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Rashaverak posted:I encountered way, way too many people who simply thought that disasters were things that only happened to other people until they found themselves in the middle of one and completely unprepared. Granted, the worst I saw was during Katrina, so I'd like to hope that people have wizened up in the last 15 years - but even in the smaller disaster responses I participated in later I still saw ostensibly intelligent, well-off and educated people who didn't have basic necessities for longer than a few days... and far too many families that were living paycheck to paycheck and couldn't even guarantee their kids food and medicine for a day, much less a week. It doesn't even have to be a natural disaster/catastrophic event, remember a few years ago when Atlanta got less then 2" of snow, but it was icy mix and GADOT didn't send out the ice trucks until after it was started and the whole city was functionally shut down for 48 hours? *Nobody* in the Atlanta area was prepared for that, kids were stranded at schools (including special needs kids) with inadequate food supplies (since cafeteria staff left after their end of day/before the poo poo hit the fan and nobody left knew WTF to do with industrial kitchen equipment), people couldn't get to hospitals, power lines downed by ice and accidents couldn't get fixed because trucks couldn't dispatch, and so on all because of an error in judgement as far as when to salt the loving roads and deciding to no close schools early. A disaster entirely of the state's own making and while Georgia certainly learned it's lesson you can drat well bet other states will make similarly boneheaded moves around other minor/handle-able issues. If you're not always a little bit prepared for fuckery it's hard to prepare for someone else's bad decisions at the last minute.
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13Pandora13 posted:It doesn't even have to be a natural disaster/catastrophic event, remember a few years ago when Atlanta got less then 2" of snow, but it was icy mix and GADOT didn't send out the ice trucks until after it was started and the whole city was functionally shut down for 48 hours? *Nobody* in the Atlanta area was prepared for that, kids were stranded at schools (including special needs kids) with inadequate food supplies (since cafeteria staff left after their end of day/before the poo poo hit the fan and nobody left knew WTF to do with industrial kitchen equipment), people couldn't get to hospitals, power lines downed by ice and accidents couldn't get fixed because trucks couldn't dispatch, and so on all because of an error in judgement as far as when to salt the loving roads and deciding to no close schools early. A disaster entirely of the state's own making and while Georgia certainly learned it's lesson you can drat well bet other states will make similarly boneheaded moves around other minor/handle-able issues. If you're not always a little bit prepared for fuckery it's hard to prepare for someone else's bad decisions at the last minute. That kind of thing can happen anywhere- I live in NY, and we’re equipped for bad winter weather. thanksgiving 2018 we got a snowstorm that was worse than expected. The plow trucks didn’t get out until it started, and it came on so quick that by the time that happened they were blocked off by car accidents and people were stuck in cars for 4-12 hours on roads and highways. The problem, which is applicable to the Wuhan Flu, is that even if you have enough poo poo to handle a disaster and plans to deal with it, is the disaster itself can stop you from getting to use either.
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13Pandora13 posted:It doesn't even have to be a natural disaster/catastrophic event, remember a few years ago when Atlanta got less then 2" of snow, but it was icy mix and GADOT didn't send out the ice trucks until after it was started and the whole city was functionally shut down for 48 hours?
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My boss said China is getting worse. The province we do business with is keeping people home till next Monday. He heard a rumor Shanghai might get quarantined soon.
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Don't those cruises have open buffet 24/7? Yummy.
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Is it just me or have they completly removed Wuhan cases from the map? everyone dead? https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
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Wuhan is in Hubei province "13,522 confirmed; 414 deaths Hubei Mainland China"
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doctorfrog posted:Wuhan is in Hubei province 414/13,522 = 3% That's a pretty high death rate, is it not? They seemed to be saying it was closer to 1.5% earlier.
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Im Ready for DEATH posted:My boss said China is getting worse. The province we do business with is keeping people home till next Monday. He heard a rumor Shanghai might get quarantined soon. I spoke to a VP of operations of an equipment manufacturing company earlier today that has off-shored their production facilities to some Chinese provinces. Those are not under quarantine but still new rules apply, like no circulation of vehicles with plates from other provinces. So everyone is doing their part to limit the movement of ppl, goods and the virus.
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doctorfrog posted:Wuhan is in Hubei province But the giuant red dot is gone!!!
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LabyaMynora posted:414/13,522 = 3% Yes, it is. I think it's part of "we don't know," as in, "we know it was poorly managed there, but we don't know what it will be like when we poorly mismanage our own outbreaks, but for now, let's just pay attention to how this is affecting business."
