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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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pentyne posted:

I guess book three would take longer if he was writing it one-handed.

I loathe ambidextrous assholes.

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Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Evil Fluffy posted:

It's like Tommy Boy only instead of being a goofy lovable idiot who sells brake pads he's a a lucky hack who convinced a bunch of idiots that his garbage novel is good

My favorite part is how he convinced the publisher to publish it by selling it as "fully completed trilogy and just needs editting" and they apparently took him at his word sight unseen (presumably because he's buddies with high muckity mucks) so there'd be no need for a seven year wait between books and then oops it turns out that he lied and only part of it was complete so he dropped in a bunch of other short stories with minimal editting and called the first book good.

He pretty much did the same with the second book too.

Captain Hotbutt
Aug 18, 2014
Rothfarts blog brings the heat.

quote:

Brandon Starkerson
Posted January 25, 2020 at 1:06 PM

20 comments. Wow. There used to be literally HUNDREDS of comments immediately after any of his blog posts. You know, a DECADE AGO…

The dream is dead. It appears that folks have finally realized that Pat has retired a wealthy man. We got two cool books, and THIS is how the story ends. Not with a bang, but with nothing at all. Not even a whimper. :(

quote:

scott lynchester
Posted January 26, 2020 at 10:34 AM

I don’t know if you noticed but at the end of the year he was soooo active regarding his charity, asking people to donate more and more but at the end, no christmas wishing, no happy new year, no thank you for the contribution.. nothing, not a whisper… so yeah, i feel you Starkerson but i still have hope, slim but hope nonetheless :) i know, i’m a fool

quote:

Ozweepay Johnson
Posted January 29, 2020 at 2:54 PM

Finish your loving book, you twat-pus asswipe.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Captain Hotbutt posted:

Rothfarts blog brings the heat.

It turns out that interest dwindles as time goes on.

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





Like Rothfuss could actually finish this shitpile in a satisfying fashion.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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The best thing he's written was the Bast short story.

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

Solice Kirsk posted:

The best thing he's written was the Bast short story.

Is that available in any of the books?

Uncle Lloyd
Sep 2, 2019
I think it was published in one of the GRRM-edited anthologies. The name Rogues rings a bell, although I don't remember ever reading it.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
I dispute this idea of a "best thing" written by Rothfuss.

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Sham bam bamina! posted:

I dispute this idea of a "best thing" written by Rothfuss.

The least bad thing?

MartingaleJack
Aug 26, 2004

I'll split you open and I don't even like coconuts.
My favorite Rothfuss thing is the author's intro to Slow Regard of Silent Things. It needs to be chiseled into stone. Look upon the cringe, ye mighty, and despair.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Sham bam bamina! posted:

I dispute this idea of a "best thing" written by Rothfuss.

It was a bad thing in three parts.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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BananaNutkins posted:

My favorite Rothfuss thing is the author's intro to Slow Regard of Silent Things. It needs to be chiseled into stone. Look upon the cringe, ye mighty, and despair.

Never read it, but that's where he basically says "if you don't like this then you're a simpleton who can't appreciate what I'm doing" right?

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Solice Kirsk posted:

Never read it, but that's where he basically says "if you don't like this then you're a simpleton who can't appreciate what I'm doing" right?

Pretty much.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
God that's like when some shithead film director gets mad that critics dunked all over their movie and audiences also didn't respond well to it. It's clearly the fault of the critics and everyone else was just too stupid to appreciate it. It couldn't possibly be because you cobbled together incomprehensible trash.

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
the only rothfuss thing worth reading is the original character do not steal tom bombadil porn

Captain Hotbutt
Aug 18, 2014

Patrick Rothfuss Reviewing Doors of Stone on Goodreads in 2012 posted:


While it's nice to see folks out there giving this book five stars, and in some cases even reviewing it, I'll admit that I'm kinda puzzled.

After thinking it over for a while, I've realized there's only one explanation for this:

Time travelers love my books.

This is strangely reassuring, as it lets me know that, eventually, I do finish my revisions, and the book turns out good enough so that I still have a following out there in the big ball of wibbly-wobbly.... timey-wimey.... stuff that I like to think of as the future.

I would also like to say, future readers, that I appreciate your taking time to read and review my books. It's really flattering knowing that even with time-travel technology at your disposal, you'd rather read my stuff and mention it here on goodreads, rather than, say, hunt dinosaurs, get drunk with da Vinci, or pants Hitler.

Secondly, I'd like to say if you're The Doctor, and you're reading this, I would make an excellent traveling companion. I know you normally tend to hang out with pretty young women and robot dogs. And honestly? I respect that.

Still, I bring certain things to the table. Humor, witty banter, and a beard that will allow me to blend in seamlessly with any pre-industrial Germanic culture. I'm also an excellent kisser and play a mean game of Settlers of Catan.

Just throwing it out there.

Lastly, if any of you happen to have a digital copy of the book you'd like to e-mail me, I'd really appreciate it. I'd love to see the five-star version of the book, because right now, the one I'm toiling away at is about a three an a half-in my opinion. It would save me a lot of work if I could just skip to the end and publish it.

Sincerely yours,

pat

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

Captain Hotbutt posted:

stuff that's gonna make me vomit

i'm gonna vomit

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

I think I hate him so so much.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
Rothfuss really embraces that dumb twee aesthetic doesn't he

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice
That couldn't be more masturbatory if he posted a video of himself jerking off.

