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GOP cannibalizing itself is good. Also the next round of illegal poo poo that Trump will do to try to abuse his office to destroy romney will drive home the abuse of power stuff
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sexpig by night posted:the people who need loving healthcare and want to see people not getting blown up for being in the wrong part of desert, you ghoul. & a good number of bills that would do something about those issues are gathering dust on Majority Leader McConnell's desk that would be going up for a vote from Majority Leader Schumer's, should the Senate flip. Framboise posted:I don't mean to sound all "nothing matters" because it's not my intent, but what long run impact are a few GOP conviction votes going to have? It needs a 2/3 majority to happen, right? p much everything at this point is to increase D voter turnout and/or decrease R voter turnout. Being able to push that even some Rs are done with Trump and think he broke a law and should be removed does both.
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BigglesSWE posted:I think Romney was probably the last person that Team Trump wanted to break ranks. He's popular in his state, is probably one of the more well known senators in general, and him folding like this just makes every chuddy senator that was "on the fence" look utterly stupid. Won't change the end result of the votes, true, but I think we should take any victory we can at this point. i think the last person team trump wanted to break ranks was probably mitch, actually  but yeah romney's worse for him than collins or any other vulnerable senator who could have been dismissed as pandering to their state for re-election, because all you can do is claim the republican presidential nominee for 2012 was a secret democrat
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sexpig by night posted:ok even by Manchin standards if he buckles when Jones and Sinema stand strong he'd look pathetic. I think we may actually have a unified front https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1225160507780423687?s=19 Edit: beaten, but hoo boy is Donny gonna be pissed.
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oldskool posted:& a good number of bills that would do something about those issues are gathering dust on Majority Leader McConnell's desk that would be going up for a vote from Majority Leader Schumer's, should the Senate flip. quote:Once a Congress adjourns, however, at the end of its two-year cycle, all bills that have been introduced in either the House or the Senate that have not made it through the entire legislative process and signed into law are dead.
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wow how courageous. I'm super inspired
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If nothing else, this tweet alone justifies the entire impeachment process. It may even justify Twitter.
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Glad to see it. I count myself among the pleasantly surprised about Sinema. I find her Yes more shocking than Romney's in some ways.
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The best possible outcome without witnesses looks like it's within reach.
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Mummy Xzibit posted:The best possible outcome without witnesses looks like it's within reach. Dems did the best they reasonably could given the outcome was predetermined, with a bonus Mitch backstab that noone could've really predicted.
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Feb 5, 2020 21:57
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Bipartisan vote to convict. There goes Trump’s perfect week.
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This is a victory for Schumer. He loving sucks and he's awful at his job but he should be given a lot of credit for holding the caucus together.
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NICE. eat poo poo donney. next illegal action is gonna be him trying to gently caress Romney.
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TyrantWD posted:Bipartisan vote to convict. There goes Trump’s perfect week. This is the best we could have reasonably hoped for: bipartisan support for conviction plus Republicans eating themselves.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:NICE. eat poo poo donney. next illegal action is gonna be him trying to gently caress Romney. He'll scream at McConnell to hold a vote to expel him from the Senate.
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Oracle posted:He'll scream at McConnell to hold a vote to expel him from the Senate. I see a tax audit in Romney's future.
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Oracle posted:That's not how it works. Bills die after the current 'class' is done and it has to start all over again. This is true, but with a Democratic House there's nothing stopping them from starting over & getting those bills right back into the Senate.
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Oracle posted:That's not how it works. Bills die after the current 'class' is done and it has to start all over again. yeah but given that the house rules are whatever the speaker says they are, effectively, getting those back to the senate would not be an arduous task
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https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1225162739422724097 this went exactly opposite how they thought just hours ago
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oldskool posted:This is true, but with a Democratic House there's nothing stopping them from starting over & getting those bills right back into the Senate. I have zero doubt that they will pass everything all over again right away. The more they get passed and the longer Mitch ignores them it will be yet another cudgel to bash the GOP with. I have a feeling Mitch is going to get shellaced in the Fall and it will have a not insignificant part to do with it.
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I’m genuinely surprised, I guess he’s not running for Governor then.
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1225162739422724097 its worth pointing out that, like Romney, Manchin is as far away from an election as it is possible to be in the senate
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drat https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1225134163810045965?s=19
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evilweasel posted:its worth pointing out that, like Romney, Manchin is as far away from an election as it is possible to be in the senate they obviously thought they had him to acquit on at least one article though between that and Romney doing successfully-embargoed interviews about this, there was clearly a lot of last-minute movement
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Turned out pretty good then. Too bad we couldn’t get that Bolton testimony but it will all come out in the book anyway. House should still subpoena him as an oversight matter too.
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Lol Romney did an embargoed interview with the Atlantic a week ago explaining why he was voting to convict. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/romney-impeach-trump/606127/
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yronic heroism posted:Turned out pretty good then. Too bad we couldn’t get that Bolton testimony but it will all come out in the book anyway. House should still subpoena him as an oversight matter too. i believe they have already announced they're going to do that
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Assuming these votes hold, this is about as good as I could have hoped short of Collins and Gardner voting convict. If those two hang in November then I’ll be happy.
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mcmagic posted:This is a victory for Schumer. He loving sucks and he's awful at his job but he should be given a lot of credit for holding the caucus together. I've been saving this specifically for you mcmagic posted:You're going to clearly see how useless and weak Chuck Schumer is by how many D's vote to acquit.. But you admitted you were wrong and I can respect that. Takes a lot more honesty than people who make predictions as if they're already done and then disappear when they're wrong.
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I've lost track, is there a simple majority for conviction?
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haveblue posted:I've lost track, is there a simple majority for conviction? 2/3rds, 67 votes.
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haveblue posted:I've lost track, is there a simple majority for conviction? 2/3s to convict. And here we go.
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haveblue posted:I've lost track, is there a simple majority for conviction? conviction requires a 2/3s majority
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Well, glad to see I was wrong about Manchin and sinema. Happy to see Romney come to his senses for once, whatever reasoning he may have to do it.
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it's really striking how many randos there are in the senate you never hear from, on both sides. like 30 senators monopolize all the media time, and 70 people just sit around and vote party line on everything. must be a nice fuckin cushy job
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Jaxyon posted:I've been saving this specifically for you I'm happy to be wrong.
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you can call him 'Mr Cray-po' all you want but the man's name is Senator Crapo
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Collins officially has Not Guilty on the record.
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