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SlowBloke posted:Hmm i have mixed feelings about this, i feel that this is 50% racist bullshit(Hard physical borders will just slow down, not stop migrants) and 50% reaction to Turkey doing fuckery with their sea borders(which might startle Greece). I will go with 100% racist bullshit
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It's both. The continent going full eco fash was so obvious even in 2014 I'm kinda amazed Spain haven't erected a flamming wall in the Gibraltar straight yet.
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Antifa Poltergeist posted:It's both. We are going just normal fash
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Andrast posted:We are going just normal fash Nonsense, whats fash about teaching your kids that gay people don’t exist?
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Fat Samurai posted:Nonsense, whats fash about teaching your kids that gay people don’t exist? Murcia is different.
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Posting on the last day I can as a member rather than outside observer. Sorry to all peoples everywhere for this shitshow and terrible governance on all sides which will only cause hardship to increase.
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Don't be sorry bro. The bad governance was far from a British-only thing. And you guys are going to provide plenty of viewing material, so the rest of us will know exactly what's coming.
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Dawncloack posted:Don't be sorry bro. The bad governance was far from a British-only thing. And you guys are going to provide plenty of viewing material, so the rest of us will know exactly what's coming. Oh yeah 'all sides' was referring to the EU as well. If the left had been comfortable to defend the EUs external border policy and economic strategies as even vaguely responsible then Remain would have won.
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namesake posted:Posting on the last day I can as a member rather than outside observer. it's not your fault.
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Junior G-man posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/30/greece-plans-to-build-sea-barrier-off-lesbos-to-deter-migrants They have some mighty skillful engineers if they can build a 13-15 km long fence in the open waters, that's floating, 50m tall, has lights, and actually functions as a barrier... for only 500.000€.
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Doctor Malaver posted:They have some mighty skillful engineers if they can build a 13-15 km long fence in the open waters, that's floating, 50m tall, has lights, and actually functions as a barrier... for only 500.000€. It's actually the other way around, 50 m long,15 km deep. It will somehow cost 50 million.
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They're going to throw some festival crowd control barriers into the water and leave them floating there, and the Greek government will end up paying a local contractor whos cousin is a government minister the 500k. Its Greece.
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Blut posted:They're going to throw some festival crowd control barriers into the water and leave them floating there, and the Greek government will end up paying a local contractor whos cousin is a government minister the 500k. Its Greece. Capitalism is a cancer and it's infected democracy. I mean I understand that politics has mostly been a way for people to get rich on the backs of the citizenry, but I think this is the first time in history that media, politics and the rich have been intertwined on such a massive and complete scale that dissenting voices have been effectively silenced.
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An insane mind posted:Capitalism is a cancer and it's infected democracy. I mean I understand that politics has mostly been a way for people to get rich on the backs of the citizenry, but I think this is the first time in history that media, politics and the rich have been intertwined on such a massive and complete scale that dissenting voices have been effectively silenced. Feudalism?
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An insane mind posted:I think this is the first time in history that media, politics and the rich have been intertwined on such a massive and complete scale that dissenting voices have been effectively silenced. actually An insane mind posted:I think this is the first time in history that 
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Ok yeah, it's probably not the first time. It's still poo poo as gently caress.
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So I don't think this is the right thread, I didn't see a Poland thread going back a few pages. There's an artist I wanted to commission art from I encountered on reddit (I've done this routinely) but this is the first time someone has claimed they needed a hand written signature on a physical contract that also needs of course to be mailed to them. They claimed that electronic signatures are "not respected" in Poland. I googled and apparently since 2001 Electric Signatures have been valid; is it possible they don't realize this is the case, or is there some weird law regarding freelancers that requires hand written signatures? Is there some tax evasion law in effect that won't recognize esigs?
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Raenir Salazar posted:So I don't think this is the right thread, I didn't see a Poland thread going back a few pages. Maybe valid electronic signatures for tax purposes require additional steps and/or have specific certification requirements which make it easier to just require manual signatures.
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Over 250 since Belgium had their federal election, we're still nowhere close to having a government. Prominent politicians are starting to say we should prepare for a new election if we still don't have progress in another 100 days. If that happens, don't be surprised to see the far right make big gains and they plus the nationalists having enough votes to possibly declare Flemish independence.
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The fact that the main home of the EU parliament doesn't have a functioning government is one of the funniest bits of Europe's myriad dysfunctions.
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The fact that the EU parliament has more than one home is another.
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Oh that? It's my summer parliament.
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My Summer Parliament in the vein of My Summer Car.
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Tesseraction posted:The fact that the main home of the EU parliament doesn't have a functioning government is one of the funniest bits of Europe's myriad dysfunctions. It has a government, in fact it has lots of governments!
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Tesseraction posted:The fact that the main home of the EU parliament doesn't have a functioning government is one of the funniest bits of Europe's myriad dysfunctions. We've got a functioning minority government of which a bunch of ministers have resigned to take on other positions, such as our prime minister becoming the European president. Well it's functioning in so far as they keep the lights on. They've been the minority since the N-VA left/got pushed out in December 2018. We've also got a Flemish, Brussels and Walloon government that are all in varying stages of functioning, because depending on how the federal formation will eventually pan out some parties may leave/be kicked out of those. We're a very democratic nation, a significant percentage of the population is politician.
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lol @ having a judge officially rule that you are, in point of fact, a fascist though. Even bigger lol that this does not mean immediate transfer from office to wall with lead filling forthwith.
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Ah, what's a little enabling Nazis between friends?
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Die Linke 'congratulating' the fash-in-charge. https://twitter.com/UlrichSchneider/status/1225142079317315584?s=20
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this is increasingly a pattern, in multiparty systems, where the old liberal right can't govern without more populist, xenophobic segments who are able to tap into some voter groups much better than they can themselves. this means that the only route to power is through the populists, and that again means that they're going to hold their noses and do what they must to get and retain that support. merkel has escaped this at the federal level by the SPD being willing to commit suicide, but everywhere else the liberal right is relying on fascists and fellow travellers to prop them up. at least it's not a two-party system where the right-wing parties keep getting taken over outright by those elements
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V. Illych L. posted:at least it's not a two-party system where the right-wing parties keep getting taken over outright by those elements 
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V. Illych L. posted:this is increasingly a pattern, in multiparty systems, where the old liberal right can't govern without more populist, xenophobic segments who are able to tap into some voter groups much better than they can themselves. this means that the only route to power is through the populists, and that again means that they're going to hold their noses and do what they must to get and retain that support. merkel has escaped this at the federal level by the SPD being willing to commit suicide, but everywhere else the liberal right is relying on fascists and fellow travellers to prop them up. If the Italian pattern is of any example the hardliners tend to swallow the liberal right outright.
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mortons stork posted:If the Italian pattern is of any example the hardliners tend to swallow the liberal right outright. Yeah that's the eventual fate of all these idiots who think they can give the fash just a finger.
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this is the other side of that equation - how is the left going to respond against the new liberal-populist right-wing axis? especially the centre-left has been treading water for a decade, completely discredited by 2008 in the way we were all hoping was going to happen to the right. the danish social democrats have decided to go for outright nativism, to just not contest that ground in order to finally be able to talk about something else, because that really was a contradiction in centre-left policy - the national compromises of the post-war period were useful at the time, but now that the nation-state is rapidly weakening in the face of globalisation the shittier side of it emerges. this, imo, is why corbyn was both so encouraging and his eventual defeat so horrifying, because he was able to point to an alternative path which might've been viable - a progressive planned-economy resurgence with a strong internationalist outlook and a model for europe's embattled social democrats to follow and then loving brexit happened
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