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

i'm finally listening to that writing excuses episode because the phantom call was too much and he sure keeps mentioning things he thinks he's very good at

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

"this has been a fantastic episode on revision. we have shown you an excellent example of something that needs to be revised and an excellent example of what you sound like when you try to avoid revising it because you're too up your own rear end"

Red Alert 2 Yuris Revenge
May 8, 2006

"My brain is amazing! It's full of wrinkles, and... Uh... Wait... What am I trying to say?"
let's dig into the fact that Rothfuss believes himself to be an excellent kisser

deft with his lips as he is with a pen

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
alas

Doctor Faustine
Sep 2, 2018

Relax Or DIE posted:

let's dig into the fact that Rothfuss believes himself to be an excellent kisser

I find this wildly difficult to believe, what with that scraggly-rear end beard of his.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Patware posted:

"this has been a fantastic episode on revision. we have shown you an excellent example of something that needs to be revised and an excellent example of what you sound like when you try to avoid revising it because you're too up your own rear end"

lol at Pat being good at revision. There's no way anyone would consider him good at revision after Wise Man's Fear where he just loving drops his original short story introducing Kvothe, which therefore has none of the framing gimmick that WMF has everywhere else and in fact is written in third person instead of first person and acts like Kvothe is some Mysterious Cool Dude and not the person whose head we have been in for a massive book and three-fourths by now.

He literally did zero revisions and I'm guessing threw it in to pad the word count.

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

in the podcast he mentions one of his techniques is to break a chapter into scenes (no poo poo?) and then break a scene into french scenes (wow it's almost like you're writing!) and then figure out the actual purpose of the scenes (at this stage in the game?) to make sure he's not being too useless for too long

and he mentions having to cut something down because he wrote ten scenes in a row with their only purpose being

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"Shows that Kvothe is smart and cool."

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

Patware posted:

in the podcast he mentions one of his techniques is to break a chapter into scenes (no poo poo?) and then break a scene into french scenes (wow it's almost like you're writing!) and then figure out the actual purpose of the scenes (at this stage in the game?) to make sure he's not being too useless for too long

and he mentions having to cut something down because he wrote ten scenes in a row with their only purpose being

quote

"Shows that Kvothe is smart and cool."

my god it's full of stars

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

also pat rothfuss slowly explaining what french scenes were was extremely writing_excuses.wav

Red Alert 2 Yuris Revenge
May 8, 2006

"My brain is amazing! It's full of wrinkles, and... Uh... Wait... What am I trying to say?"

Doctor Faustine posted:

I find this wildly difficult to believe, what with that scraggly-rear end beard of his.

I imagine nothing enhances an expert kiss like a steady rain of the crumbs of meals past onto your bosom

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

Please

"Love confetti"

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Relax Or DIE posted:

I imagine nothing enhances an expert kiss like a steady rain of the crumbs of meals past onto your bosom

Not just food crumbs, but the man has prolific beard dandruff at both of the cons I've seen him at. I'm self conscious of it myself but it was a goddamned snowdrift on his t-shirt. Which was, of course, black with white text.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
I don't see the problem. A starfield would complement JOSS WHEDON IS MY MASTER NOW nicely.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Patware posted:

in the podcast he mentions one of his techniques is to break a chapter into scenes (no poo poo?) and then break a scene into french scenes (wow it's almost like you're writing!) and then figure out the actual purpose of the scenes (at this stage in the game?) to make sure he's not being too useless for too long

and he mentions having to cut something down because he wrote ten scenes in a row with their only purpose being

quote

"Shows that Kvothe is smart and cool."

But... that's literally the entire book.

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
what is a french scene

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
if it's like a french kiss, i don't want it

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

hallelujah posted:

what is a french scene

A French scene is denoted by a character either entering or leaving mid-scene. Like say five people are in the room, one person leaves, that scene now contains two French scenes. If a pair of people then walk in some time later, you have three French scenes.

Basically it's dividing scenes by the actual people on-scene than like changing time or place. I don't know the etymology of calling it a French scene and I've never met anyone who used the term in anything other than insider discussion about writing that wasn't really obnoxious.

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Patware posted:

A French scene is denoted by a character either entering or leaving mid-scene. Like say five people are in the room, one person leaves, that scene now contains two French scenes. If a pair of people then walk in some time later, you have three French scenes.

Basically it's dividing scenes by the actual people on-scene than like changing time or place. I don't know the etymology of calling it a French scene and I've never met anyone who used the term in anything other than insider discussion about writing that wasn't really obnoxious.
lmao thank you, that sounds like such a typical thing for rothfuss to waste hundreds of hours of his life upon

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Patware
Jan 3, 2005

I don't have anything published (mostly because I don't think I'm good enough) but I've been writing mostly in collaborative workshops since like 2001 - the French scene concept is a pretty important one to learn early on but someone as good as Rothfuss says he is should no longer have to sit back and break his poo poo apart into French scenes to see if he has to change things - he should already be way past the point where he has to figure out why characters are entering and exiting scenes, that kind of thing should just be muscle memory.

Of course, that's if Rothfuss were as good as he thinks he is. He's definitely still at the point (and will likely never evolve past) having to fine-tooth comb everything he's done and strip down useless fat because he's not writing to a narrative, he's writing to pure wish fulfillment power fantasy. Breaking through that barrier is one of the most important things to get through. The story is far more important than any one character, but to Rothfuss, Kvothe is the story, so his world is stale and dead unless Kvothe is in the area reacting to it. Nothing else is alive.

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