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LabyaMynora posted:414/13,522 = 3% It's missing a lot of numbers, both in young men who got light sympton and never went to the hospital, people who died under "other pneumonia" causes and people who are sick but tested negative with the coronavirus. The test kit is not very arrurate. I heard you have to test 3-4 times to confirm a positive. I have also heard test twice, so don't quote me on it.
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mike12345 posted:Don't those cruises have open buffet 24/7? Yummy. The food ain't half bad either!
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stephenthinkpad posted:It's missing a lot of numbers, both in young men who got light sympton and never went to the hospital, people who died under "other pneumonia" causes and people who are sick but tested negative with the coronavirus. The test kit is not very arrurate. I heard you have to test 3-4 times to confirm a positive. I have also heard test twice, so don't quote me on it. Yeah the specifics are nebulous, and almost certainly optimistic in their presentation. All I really know is that an awful lot of big brain doctors seem awful worried about it. What has me puzzled is a lot of people I know irl who are onboard that we need to take action on climate change NOW, look at this situation with the evidence and trendlines and conclude “Meh, it’s no big deal. More people die from seasonal flu.”
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One thing I'm taking a small amount of heart from is the "recovered" number keeps going up. For a good long time it lagged behind deaths. Of course, it's going to go up, and slowly, but I'm glad anyway.
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hallelujah posted:what happened to that italian cruise ship that got put on coronavirus lockdown? Disembarked after suspected case tested negative https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-china-51314138
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Golli posted:All I really know is that an awful lot of big brain doctors seem awful worried about it. tbf one of the downsides of being big-brained is worrying about everything incessently as an idiot myself I strongly recommend being stupid but happy
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hallelujah posted:what happened to that italian cruise ship that got put on coronavirus lockdown? It was just a case of the shittle
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Starks posted:Burt don’t go gently caress
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Fojar38 posted:tbf one of the downsides of being big-brained is worrying about everything incessently Ah, the burden of my big brain genius mind.
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Illuminti posted:But the giuant red dot is gone!!! The giant red dot over hubei is back. The last survivor must've managed to get one final email out.
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Golli posted:Disembarked after suspected case tested negative Chinese tourists everywhere: Hey there's no line!
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Burt Sexual posted:gently caress Everyone is quarantined for at least 14 days on that ship. Imagine knowing that there's a new pandemic that is absolutely on the cruise ship you're vacationing on, and the government is keeping you there with the infected in order to protect the rest of the world. Have fun being sacrificed.
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fdjkbnadjnbkjldaf posted:Everyone is quarantined for at least 14 days on that ship. Imagine knowing that there's a new pandemic that is absolutely on the cruise ship you're vacationing on, and the government is keeping you there with the infected in order to protect the rest of the world. Have fun being sacrificed. 
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LabyaMynora posted:414/13,522 = 3% Yes it is high, and 3% is approximately what that ratio was for the last week But consider this: there are multiple days between when a person becomes confirmed infected and when they die. So if you want the likelihood of someone dying from infection, the correct number to put in the denominator was from sometime last week. That percentage is a lot bigger On the flip side, shitloads of people aren't even being tested so none of the numbers can have much accuracy
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That's 10 / 30 processed tests https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20200205/p2g/00m/0na/024000c There's over 200 other people that were tested. Those tests aren't all back yet. 30% of the people tested had positive results Can't imagine being stuck on a cruise ship like that for quarantine. That's such a bad place to be
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QuarkJets posted:Yes it is high, and 3% is approximately what that ratio was for the last week Most people in Wuhan are just dying in their homes at this point. We won't have an accurate death count for years, if ever. Given the mandated "cremate upon death" they've got going on I'm guessing never.
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Cruise ships are cesspools of filth and disease at the best of times. There's no way a good percentage of those onboard don't get infected.
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Rat posted:That's 10 / 30 processed tests I’m second guessing my super expensive trip rn
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Burt Sexual posted:I’m second guessing my super expensive trip rn Stay safe Burt
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LostRook posted:Most people in Wuhan are just dying in their homes at this point. We won't have an accurate death count for years, if ever. If there really are a ton of people dying at home that get cremated we'll know because it is already known how many people die in a given community in an average year. If City X reports only a thousand coronavirus deaths, but had twenty thousand die in 2020 instead of the normal ten thousand, we can be pretty sure that those extra nine thousand are due to the virus.
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Burt Sexual posted:I’m second guessing my super expensive trip rn My parents took me and my sister on a cruise when I was in my mid twenties. It was pretty awesome.
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