Clinton. https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/demonrats
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Nice piece of fish posted:You couldn't make this poo poo up if you tried. Mr Trump's campaign gloated over the debacle. Trump 2020 manager Brad Parscale said in a statement: "Democrats are stewing in a caucus mess of their own creation with the sloppiest train wreck in history. "It would be natural for people to doubt the fairness of the process," he added. But Republicans have had their own problems in Iowa previously. In 2012, Mitt Romney was declared the winner of the caucuses only for the party to say two weeks later that Rick Santorum had actually won. The president's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr, tweeted that the Democratic results chaos was all a "fix". However, there was no indication that it had been caused by anything other than human or technical error.
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cargo cult posted:how popular is bernie in your country and europe at large? Bernie is the best politician the united states has ever had, my friend. I'm left of Bernie but if he ran for PM I would vote for him in a heartbeat. He's the only shot you have for scandinavian socialist utopian-ness.
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Yeah, I just listened to this episode and it's very worth a listen.
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Nonsense posted:Mr Trump's campaign gloated over the debacle. The DNC's new slogan: "No more of a colossal fuckup than Trump!"
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logger posted:It then turns out the company that IA and NV contracted the app out to is run by someone that has marital ties to a high level Buttigeig staffer. That company's name is(I poo poo you not) Shadow, and it turns out the app wasn't even tested You (and others) keep leaving out part of the punchline! "Shadow Inc" was hired by the Democratic group "ACRONYM". The wannabe intelligence operatives are a comical bunch.
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Feb 4, 2020 09:44
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cowofwar posted:Sure but these ballots aren't actual per caucuser records right? They're just tabulated counts of the first realignment and final count right? At my precinct each participant was given a "ballot" with boxes for your first choice and signature on the front, second choice or a box to check if you chose not to realign on the back. As long as I'm posting, the results from my precinct were: 70 participants, 2 observers (1 Bernie, 1 Unaffiliated) 6 delegates at stake Initial vote: Sanders-32 Warren-13 Buttigieg-9 Biden-5 Klobuchar-4 Yang-3 Gabbard-2 Steyer-1 Undecided-1 Realignment: Sanders-37/3 delegates Warren-18/2 Buttigieg-13/1 Steyer-1 Klobuchar-1 (this person was a paid employee of the Klobuchar campaign) There were complaints from volunteers about both the ballots and the app. An envelope was passed for the IDP. And one for the DNC. *Edited because I forgot the Klobuchar employee in realignment. GrizzlyAtoms fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Feb 5, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/BernieWon2016/status/1221975993927249920 Read the whole thread https://twitter.com/BernieWon2016/status/1221976343484735488
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Thanks for laying out the tweets for me guys. I actually went to start posting them in a couple of places and saw that some of my Asian-American friends who had their hearts set on Yang were already there connecting the dots and being very angry. This is the key for the next 7 days guys. Donate to Bernie, volunteer and phone bank for Bernie if you can. But also amplify the poo poo out of this story amongst your centrist friends. The key here is not that BERNIE was robbed, but to convince people that Warren was robbed, Klob was robbed, Biden was robbed. Make the centrists just as riled up as you feel right now. Force the media to start looking into the app and into Pete. This needs to hang on to his campaign, it needs to be something that is brought up over and over as he tries to get votes. We all need to do our part in making this a big story outside of Twitter.
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it's going to be 2016 forever huh. nothing is ever going to change, but it's also going to get worse somehow. what's H.A. Goodman up to these days, lets get the band back together. e: jesus christ he's gone off the deep end Fill Baptismal fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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Feb 4, 2020 09:58
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Kill Bristol posted:it's going to be 2016 forever huh. what's H.A. Goodman up to these days, lets get the band back together. I see you glanced at his twitter. I think he cracked on convention night.
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Feb 4, 2020 10:01
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Goons, are we doomed to re-live 2016 in yet more cartoonishly evil and blatant forms for the rest of our lives? Or am I just being a 1 AM Doomer who needs to sleep?
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Biscats n Gravy posted:Goons, are we doomed to re-live 2016 in yet more cartoonishly evil and blatant forms for the rest of our lives? Or am I just being a 1 AM Doomer who needs to sleep?
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Cerebral Bore posted:If he wins the primary with help of apparent foul play he'll get slaughtered by Trump anyway, so Mayor Butt's little stunt has basically ensured that he'll never be President. Why do you think CIA spook Pete's plan was to win the presidency, as opposed to sabotaging other candidates to ensure the establishment takes the win?
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Feb 4, 2020 10:06
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Nix Panicus posted:Why do you think CIA spook Pete's plan was to win the presidency, as opposed to sabotaging other candidates to ensure the establishment takes the win? Because he's an egomaniacal sociopath who has been talking about how he's going to be president from birth.
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the genuinely frustrating thing is that real and valid critiques like "the DNC's clubby clique of preferred contractors lead to this massive fuckup, and how deeply Pete is connected to them shows he deeply enmeshed he is with the establishment. despite his youthful facade, he is in no way a change candidate" are going to get tossed in the same bin as lunatic bullshit like "CIA PETE HACKED THE CAUCUS" in the popular discourse.
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Feb 4, 2020 10:10
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cargo cult posted:biden got blown out and Sanders is poised to win big in NH. his next fundraising haul is going to be monstrous. go to bed. Holy poo poo i'm going to listen to cargo cult. Please help.
