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Day Man posted:This is heart-wrenchingly awful: They need to just give people the HIV drugs, even if they don't have a confirmatory test
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Feb 4, 2020 06:30
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Ruggan posted:I feel like it's just a matter of time before it spreads in the US and that terrifies me. I'm especially scared for my 2 year old who has had some abnormally rough colds and has already gotten walking pneumonia once. if we're lucky, the travel ban might've prevented a large portion of any spillover, but we just have to wait and see for now
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Feb 4, 2020 06:37
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RIP Thailand https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1224568719831113728 RIP Maccau https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1224563762679644161
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Feb 4, 2020 06:50
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some people just don't like high stakes gambling
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Feb 4, 2020 06:54
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Golli posted:It boggles the mind to believe someone could marinate in that environment for so long and NOT get infected, even with masks, gloves and shields. Viruses don’t necessarily effect everyone. Immune systems are complicated. it’s possible that chance dictates a virus is caught early and eliminated. It’s also true that some people have stronger immune systems. Antibodies aren’t the only way to kill a virus, just a very effective method. It’s conceivable for some of these uninfected people, their immune systems were healthy, they got lucky, and now they probably have antibodies. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8423/ mitztronic fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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Feb 4, 2020 06:56
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Day Man posted:This is heart-wrenchingly awful: Good read on the possible realities in the epicenter and the barriers to an effective response to the 2019-nCoV.
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Feb 4, 2020 07:26
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Illuminti posted:That has been precisely my point. I've not been the one claiming it's far worse than it is and highly likely to cause mass death. As I said earlier in the thread, it's not 1918 anymore and it's highly unlikely that any virus emerging in the modern era could achieve even a 10th of what the Spanish Flu did. And this one certainly doesn't seem likely to. It's probably not going to do Spanish Flu numbers worldwide, but in China? Yeah, it probably will. Lack of modern facilities, widespread paranoia and large-scale disruption of normal systems are all working together. There's already signs of encroaching famine, and yeah it's not 1918 which means people are much more dependent on those facilities and in much closer contact. China has bungled this to such a degree that it's already obvious this is going to hurt them for decades moving forward.
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Feb 4, 2020 07:54
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LostRook posted:China has bungled this to such a degree that it's already obvious this is going to hurt them for decades moving forward. I don't think it's especially clear that they could have done any better.
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Feb 4, 2020 08:13
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Bip Roberts posted:some people just don't like high stakes gambling This doesn't get any more high stakes
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Feb 4, 2020 08:21
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Bip Roberts posted:I don't think it's especially clear that they could have done any better. After sars, they put into place measures and plans that would provide an immediate and effective response in the event that something similar emerged. If they'd actually put those plans into action instead of attempting to cover things up for the first month or so then they absolutely would have done better. -- If you're suggesting that they would be politically unable to have a better response then yeah, you might be right.
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Feb 4, 2020 09:20
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Whoever is in the hotel room next to me was up all night coughing something fierce. 
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Feb 4, 2020 10:56
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Rozzbot posted:Whoever is in the hotel room next to me was up all night coughing something fierce. It was just me, rippin on the bong 
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Feb 4, 2020 10:59
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My Chinese coworker emailed us today to let us know he won’t be allowed back to the us for at least 21 days. He went home for New Years and is just kinda stuck there now.
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Feb 4, 2020 11:14
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Biohazard posted:My Chinese coworker emailed us today to let us know he won’t be allowed back to the us for at least 21 days. He went home for New Years and is just kinda stuck there now. free vacation woooooooooo!!!!!
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Feb 4, 2020 11:16
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Middle aged lady on the tram this morning coughing up a lung but not covering her mouth. Just spreading her germs all over the loving place like it wasn’t a big deal. Not saying she had the Coronavirus but if you’re going to behave like that you’re utter scum
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Feb 4, 2020 11:17
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did you call her out or just seethe in silence
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Feb 4, 2020 11:41
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Biohazard posted:My Chinese coworker emailed us today to let us know he won’t be allowed back to the us for at least 21 days. He went home for New Years and is just kinda stuck there now. Same thing just happened at my work. I'm wondering if I'll ever see him again.