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Feb 4, 2020 10:10
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Oh ye one last thing before heading off to bed. Someone was sitting on a reddit account named JoeBiden and posted this on the Chapo sub. They waited 11 years to do this. A much needed laugh after this stress. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/eyiv2i/looks_like_im_pulling_out_after_tonight_guys/
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So if I'm getting this right, the early leaks suggest that Bernie won, CIA Pete took a close second place, and Biden ate poo poo? Aside from DNC fuckery, isn't this the best case scenario? It seems like the centrists would have no-one to really coalesce around and would end up fighting over who takes Biden's place.
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Feb 4, 2020 10:12
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Nix Panicus posted:Why do you think CIA spook Pete's plan was to win the presidency, as opposed to sabotaging other candidates to ensure the establishment takes the win? Majorian posted:Because he's an egomaniacal sociopath who has been talking about how he's going to be president from birth. This and assuming it was one this also was the dumbest possible scheme to sabotage Bernie. Biden is dead. Butt is dead too due to being a cheater. So who does that leave? Warren? She's dead too on account of only appealing to PMC motherfuckers.
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Majorian posted:Because he's an egomaniacal sociopath who has been talking about how he's going to be president from birth. Is Buttigieg the Smiler from Transmetropolitan, by any chance?
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Guildencrantz posted:So if I'm getting this right, the early leaks suggest that Bernie won, CIA Pete took a close second place, and Biden ate poo poo? Aside from DNC fuckery, isn't this the best case scenario? It seems like the centrists would have no-one to really coalesce around and would end up fighting over who takes Biden's place. Its time for Bloomentum. Theyre going to make up for Bloomberg not being on the ballot in the early states by invalidating as many of them as possible and splitting the rest
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Guildencrantz posted:So if I'm getting this right, the early leaks suggest that Bernie won, CIA Pete took a close second place, and Biden ate poo poo? Aside from DNC fuckery, isn't this the best case scenario? It seems like the centrists would have no-one to really coalesce around and would end up fighting over who takes Biden's place. No, it's possible Bernie wins the "popular vote" and Butt gets more delegates.
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Majorian posted:Because he's an egomaniacal sociopath who has been talking about how he's going to be president from birth.
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Ague Proof posted:No, it's possible Bernie wins the "popular vote" and Butt gets more delegates. This. First alignment sanders, butt gets the delegates at the end. Media win for butt.
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Feb 4, 2020 10:20
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https://politics.theonion.com/dnc-mulls-asking-donald-trump-to-run-as-democrat-in-eff-1841432132quote:DNC Mulls Asking Donald Trump To Run As Democrat In Effort To Stop Sanders Barely parody. As usual.
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The knives are absolutely out for Butt from everyone now, though. Not a hard sell to Warren and Klob supporters that they're ratfucking the women for the white guy.
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Feb 4, 2020 10:25
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When I woke up a few hours ago I didn't expect it to be to this immense clusterfuck, holy poo poo.
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Feb 4, 2020 10:28
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cargo cult posted:how popular is bernie in your country and europe at large? I am in Belgium surrounded by: 2 Brits 5 French 3 Italians 1 Belgium Consensus: Bernie is loved, and they want him elected. They are worried he won't be. Also they were all upset that AOC is too young for president.
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ratbert90 posted:I am in Belgium surrounded by: So they are us and we are them.
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I don't really see the endgame here. It does seem incredibly suspicious, but Pete being the obvious target and having virtually nowhere to go but down makes this move seem incredibly short-sighted. Everyone knows he went all-in on Iowa and has very little elsewhere, and his polling among non-Whitey McCrackerhams is in the sub-basement of poo poo Inc. Surely the establishment knows that. So why ratfuck in his favor just here? It isn't going to slow Bernie down all that much unless they keep doing it, and their next great hope is Bloomberg since Biden flamed out. Are they actually going to try for a brokered convention? That's the most suicidally stupid thing I can imagine, but ... what else are they aiming for? Or is Shadow Inc. funded by the republicans to make the D's look incompetent to lower turn out, and Petey boy just jumped on it because he's a hubristic little fuckstain? ... that's probably crazy. It sounds crazy. "Dems bad" is just such an unsatisfying line. I don't know why we made it the chorus to this song that never ends.
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cargo cult posted:how popular is bernie in your country and europe at large? Speaking from the northern Netherlands here: Bernie is pretty drat popular on both sides of the political spectrum.
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I knew I shouldn't get my hopes up. At least this is interesting if not infuriating. Buttigieg sucks and polling showed him in a pretty distant place. How did this happen? So it looks like Bloomberg the W Bush, Iraq war endorsing republican is their hope now. FML ManBoyChef fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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ManBoyChef posted:I knew I shouldn't get my hopes up. At least this is interesting if not infuriating. Buttigieg sucks and polling showed him in a pretty distant place. How did this happen? White people.
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CubanMissile posted:White people. Incidentally the reason that Iowa and New Hampshire are allowed to always go first, no doubt.
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ManBoyChef posted:I knew I shouldn't get my hopes up. At least this is interesting if not infuriating. Buttigieg sucks and polling showed him in a pretty distant place. How did this happen? Buttigieg isn't leading anywhere, he just claimed victory with 2% of the results showing him in third behind Sanders and Warren.
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cargo cult posted:this is corny but im honestly so moved by the muslim community turning out for sanders in a big way I'm extremely proud of my community. It reminded me of last year's ISNA convention, where only Sanders and Castro showed up, and Sanders speech filled the venue to capacity. More like the iA caucus, indeed.
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