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Feb 4, 2020 11:54
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China mitigating their relative losses by shipping infected people to other continents when
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Feb 4, 2020 12:05
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Illuminti posted:That has been precisely my point. I've not been the one claiming it's far worse than it is and highly likely to cause mass death. As I said earlier in the thread, it's not 1918 anymore and it's highly unlikely that any virus emerging in the modern era could achieve even a 10th of what the Spanish Flu did. And this one certainly doesn't seem likely to. Ah, I apologize for being so combative, then.
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Bip Roberts posted:I don't think it's especially clear that they could have done any better. China did everything it could, like allowing the disease to spread around entire December and beginning of January and arresting doctors who tried to warn people. Not to mention trying to beat Guiness record for the most people gathering around and eating from the same plates near ground zero, mmm nothing to see here.
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Feb 4, 2020 13:31
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It was not clear in the beginning that the virus can transmit human-to-human. The first reported patient from dec 1 had no human-to-human transmission. The official verification of human-to-human ability was that one patient spread to 14 doctors and nurses. You can argue Wuhan should have diagnose sooner but it would be an academic discussion.
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Feb 4, 2020 13:38
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is there *any* virus that is strictly nonhuman-to-human?
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Feb 4, 2020 13:43
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Who are BNO News anyway and how reputable are they?
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Feb 4, 2020 13:51
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:is there *any* virus that is strictly nonhuman-to-human? Maybe rabies effectively is.
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Feb 4, 2020 13:51
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Chrs posted:Who are BNO News anyway and how reputable are they? CCP: "Really is anyone reputable"?
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Bip Roberts posted:some people just don't like high stakes gambling Casinos don't like gambling. That's for the customers.
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Feb 4, 2020 14:01
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:is there *any* virus that is strictly nonhuman-to-human? A good number, exotic stuff like Rift valley fever all the way through to various types of swine and avian flu.
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Feb 4, 2020 14:31
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Sten Freak posted:I'm reading they're suspecting fecal-oral transmission. Fecal matter aerosolizes when you flush the toilet. Close the lid before you flush and be sure to wash your hands.
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Feb 4, 2020 14:42
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I haven't read the whole thread but has this been posted ? https://twitter.com/SenTomCotton/status/1222962874932453377?s=20 I have seen some interesting info regarding the fact there is (coincidence) a biosafety level 4 laboratory in Wuhan studying -among others- (coincidence) coronavirii. More info from some dubious sources even trace the origin of the virus to a 2012 strain discovered in Saudi Arabia and studied in Canada that wasn't contagious, but the study of the new strain shows it's clearly different and highly contagious. It's easy to imagine the Chinese have been playing with virii as bio weapon and probably other countries do so too. Is it outlandish to imagine this strain is actually something designed, and that it was released accidentally from the BSL4 lab in Wuhan? sorry if this was discussed before.
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They don't usually try to make viruses less deadly in military bioweapon labs Also there's a lot more bats than bioweapon labs Our best method for getting random rear end poo poo as opposed to specific genes in microbes is still radiation and waiting. The natural world has plenty of (solar) radiation and is way better at waiting
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Feb 4, 2020 15:08
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the CIA sabotaged the chinese bioweapons lab and released the virus
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Feb 4, 2020 15:13
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no the virus was not engineered
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Feb 4, 2020 15:18
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:I haven't read the whole thread but has this been posted ? If you really want to get your conspiracy jimmies in a bunch, an accused Chinese spy was escorted from that Winnipeg facility studying the coronavirus last summer after being found out. https://twitter.com/CBCNews/status/1222316940682842118
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How do you actually figure out who patient zero was? The whole science of this is properly fascinating.
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Feb 4, 2020 15:19
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Nah I meant more because of claims that it doesn't have to do with the fish market and they obfuscated the real source/timeline.
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Hopper posted:Ist Tom Cotton a reliable source or is this just commie-bashing tinfoilery? Tom Cotton is a republican senator from Arkansas, so no he is not at all trustworthy and is a moron.
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OK maybe not engineered, but could the lab be the source of it? That would be very damaging for China's image so it's normal they would cover it up
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